Hill's Feline S/D, Hill's Feline CD-S

olitter (PawsForThought) wrote in message ...

Again, you are lying. I am not going to waste my time calling up a company
that you keep bashing and that you consistently lie about. Listening to a
whack job like yourself is a complete waste of time.

Nobody has to call anybody to make that determination. Just run a
search for any publications by any of their nutritionists and
veterinarians. That ought to be simple enough anybody can do it. Ooops
that won't work will it, they don't have any veterinarians or
nutritionists that have ever published anything - never mind.

olitter (PawsForThought) wrote in message ...

And AGAIN there are no studies or data to support that carbophobic
remark whatsoever,

Why do you call my remarks carbophobic?

phobic = one who has an unwarranted and unjustified fear of some thing
carb = carbohydrate

carbophobic = one who has an unsubstantiated and unjustified fear of
carbohydrates.

In your case one who blames carbohydrates for every ill known to
mankind, without any published data to support it, without anything
except hypothesis and whom ignores any and all published peer reviewed
literature that is in opposition to fringe lunatic theories.

olitter (PawsForThought) wrote in message ...

And AGAIN there are no studies or data to support that carbophobic
remark whatsoever,

Why do you call my remarks carbophobic?

phobic = one who has an unwarranted and unjustified fear of some thing
carb = carbohydrate

carbophobic = one who has an unsubstantiated and unjustified fear of
carbohydrates.

In your case one who blames carbohydrates for every ill known to
mankind, without any published data to support it, without anything
except hypothesis and whom ignores any and all published peer reviewed
literature that is in opposition to fringe lunatic theories.

"Karen M." wrote in message ...
Steve Crane wrote:

By the way Steve, Wellness actually *adds* calcium to their food,
*that's* where it comes from.

I see, they purposefully add in additional calcium to make sure their
foods exceed maximum levels of calcium for an adult animal - hey that
sounds like an excellent idea.

Give me a break - if you think for one second the calcium carbonate
added in as the ~10th ingredient in the list accounts for the
excessive calcium you're more easy to deceive that I would have
imagined. You will note Science Diet adds in calcium carbonate at
nearly the same point in the ingredient list and yet has HALF the
calcium as found in Wellnees. Better go back to drawing board and
think again.

"Karen M." wrote in message ...
Steve Crane wrote:

By the way Steve, Wellness actually *adds* calcium to their food,
*that's* where it comes from.

I see, they purposefully add in additional calcium to make sure their
foods exceed maximum levels of calcium for an adult animal - hey that
sounds like an excellent idea.

Give me a break - if you think for one second the calcium carbonate
added in as the ~10th ingredient in the list accounts for the
excessive calcium you're more easy to deceive that I would have
imagined. You will note Science Diet adds in calcium carbonate at
nearly the same point in the ingredient list and yet has HALF the
calcium as found in Wellnees. Better go back to drawing board and
think again.

From: (Steve Crane)

(PawsForThought) wrote in message
...

And AGAIN there are no studies or data to support that carbophobic
remark whatsoever,

Why do you call my remarks carbophobic?

phobic = one who has an unwarranted and unjustified fear of some thing
carb = carbohydrate

carbophobic = one who has an unsubstantiated and unjustified fear of
carbohydrates.

In your case one who blames carbohydrates for every ill known to
mankind, without any published data to support it, without anything
except hypothesis and whom ignores any and all published peer reviewed
literature that is in opposition to fringe lunatic theories.


I have never blamed all the ills on carbs. You're really paranoid. I do
believe a carnivore does much better on a low carb diet. But I really do
understand your manic need to defend a high carb diet since corn is such a
major ingredient in Hill's Science Diet, the company you work for.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: (Steve Crane)

(PawsForThought) wrote in message
...

And AGAIN there are no studies or data to support that carbophobic
remark whatsoever,

Why do you call my remarks carbophobic?

phobic = one who has an unwarranted and unjustified fear of some thing
carb = carbohydrate

carbophobic = one who has an unsubstantiated and unjustified fear of
carbohydrates.

In your case one who blames carbohydrates for every ill known to
mankind, without any published data to support it, without anything
except hypothesis and whom ignores any and all published peer reviewed
literature that is in opposition to fringe lunatic theories.


I have never blamed all the ills on carbs. You're really paranoid. I do
believe a carnivore does much better on a low carb diet. But I really do
understand your manic need to defend a high carb diet since corn is such a
major ingredient in Hill's Science Diet, the company you work for.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

Got a source for that Steve? Proof? References? Didn't think so.

Source for calcium in chicken USDA "Food calculator"
Source for calcium in meat meals for pet foods - Pet Food Industry,
vendor specification sheets on file.
Source for Wellness calcium levels - emails on file.

What else would you like a source for?

Got a source for that Steve? Proof? References? Didn't think so.

Source for calcium in chicken USDA "Food calculator"
Source for calcium in meat meals for pet foods - Pet Food Industry,
vendor specification sheets on file.
Source for Wellness calcium levels - emails on file.

What else would you like a source for?

Got a source for that Steve? Proof? References? Didn't think so.

Forgot one
Source for description of chicken by product meal AAFCO 2003 manual