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Human Litterboxes (was Cat Using toilet and toilet paper)
Joy wrote:
I like the toilets in Australia. They use high pressure to flush, so not so much water is needed. Also, most of them have two buttons - a half flush, which is sufficient most of the time, and a full flush, for heavy duty cases. I have that system in my present flat and in my previous one. Unfortunately, Caliban tends to step on the full-flush button, so he wastes a lot of water. :P -- Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. |
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Joy wrote:
We're better about that than we used to be. Women used to say they had to powder their nose when they needed to pee. My mother seemed to think the word "toilet" was a naughty word. I don't see any need to say one has to poop. That seems like TMI. Sure, we have to do it, and there's no reason to hide the fact. OTOH, there's no reason to advertise it either. Ideas about what is TMI shift and change over time and across cultures. I tend more to the reserved end, myself, and just say 'go to the bathroom' for all purposes, if I need to say anything at all. My father used to say 'spend a penny', and when I was a child, I didn't understand at all what he meant! I figure that mostly no one else really wants to know about the details of my digestive processes, any more than they want to to hear about the progress of all my little aches and pains when they ask 'How are you?', so I tend to say the minimum when I need to excuse myself from a group of people to use the bathroom. And that's an odd phrase when you think of it, although it's by far the most common one here. If I ask 'Excuse me, where's your bathroom?' I don't expect to strip down and bathe when I locate the room! I don't think 'toilet' is considered to be a naughty word, but it does tend to be used only when referring directly to the piece of equipment - "We had our toilet replaced last week with a water-saving model." "Our toilet backed up when the cats knocked a roll of toilet paper into it and flushed." -- Cheryl |
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Human Litterboxes (was Cat Using toilet and toilet paper)
On Sep 13, 12:53*am, "Joy" wrote:
*Also, most of them have two buttons - a half flush, which is sufficient most of the time, and a full flush, for heavy duty cases. They're now becoming standard in the UK- we have one Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs |
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Human Litterboxes (was Cat Using toilet and toilet paper)
wrote in message ... MatSav wrote: The USofA seem to use bowls with a higher water level in the pan than those in the UK. We have newer, "low-flow" toilets with much lower water levels. They're a lot more efficient in terms of conserving water. I used to have one in my apartment, but unfortunately, the plumbing is so bad here that the low-flow toilet just doesn't provide enough force to get everything down. So the landlord had to replace it with a water-wasting one. In much of Europe, there's a 'shelf' on the front inside edge of the bowl where business is deposited (for inspection?) before flushing Seriously, what is the purpose of that? I have never seen a shelf in a toilet, and I'm not sure I'd want to. For people (or an entire country) where people are careful/obsessive about keeping track of their health. Gotta check it out before you flush it. Jo |
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Human Litterboxes (was Cat Using toilet and toilet paper)
wrote in message ... MatSav wrote: Much of the [human] world sees defaecation as a normal bodily function that is a great indicator of health (or otherwise), and in less developed countries, defaecation in public is seen as nothing unusual (particularly with children). In my opinion, we have a somewhat strange and prudish attitude in the UK. Our 'bathrooms' are often placed at almost inaccessible parts of public buildings, and eliminating is seen as something to be hidden. It's something we all have to do, so why hide it? I don't think it's so bad to hide it - I prefer my privacy, myself - but I don't understand why, among many people, it's almost forbidden to *talk* about it. Everyone I know is pretty vocal about urination - "Can we stop - I have to pee really bad!" etc. But everyone's so discreet about pooping. They'll say they need to "use the bathroom". I have one friend who always says "I have to sit in the bathroom". Oh, really? Are you meditating? Getting ideas for redecorating? What? What is that about? Joyce I don't know. We had friends that taught their children to say "I need to defecate" and while it was accurate, it was kind of disturbing. Kind of TMI. Jo |
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Jofirey wrote:
