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Advice on Shadow, Pls
Marina wrote:
Yowie wrote: She would have had to leave the kitchen, and walk the length of the house, going past the dining room, lounge room, two other bedrooms, the bathroom, toilet and laundry (where the cat boxes are) and running the gamut of the other two cats (which she doesn't like) and then get into Cary's bedroom and take a dump on his bed rather than somewhere more discreet like *under* it, and then return to the kitchen again. This makes me wonder if it even *was* Shadow that did it. What if it was Pickle or Suki who got an attack of 'the runs' while ob Cary's bed, and you just assumed it was Shadow because she's the one who has been going in inappriopriate places? The smell, oddly enough. Her poop smells different to the other two. It was definatley Shadow poop. Yowie |
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Advice on Shadow, Pls
As far as cats being vindictive goes, usually they make it obvious if that's really what they intend. When Nox ate the cactus, for example, she waited until we came home from our trip before brazenly jumping up onto the entertainment centre and eating it right in front of us, glaring at us the whole while to make it clear she was doing it expressly to **** us off. The phantom piddling, though, one time DP caught her peeing and picked her up to make her stop, yelling--and she just kept on going, like she wasn't doing anything wrong, looking all confused. She was just bloody stubborn at ignoring the tinfoil, the sticky tape, the food, everything we put to stop her peeing there. It was like she believed with a religious fervor that that spot was a toilet. If Shadow is repeatedly aggressive towards Cary, then I could see the pooping being an act of vindictiveness/disfavor. If not, then it may have been an accident and unless you catch her in the act, she deserves the benefit of the doubt. --Fil The smell, oddly enough. Her poop smells different to the other two. It was definatley Shadow poop. |
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Advice on Shadow, Pls
Enfilade wrote:
As far as cats being vindictive goes, usually they make it obvious if that's really what they intend. When Nox ate the cactus, for example, she waited until we came home from our trip before brazenly jumping up onto the entertainment centre and eating it right in front of us, glaring at us the whole while to make it clear she was doing it expressly to **** us off. The phantom piddling, though, one time DP caught her peeing and picked her up to make her stop, yelling--and she just kept on going, like she wasn't doing anything wrong, looking all confused. She was just bloody stubborn at ignoring the tinfoil, the sticky tape, the food, everything we put to stop her peeing there. It was like she believed with a religious fervor that that spot was a toilet. If Shadow is repeatedly aggressive towards Cary, then I could see the pooping being an act of vindictiveness/disfavor. If not, then it may have been an accident and unless you catch her in the act, she deserves the benefit of the doubt. Either way, we needed to change something to stop her pooping innapropriate (the kitchen sink is better than a bed, but still far from ideal) So, now, freshly installed in the 'nook' in the kitchen (where the dishwasher should be, if we had a working dishwasher) there is a top-of-the-line, really big, covered litterbox, with door flap, filled not with the cheap clay or gravelly silica stuff that Pickle & Suki (and Shmogg & IBKFergus) all liked, but with the most expensive soft clumping litter that I could find. With the top off, I put her in there twice, she sniffed around and hopped out without doing anything (maybe she doesn't like an audience) and I shooed Pickle away from it several times over the course of the evening. Will have to wait until I get home to see a) if its been used and b) if its been used by Shadow. I hope this in itself with solve the major problem with Shadow - failing that I guess there's drugs but they're only an option if they aren't pricey. Our budget is stretched pretty taught right about now, with Joel being put on a cocktail of pharmceuticals, there isn't much left in the way of full-cost drugs left in it. (Note that even though our phrameceuticals are subsidised - if they're on the list - its still $30 a script, and if you need three scripts a fortnight thats still $90 to pay each fortnight. Joel's medical bills have taken up the small amount of 'fat' that we had in our budget) Still looking for a suitable home from her. She's a lovebug and would make someone who wants lots of lovebug company very happy. Yowie |
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Advice on Shadow, Pls
On Jun 17, 11:08*pm, "Yowie"
