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Hill's Feline S/D, Hill's Feline CD-S
This food was prescribed for my cat who just had a urinary blockage
removed. Does anyone know if my other cat (who is in perfect health) will develop problems if he also starts to eat the Hill's S/D and Hill's CD-S food as well ? Thanks. |
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From: (Albert Pike) Date: 10/18/03 10:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: This food was prescribed for my cat who just had a urinary blockage removed. Does anyone know if my other cat (who is in perfect health) will develop problems if he also starts to eat the Hill's S/D and Hill's CD-S food as well ? DO NOT feed a healthy cat s/d. s/d will acidify the urine Ph and you shouldn't risk your healthy cat developing a problem when one didn't exist previously. Keep your healthy cat on a wellness food and your "sick" cat on the theraputic diet prescribed. |
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Did the vet send the stone or crystal to a lab to know what it was?
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Did the vet send the stone or crystal to a lab to know what it was?
It was crystals .I believe it was a struvite - hence the struvite- dissolution diet ? I agree that it doesn't seem right to give a healthy cat S/D. Neither seems to fancy the dry S/D that is left out, anyway. The only thing the vet said was that it was OK for the healthy cat to eat S/D as long as he did not have heart or kidney problems (which he doesn't). |
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This very is interesting. Science Diet´s main marketing strategy is to
scare people about the level of phosphorus in other foods because the cat may be in the early stages of kidney disease and this "excess phosphorus," according to them, will add to kidney damage. It's not a marketing strategy, it's science and research--something you apparently don't know anything about. So how come is it ok to feed S/D if S/D should not be fed to a cat with kidney problems? s/d should NOT be fed to healthy cats that don't have any urinary problems. Period. Don't go trying to put words in people's mouths.... |
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"Liz" wrote in message om... (Albert Pike) wrote in message . com... Did the vet send the stone or crystal to a lab to know what it was? It was crystals .I believe it was a struvite - hence the struvite- dissolution diet ? I agree that it doesn't seem right to give a healthy cat S/D. Neither seems to fancy the dry S/D that is left out, anyway. The only thing the vet said was that it was OK for the healthy cat to eat S/D as long as he did not have heart or kidney problems (which he doesn't). This very is interesting. Science Diet´s main marketing strategy is to scare people Not too hypocritical are you? Since scare tactics, rumors and innuendoes are your specialty.... about the level of phosphorus in other foods because the cat may be in the early stages of kidney disease ...and rightly so. What is the benefit of excess phosphorus, huh. "Wiz Liz? and this "excess phosphorus," according to them, will add to kidney damage. So how come is it ok to feed S/D if S/D should not be fed to a cat with kidney problems? What if the cat *is* in the early stages of kidney disease? How contradictory! Its not contradictory, "Wiz Liz"... Do you understand the concept of "risk vs benefit"? s/d is formulated to dissolve *existing* struvite crystals and uroliths that can obstruct the urethra resulting in acute renal failure and *death* in a very short time... which is tad more serious and immediate than early stage chronic renal failure. I think you are better off getting him on a canned diet of whatever brand you feel is best for him than any dry food. This is *another* example of your *dangerous* and *deadly* advice! Did you not read: "This food was prescribed for my cat who just had a urinary blockage"? You **should not**, nor are you qualified to advise a person to take his cat off of a prescription diet - *especially* a cat that just had a urethral obstruction removed and probably still has crystals! I seriously hope Albert *ignores* your *dangerous* and *deadly* advice. An acidified dry diet may result in calcium oxalate stones down the road ...and a struvite urethral obstruction can kill the cat *now* - and almost did. s/d is a *short-term* therapy -- You should at least know something about the food you're bad-mouthing.... |
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s/d is formulated to dissolve *existing* struvite crystals and uroliths
that can obstruct the urethra resulting in acute renal failure and *death* in a very short time... which is tad more serious and immediate than early stage chronic renal failure. In renal failure, every nephron should be treasured. Every nephron lost will never be replaced. "This food was prescribed for my cat who just had a urinary blockage"? You **should not**, nor are you qualified to advise a person to take his cat off of a prescription diet - *especially* a cat that just had a urethral obstruction removed and probably still has crystals! Oh, and you have never seen veterinary mistakes? I´ve seen them way too often, even in this group. It´s not because a person has a diploma in whatever field that they know what they are doing. If doctors kill 250 thousand people every year only in the USA because of incompetence, I don´t even want to think about the numbers regarding animals. I seriously hope Albert *ignores* your *dangerous* and *deadly* advice. Really? I often see you give the exact same advice about more water in the diet (feed canned) to avoid uroliths. Besides, I know for a fact that canned diet fixed my cats´problem as it has fixed other cats here. s/d is a *short-term* therapy -- You should at least know something about the food you're bad-mouthing.... I know that. But in that one or two month short term use, how many nephrons could be lost huh? Before you get me wrong, this is about hypocrisy and not about actual loss of nephrons. You should go study veterinary medicine and get some more background. What´s keeping you from it? |
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s/d is formulated to dissolve *existing* struvite crystals and uroliths
that can obstruct the urethra resulting in acute renal failure and *death* in a very short time... which is tad more serious and immediate than early stage chronic renal failure. In renal failure, every nephron should be treasured. Every nephron lost will never be replaced. "This food was prescribed for my cat who just had a urinary blockage"? You **should not**, nor are you qualified to advise a person to take his cat off of a prescription diet - *especially* a cat that just had a urethral obstruction removed and probably still has crystals! Oh, and you have never seen veterinary mistakes? I´ve seen them way too often, even in this group. It´s not because a person has a diploma in whatever field that they know what they are doing. If doctors kill 250 thousand people every year only in the USA because of incompetence, I don´t even want to think about the numbers regarding animals. I seriously hope Albert *ignores* your *dangerous* and *deadly* advice. Really? I often see you give the exact same advice about more water in the diet (feed canned) to avoid uroliths. Besides, I know for a fact that canned diet fixed my cats´problem as it has fixed other cats here. s/d is a *short-term* therapy -- You should at least know something about the food you're bad-mouthing.... I know that. But in that one or two month short term use, how many nephrons could be lost huh? Before you get me wrong, this is about hypocrisy and not about actual loss of nephrons. You should go study veterinary medicine and get some more background. What´s keeping you from it? |
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This very is interesting. Science Diet´s main marketing strategy is to
scare people about the level of phosphorus in other foods because the cat may be in the early stages of kidney disease and this "excess phosphorus," according to them, will add to kidney damage. It's not a marketing strategy, it's science and research--something you apparently don't know anything about. So how come is it ok to feed S/D if S/D should not be fed to a cat with kidney problems? s/d should NOT be fed to healthy cats that don't have any urinary problems. Period. Don't go trying to put words in people's mouths.... |
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