Do It Yourself Vet Practices for Strays.

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Phil P. wrote:
"-L." wrote in message
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Front-right shoulder - FVRCP (subQ)
Right-rear leg - rabies (IM)
Front-left shoulder FeLV (subQ)


Please don't encourage people- especially that idiot t

I don't consider Barry an idiot.


I'd like to have you on my jury if I'm ever on trial.



I like Barry, despite his goofiness
and mistakes (Yes, even Ruprecht).


That wasn't as 'mistake'. That was a result of his mentality. Some people
just aren't suited to have a cat's life entrusted to them-- he's one of
them.


A lot of what he posts is just
banter.

He's a blathering idiot that's sometimes dangerous. Did you forget the
"Shelters" thread? Also, lot of good information in a thread gets buried
by his stupid nonsense. He's like the class clown that causes trouble for
everyone.



o vaccinate cats
himself- he'll probably hit a nerve and paralyze the poor cat. The
thought
of him sticking a needle in a cat- or even being near s cat- scares the
hell out me.

Any cat can develop an adverse effect- or even full blown anaphylactic
shock-
from *any* vaccine.

Full-blown anaphylaxis from vaccines is rare, though.


Yes, I know. But reactions to vaccines aren't.



So, unless a person has been trained in treating
adverse reactions and anaphylaxis they should not be administering
vaccines.

A stray or feral vaccinated is better than not, IMO.


Not by him. A stray or feral is better off left alone than 'helped' by him.
If he wants to help- he should donate money to a feral group.


You have to weigh
the pros and cons of doing it vs. not doing it - and IMO that's a
personal choice. I just wanted him to know that if he chose to do
so, he had to know what he was doing because he could cause damage.


I don't think he's competent to ever administer vaccines- regardless of how
much you teach him.



Btw, FeLV should be administered in the left *rear leg* as distally as
possible- not in the shoulder.

(See AAFP Vaccination Guidlines)
http://www.maxshouse.com/aafp_vaccin...recommenda.htm

Correct - I remembered it wrong. Haven't done vaccines for awhile.
Prolly should have double checked before I posted that. Sorry.


Its easy if you remember: R for Rabies and Right; L for Leukemia and Left.

Phil

Phil P. wrote:

I don't consider Barry an idiot.


I'd like to have you on my jury if I'm ever on trial.

It'll never happen. I hate cops and tell them so during voire dire, so
that I get thrown off.




I like Barry, despite his goofiness
and mistakes (Yes, even Ruprecht).


That wasn't as 'mistake'. That was a result of his mentality. Some people
just aren't suited to have a cat's life entrusted to them-- he's one of
them.

Whatever. I don't hold every single person up to my own standards of
care. A lot of people have outdoor cats in not the best situations -
that's life, sucky or not. Cats die, animals die, people die, life
goes on. I don't lose sleep. I do what I can to help the ones I can.
I feel like Barry probably felt terrible about Ruprect and beating the
**** out of him over it wouldn't serve any purpose. I just hope he
learned something from it, and will consider doing something positive
for another cat in Ruprect's memory.



A lot of what he posts is just
banter.

He's a blathering idiot that's sometimes dangerous. Did you forget the
"Shelters" thread?

Don't remember it. I don't read a lot of what is posted.


Also, lot of good information in a thread gets buried
by his stupid nonsense. He's like the class clown that causes trouble for
everyone.

A lot of good info gets buried by a lot of things. Flame wars, ****ing
wars, ego battles, Ot discussion, whatever. None of this is new to
this ng, nor any other ng I read. Barry is at least harmless - I doubt
he will be calling the cops on anyone, any time soon, over some
flamewar.

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Not by him. A stray or feral is better off left alone than 'helped' by him.
If he wants to help- he should donate money to a feral group.

I can't make that assessment. For all I know he's diabetic and injects
himself daily so is comfortable with doing injections....or cares for a
sick relative, or shoots up daily, or is a vet tech in disguise, or
whatever. All I wanted him to know is that it isn't just a matter of
injecting the cat where ever you want.


You have to weigh
the pros and cons of doing it vs. not doing it - and IMO that's a
personal choice. I just wanted him to know that if he chose to do
so, he had to know what he was doing because he could cause damage.


I don't think he's competent to ever administer vaccines- regardless of how
much you teach him.

I wasn't "teaching" him - just offering input. I don't pretend to
"teach" anyone. Data is data - take it or leave it. Barry (or anyone
else for that matter) can make the assesment of whether or not I have
my head up my ass, as I do for everyone else who posts here. If he
decides to shoot up cats, there's not much anyone can do to stop him.


Its easy if you remember: R for Rabies and Right; L for Leukemia and Left.

I remembered it "(F)e(L)V = Front Left". I just remembered it wrong.
I was taught "(R)abies = Right Rear" so that's probably what threw me
off. Thanks for the link, BTW.

-L.

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Whatever.


Yeah, whatever. I guess I'm not as forgiving as you when it comes to cats.
I wasted enough time on him.




Its easy if you remember: R for Rabies and Right; L for Leukemia and
Left.

I remembered it "(F)e(L)V = Front Left". I just remembered it wrong.
I was taught "(R)abies = Right Rear" so that's probably what threw me
off. Thanks for the link, BTW.


Have you seen the new VET JET transdermal vaccination system from Merial?
No needle- forced air is used to deliver the vaccine. Uses less antigen
and no adjuvants, too.