wrote in message ... MatSav wrote: Much of the [human] world sees defaecation as a normal bodily function that is a great indicator of health (or otherwise), and in less developed countries, defaecation in public is seen as nothing unusual (particularly with children). In my opinion, we have a somewhat strange and prudish attitude in the UK. Our 'bathrooms' are often placed at almost inaccessible parts of public buildings, and eliminating is seen as something to be hidden. It's something we all have to do, so why hide it? I don't think it's so bad to hide it - I prefer my privacy, myself - but I don't understand why, among many people, it's almost forbidden to *talk* about it. Everyone I know is pretty vocal about urination - "Can we stop - I have to pee really bad!" etc. But everyone's so discreet about pooping. They'll say they need to "use the bathroom". I have one friend who always says "I have to sit in the bathroom". Oh, really? Are you meditating? Getting ideas for redecorating? What? What is that about? Joyce I don't know. We had friends that taught their children to say "I need to defecate" and while it was accurate, it was kind of disturbing. Kind of TMI. Jo Ever hear these?: I have to see a man about a horse? A friend is calling. Nature is telling me something. Where is the rest room? IMHO all of these sound better than pee or poop. MLB |
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On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:40:04 -0600, MLB wrote:
Jofirey wrote: wrote in message ... MatSav wrote: Much of the [human] world sees defaecation as a normal bodily function that is a great indicator of health (or otherwise), and in less developed countries, defaecation in public is seen as nothing unusual (particularly with children). In my opinion, we have a somewhat strange and prudish attitude in the UK. Our 'bathrooms' are often placed at almost inaccessible parts of public buildings, and eliminating is seen as something to be hidden. It's something we all have to do, so why hide it? I don't think it's so bad to hide it - I prefer my privacy, myself - but I don't understand why, among many people, it's almost forbidden to *talk* about it. Everyone I know is pretty vocal about urination - "Can we stop - I have to pee really bad!" etc. But everyone's so discreet about pooping. They'll say they need to "use the bathroom". I have one friend who always says "I have to sit in the bathroom". Oh, really? Are you meditating? Getting ideas for redecorating? What? What is that about? Joyce I don't know. We had friends that taught their children to say "I need to defecate" and while it was accurate, it was kind of disturbing. Kind of TMI. Jo Ever hear these?: I have to see a man about a horse? A friend is calling. Nature is telling me something. Where is the rest room? IMHO all of these sound better than pee or poop. MLB At church this morning, I stopped in to use the men's room. A crowd of little boys had entered just ahead of me, and one three-year-old, who was having to wait in line, kept saying loudly, "I want to tinkle!". -- John F. Eldredge -- "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria |
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John F. Eldredge wrote:
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:40:04 -0600, MLB wrote: Jofirey wrote: wrote in message ... MatSav wrote: Much of the [human] world sees defaecation as a normal bodily function that is a great indicator of health (or otherwise), and in less developed countries, defaecation in public is seen as nothing unusual (particularly with children). In my opinion, we have a somewhat strange and prudish attitude in the UK. Our 'bathrooms' are often placed at almost inaccessible parts of public buildings, and eliminating is seen as something to be hidden. It's something we all have to do, so why hide it? I don't think it's so bad to hide it - I prefer my privacy, myself - but I don't understand why, among many people, it's almost forbidden to *talk* about it. Everyone I know is pretty vocal about urination - "Can we stop - I have to pee really bad!" etc. But everyone's so discreet about pooping. They'll say they need to "use the bathroom". I have one friend who always says "I have to sit in the bathroom". Oh, really? Are you meditating? Getting ideas for redecorating? What? What is that about? Joyce I don't know. We had friends that taught their children to say "I need to defecate" and while it was accurate, it was kind of disturbing. Kind of TMI. Jo Ever hear these?: I have to see a man about a horse? A friend is calling. Nature is telling me something. Where is the rest room? IMHO all of these sound better than pee or poop. MLB At church this morning, I stopped in to use the men's room. A crowd of little boys had entered just ahead of me, and one three-year-old, who was having to wait in line, kept saying loudly, "I want to tinkle!". I have a story about when my son was three going on four: My "maiden Aunt" who was very beautiful and aspired to elegant manners was Visiting at our house. My young son came running through the back door saying "I hasta pee -- I hasta pee". Auntie stopped him by putting her hand on his shoulder and said to him "Do not say pee, say urinate -- say urinate" ". My son looked her in the eyes with indignation and replied "I AM NOT AN APE!" MLB |
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wrote in message
