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That's good your cat stays away from human food...it's really not that healthy for them..Now if I can only get my cats to think that way :-) |
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 00:10:36 GMT, Diane
wrote: In article . com, "Steve Crane" wrote: Pork isn't all that common becasue it isn't all that commonly eaten by humans. Think about how often you eat beef or chicken or turkey and how seldom you eat pork. As much as I like a good pork roast, it been months and months since we had one in this house. R What about ham? Same critter. Read the list of ingredients on a ham package sometime. On second thought, if you like ham, you might not want to read the ingredients list. -- T.E.D. ) |
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Scary thought is what we eat is worse than what they eat ours just looks
better |
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"Steve Crane" wrote in message ups.com... Phil P. wrote: Cost (expensive compared to most pet food protein sources) and probably religious concerns (e.g., Judaism, Islam) and possibly exaggerated fear of trichinosis (only if eaten raw or not cooked thoroughly). It's not that pork is more or less expensive than other meat meals. The range in price for meat meals is waaaaay more variable based on the ash content than on the species from which it is derived. I wasn't referring to pork meal-- with the water and fat removed. I was referring pork meat. Actually, the ash content of clean pork meat products is very low-- For example, the protein to ash ratio for pork loin is actually quite high-- about 20:1 (28.57:1.4). The higher the protein to ash ratio the more digestible the food. The phosphorus content is also excellent- about 89 mg/100 kcals. http://www.maxshouse.com/Clinical_Nu...,CKD,BRSD1.jpg Pork isn't all that common becasue it isn't all that commonly eaten by humans. That's just about what I said in my previous post. "For whatever reason (religion, superstition, misinformation, myth) pork just isn't as popular as beef, turkey, chicken, and the other flavors. Sales relate directly to the amount of shelf space the products occupy- pork-based foods would take up shelf space that could be used for a more popular food." |
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Phil P. wrote: "Steve Crane" wrote in message ups.com... It's not that pork is more or less expensive than other meat meals. The range in price for meat meals is waaaaay more variable based on the ash content than on the species from which it is derived. I wasn't referring to pork meal-- with the water and fat removed. I was referring pork meat. I probably didn't make myself clear. The cost difference between a low ash meal/meat (beef, pork, chicken, turkey, lamb etc) can be +25% more expensive than the same meal/meat in a high ash content version. That difference in cost is greater than the difference in cost between two different specie meat/meals. The specie of meat/meal does not affect the cost as much as the ash content. |
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Steve Crane wrote: Pork isn't all that common becasue it isn't all that commonly eaten by humans. Think about how often you eat beef or chicken or turkey and how seldom you eat pork. As much as I like a good pork roast, it been months and months since we had one in this house. Reminds me to talk to the boss (my wife) about that. I think it depends upon which part of the U.S. (or wherever else in the world) you live. ...And price, of course. When I was growing up in Minnesota, we had pork almost as often as beef, chicken less often, and turkey was reserved for holidays. (Mostly because, when I was young, they were only available whole, and the average family had trouble making away with a twenty-pound turkey before the meat spoiled, even with electric refrigerators - which not everyone had.) In more recent years, I've found myself eating chicken much more often, because it was cheaper than beef or pork, and WAY cheaper than lamb (mutton might be less expensive, but it's not often available in the U.S.). |
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Ted Davis wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 00:10:36 GMT, Diane wrote: In article . com, "Steve Crane" wrote: Pork isn't all that common becasue it isn't all that commonly eaten by humans. Think about how often you eat beef or chicken or turkey and how seldom you eat pork. As much as I like a good pork roast, it been months and months since we had one in this house. R What about ham? Same critter. Read the list of ingredients on a ham package sometime. On second thought, if you like ham, you might not want to read the ingredients list. You're assuming he buys processed ham - as do most of us, nowadays. The genuine article (which must usually be boiled before roasting) takes much longer to prepare, and is not so readily available, but a genuinely "cured" ham contains no additive but salt (and smoke, if you count the curing process). |
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"Steve Crane" wrote in message oups.com... Phil P. wrote: "Steve Crane" wrote in message ups.com... It's not that pork is more or less expensive than other meat meals. The range in price for meat meals is waaaaay more variable based on the ash content than on the species from which it is derived. I wasn't referring to pork meal-- with the water and fat removed. I was referring pork meat. I probably didn't make myself clear. The cost difference between a low ash meal/meat (beef, pork, chicken, turkey, lamb etc) can be +25% more expensive than the same meal/meat in a high ash content version. That difference in cost is greater than the difference in cost between two different specie meat/meals. The specie of meat/meal does not affect the cost as much as the ash content. That certainly explains why Porterhouse Steak is about twice the price per lb. of pork loin even though they have about the same ash content and protein to ash ratio. Thanks for clearing that up. http://www.maxshouse.com/Clinical_Nu...RTHS_STEAK.pdf http://www.maxshouse.com/Clinical_Nu...,CKD,BRSD1.jpg |
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 11:43:28 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote: Ted Davis wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 00:10:36 GMT, Diane wrote: In article . com, "Steve Crane" wrote: Pork isn't all that common becasue it isn't all that commonly eaten by humans. Think about how often you eat beef or chicken or turkey and how seldom you eat pork. As much as I like a good pork roast, it been months and months since we had one in this house. R What about ham? Same critter. Read the list of ingredients on a ham package sometime. On second thought, if you like ham, you might not want to read the ingredients list. You're assuming he buys processed ham - as do most of us, nowadays. The genuine article (which must usually be boiled before roasting) takes much longer to prepare, and is not so readily available, but a genuinely "cured" ham contains no additive but salt (and smoke, if you count the curing process). I am well aware of real hams - they were still readily obtainable when I was growing up half a century ago. Salt, pepper, and carcinogenic smoke ... some also used sugar and I have heard the maple something was used in some places. They taste good when properly prepared, but are hardly safer than the synthetic modern ones that I was assuming most readers would encounter. The "country" ham I can readily obtain locally is from California (half a continent away) and is "cured with salt, brown sugar, sodium nitrate, black pepper, sodium nitrite"; and it's labeled to imply, but not say, that it is hickory smoked. I give the most ham fanatic of my cats only tiny tastes. Then there is bacon. -- T.E.D. ) |
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Ajanta wrote:
Quite clearly, cat food seems to be derived not from what cats would eat but from what humans eat: beef, chicken, turkey, tuna, etc. However, I also notice a conspicuous absence of one very popular and common human staple from cat foods: pork. Why is that? Can cats not eat pork? Is it harmful to them? Cats can only eat pork if they can catch it... http://www.bigtex.com/newsroom/stori...acingpigs.html I'm rooting for Porky. |
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