P

Ah! you still sore about macs nuggets!

wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooo!

Seriously dude! Nuggets for cats is not doing them any favors

I don't have to tell you the real damage you are doing to them.


Phil P. wrote:
"-L." wrote in message
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Front-right shoulder - FVRCP (subQ)
Right-rear leg - rabies (IM)
Front-left shoulder FeLV (subQ)


Please don't encourage people- especially that idiot to vaccinate cats
himself- he'll probably hit a nerve and paralyze the poor cat. The thought
of him sticking a needle in a cat- or even being near s cat- scares the
hell out me.

Any cat can develop an adverse effect- or even full blown anaphylatic shock-
from *any* vaccine. So, unless a person has been trained in treating
adverse reactions and anaphylaxis they should not be administering
vaccines.

Btw, FeLV should be administered in the left *rear leg* as distally as
possible- not in the shoulder.

(See AAFP Vaccination Guidlines)
http://www.maxshouse.com/aafp_vaccin...recommenda.htm


Phil

Phil P. wrote:
"-L." wrote in message
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Whatever.


Yeah, whatever. I guess I'm not as forgiving as you when it comes to cats.
I wasted enough time on him.




Its easy if you remember: R for Rabies and Right; L for Leukemia and
Left.

I remembered it "(F)e(L)V = Front Left". I just remembered it wrong.
I was taught "(R)abies = Right Rear" so that's probably what threw me
off. Thanks for the link, BTW.


Have you seen the new VET JET transdermal vaccination system from Merial?
No needle- forced air is used to deliver the vaccine. Uses less antigen
and no adjuvants, too.

P

Well the nice lady from Peacemail pretty much spoke my mind.

Give it a rest Phil.

I thought the shelter question was right on! The shelter question also
created a beautiful platform to clear up misconceptions heh?

You was too busy VENTING to notice

-L. wrote:
Phil P. wrote:

I don't consider Barry an idiot.


I'd like to have you on my jury if I'm ever on trial.

It'll never happen. I hate cops and tell them so during voire dire, so
that I get thrown off.


WHO ARE YOU REALLY? I mean when nobodies looking.

How'd you wind up in a place like this! lol


Yes it was sad about my cat. On the bright side, we did have a
wonderful time together; when I rescued him, he was living outside,
eating Food Lion crunchy cat food. He had been abandoned in that
neighborhood. I had even talked with the people who witnessed Ruprecht
being abandoned (he was Sam then). A lady pulls up in a car and puts
the cat out and drives off. Poor cat!

The way I was raised was to not be insensitive towards someone, and
especially after they have lost something they loved, you just don't do
it.

My take on Phil is that he has some issues.

I see him as a difficult person to be around. To break it down without
all the how comes*, Phil has lowered opinion of himself. I'm not
slamming him, it's just what I see.

Here I am totally envogue on the issues, just trying to evoke an
intelligent conversation.

What I likes about Lyn, is that you don't pass judgement, you see
oppurtunity to sow seed. I care more about animals today because of
you. It's true.

In spite of the antics head on fire and what not...I see you know your
stuff when it comes to animals, but one cannot care about animals no
more than they care about people, sooo this says alot about you, I like
people who value human life. I can also spot a conterfiet, and see when
someone is masquerading behind something. coughphil, cough

He be alright! I think Phil is smart enough to get with the program

"whitershadeofpale" wrote in message
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The way I was raised was to not be insensitive towards someone, and
especially after they have lost something they loved, you just don't do
it.

My take on Phil is that he has some issues.


Yeah- blabbering idiots like you that are dangerous to cats.


I see him as a difficult person to be around.


Only the assholes think so - and I think they're right.


To break it down without
all the how comes*, Phil has lowered opinion of himself. I'm not
slamming him, it's just what I see.


Apparently, you don't see very well.



Here I am totally envogue on the issues,


You're clueless.



just trying to evoke an
intelligent conversation.


How do you plan to accomplish that feat?


one cannot care about animals no
more than they care about people,


Sure you can! Work in rescue for awhile- you'll see how easy it is.



I can also spot a conterfiet, and see when
someone is masquerading behind something.


Those black helicopters are scary as hell- aren't they, Barry?

"whitershadeofpale" wrote in message

Well the nice lady from Peacemail pretty much spoke my mind.


It looks like some has to because you can't do it very well.




The shelter question also
created a beautiful platform to clear up misconceptions heh?


Yeah- misconceptions that *you* created with your mindless blabber. Try
something new: think before you type.

WOULD YOU 2 TAKE A BREAK PLEASE

You both can agree to disagree you 2 both love cats you want what is best
you 2 can't stand each other We all know that Drop the name calling, the
flaming give it a rest you 2 Both of you needs to be put over my knee
and be given a spanking if you 2 keep it up just can't decide if you would
like it to much ;-)

But seriously you both post helpful information if you don't agree with the
post say so you not start flames
Both are acting like 5 year olds that the teacher needs to separate you both
and put you in the corner

CAN"T WE ALL BE FRIENDS :-)

Phil P. wrote:

Yeah- misconceptions that *you* created with your mindless blabber. Try
something new: think before you type.

dang, poor Phil, can't even pick a fight.

I'm going to post the nutrition guide on macnuggets, doing this will
nullify your little soapbox sessions

this is usenet anything you say can and will be used against you

brb

6 pc right?