MatSav wrote: Much of the [human] world sees defaecation as a normal bodily function that is a great indicator of health (or otherwise), and in less developed countries, defaecation in public is seen as nothing unusual (particularly with children). In my opinion, we have a somewhat strange and prudish attitude in the UK. Our 'bathrooms' are often placed at almost inaccessible parts of public buildings, and eliminating is seen as something to be hidden. It's something we all have to do, so why hide it? I don't think it's so bad to hide it - I prefer my privacy, myself - but I don't understand why, among many people, it's almost forbidden to *talk* about it. Everyone I know is pretty vocal about urination - "Can we stop - I have to pee really bad!" etc. But everyone's so discreet about pooping. They'll say they need to "use the bathroom". I have one friend who always says "I have to sit in the bathroom". Oh, really? Are you meditating? Getting ideas for redecorating? What? What is that about? For a while when we were desperately trying to get Cary out of nappies (diapers), we had to rush into the toilet, inspect his efforts and praise him profusely for it. I mean, what do you say about the stuff? We had to go into some detail about the particular individual nature of each session, and thus made a straw for our own backs. After finally getting him to poop confidently in the toilet, we then had to train Cary *not* to give us a running commentary about his bowel activities even though we'd made a big fuss just months earlier We're still arguing over who has to do the wiping. Kinda reminds me of the time when some girlfriends of mine got togetherover lunch. All bar one of us have kids, and they're all roughly of the same age too. We're in the middle of eating and chatting about our lives, and the topic, as it usually does, turns to our precious children, and one of my friends was complaining about her own son just not 'getting' toilet training. The rest of us chip in, and we all find ourselves having a lively discussion about poo as we're happily chowing down. Except of course the one who hasn't had kids yet (nor a litterbox), and she was looking rather..... green. For the rest of us, dealing with other people's poo is such a normal every day affair it had simply become a fact of life, and we had forgotten that other people have certain sensitivities to the subject, *especially* whilst eating. Yowie -- If you're paddling upstream in a canoe and a wheel falls off, how many pancakes can you fit in a doghouse? None, icecream doesn't have bones. |
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"Yowie" wrote in message ... wrote in message MatSav wrote: Much of the [human] world sees defaecation as a normal bodily function that is a great indicator of health (or otherwise), and in less developed countries, defaecation in public is seen as nothing unusual (particularly with children). In my opinion, we have a somewhat strange and prudish attitude in the UK. Our 'bathrooms' are often placed at almost inaccessible parts of public buildings, and eliminating is seen as something to be hidden. It's something we all have to do, so why hide it? I don't think it's so bad to hide it - I prefer my privacy, myself - but I don't understand why, among many people, it's almost forbidden to *talk* about it. Everyone I know is pretty vocal about urination - "Can we stop - I have to pee really bad!" etc. But everyone's so discreet about pooping. They'll say they need to "use the bathroom". I have one friend who always says "I have to sit in the bathroom". Oh, really? Are you meditating? Getting ideas for redecorating? What? What is that about? For a while when we were desperately trying to get Cary out of nappies (diapers), we had to rush into the toilet, inspect his efforts and praise him profusely for it. I mean, what do you say about the stuff? We had to go into some detail about the particular individual nature of each session, and thus made a straw for our own backs. After finally getting him to poop confidently in the toilet, we then had to train Cary *not* to give us a running commentary about his bowel activities even though we'd made a big fuss just months earlier We're still arguing over who has to do the wiping. Kinda reminds me of the time when some girlfriends of mine got togetherover lunch. All bar one of us have kids, and they're all roughly of the same age too. We're in the middle of eating and chatting about our lives, and the topic, as it usually does, turns to our precious children, and one of my friends was complaining about her own son just not 'getting' toilet training. The rest of us chip in, and we all find ourselves having a lively discussion about poo as we're happily chowing down. Except of course the one who hasn't had kids yet (nor a litterbox), and she was looking rather..... green. For the rest of us, dealing with other people's poo is such a normal every day affair it had simply become a fact of life, and we had forgotten that other people have certain sensitivities to the subject, *especially* whilst eating. That was one of the first shared Mom things for my younger daughter and I after her daughter was born. I watch Emily one day a week, and a normal part of the discussion when I take over and then when Tara gets back home is a run down of Emily's recent bowel behavior. I mean you need to know what to expect and what to feed her or not feed her. It won't be that much longer until she will be horrified if we were to mention such a thing. But women pretend to be the weaker sex. Jo |
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