wrote: Granby wrote: Cats are wonderful but, the Yowlet comes first. *Mess up his safety at night, from his point of view and you all pay. FWIW I would let him be an indoor/outdoor cat. *It is clearly what he wants and a patient husband is a rare thing so don't fool with that. Other cats around survive that way so there must be safety for them. I know it won't be easy but I can't imagine the horror of Cary being in that kind of a mess. *Poor baby. Well, its not the first time he's woken up covered in poo, but it is the first time he's been covered in poo that doesn't belong to him. I'm wavering between Shadow becoming and indoor/outdoor cat and just plain rehoming her. If I can control her 'outdoor' time to early mornings and late afternoons, then the UV risk would be lower - the neighbourhood is boring suburbia and I think cats pose more of a danger to the wildlife and environement than the risk the environment poses to the cat (other than the UV risk, the only cars we get are the ones that live in our street, we are not a 'through' road. There are dogs in the area, but dogs can't jump onto the top of 5' and 6' fences like cats). Of course, that does raise the problem of letting her out and keeping Pickle in (Suki has no interest in the place without a ceiling at all) but I"m sure we can deal with that one. An enclosure sounds great, but that will take time to build and neither of us are handy people. If indoor/outdoor is a solution, then perhaps an enclosure for all the cats would eventuate in the future. However, its not a short term solution. Rehoming her would, at this point, be the kinder option I think. The home needs to be a special home, though, because if the crapping all over the place is related more to not being allowed outside than the situation of a more dominant cat in the hosue plus child, she'll continue to crap all over the place wherever she is, as we're all told that white cats should not be allowed outside at all. Whoever they may be, they'll have to be willing to forgive a phantom crapper. They'll also have to be able to cope with her angry outbursts, because she gets pretty darn violent when she's peeved, and goes into full street-fighting mode (including caterwailing) very quickly. She does *not* back down or run way (and I wish she would, because then she & Pickle wouldn't have to fight), but does have the good sense to growl a warning first. That beign said, though, she is a total love bug when she's in a good mood and thinks being brushed is awesome (she needs to be brushed). I suspect she'd like to have slaves that are home all day and have nothing better to do than dote on their one and only fluffy white cat. This home will be hard to find. The only other drawback to rehoming will be explaining where Shadow has gone to Cary. Cary loves all his critters very much, even if he doesn't play with Shadow he talks to her alot and does alot of roleplaying with toys with all the critters featured. Gonna have to talk to the family tonight and decide, I guess. Yowie Yowie, forgive me this suggestion is redundant, I haven't read every post in this thread but....wanted to pass this info. along to you. I have had two cats who went #2 out of the box. Both were relatively new to the household, and both were timid. Even the best "introduction" plans don't always completely prevent a scrap or two between cats in a multi-cat household. Anyway. Biskit started going in the bathtub of the guest bath, which we never use, so it's really not such a big issue. Here's the (my) theory. When she's toileting, she is at her most vulnerable. She does not feel safe from Boots on the litterbox. Either that, or Boots has her so intimidated that she won't "go" where the other cats' scent is. She *still* does this. Since it's just DH & Me here, no problem. If it were my bed, big problem. I think allowing her outdoors might help, but only in the theory that she goes outside to poop every time. If you do re-home her, I would guess that if there are other cats in THAT household, the same behavior is going to reoccur. Good luck with whatever you decide. Sherry |
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Advice on Shadow, Pls
Yowie wrote:
Shadow has been here a while now, and only once has she used a litterbox, and that was forNo.1s. She won't go in any box either of the other cats use, and Pickle thinks its his Bast given right to 'christen' every clean box. I thought she'd taken to doing her business in the small side of the kitchen sink. gross, yes, but dealable with. But no. Last night we were awoken by wails of terror and horror from Cary. He had woken up to discover he was smothered in cat poo. She had gone in his bed and slyly covered the mess (a particularly slurpy one) she'd made with his blanket. snip Advice on what do, and purrs that she'll mellow and use the boxes provided wouldn't go astray either. Yowie Lots and lots of purrs, Polonca and Soncek |
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