Must Discuss the Kitties' Welfair

"hopitus" wrote in message
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On Jun 20, 6:43 am, "jmcquown" wrote:
Here we go again with the cross-posting. I'm sorry but it's just a
pet-peeve of mine.
Jill --deleting entire thread
I need a snork, but not at you, Jill. At the fact that
someone here *finally* notice the cross-posting, going out to all the
ng's of those we recipe to
the thing using nick S transported to *here and now* an old thread
from
rpcc from this time *last year*
and a few regs here *replied* to the brand newbie unknowns without
checking the *to* header
I was tempted to post another "sandwich" recipe but was waiting to
find out
just how long it would take for someone to get a grip with this thread
Drones we are
And drones we be
Cat-loving the only thing
On which we agree
You will curse the day my eyesight got a helluva lot better.
Jill: how do you "delete an entire thread"? Any short instructions?

***

In OE, you can "ignore thread". It shows the messages, but they are marked
as read. If you have it set to show only unread messages, they won't show
up next time. However, I usually killfile crossposters. I can only do it
individually, but it usually doesn't take long. Most of the crossposted
threads may have a dozen messages, but only two or three posters.

Joy

"Joy" wrote in message
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"hopitus" wrote in message
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On Jun 20, 6:43 am, "jmcquown" wrote:
Here we go again with the cross-posting. I'm sorry but it's just a
pet-peeve of mine.
Jill --deleting entire thread
I need a snork, but not at you, Jill. At the fact that
someone here *finally* notice the cross-posting, going out to all the
ng's of those we recipe to
the thing using nick S transported to *here and now* an old thread
from
rpcc from this time *last year*
and a few regs here *replied* to the brand newbie unknowns without
checking the *to* header
I was tempted to post another "sandwich" recipe but was waiting to
find out
just how long it would take for someone to get a grip with this thread
Drones we are
And drones we be
Cat-loving the only thing
On which we agree
You will curse the day my eyesight got a helluva lot better.
Jill: how do you "delete an entire thread"? Any short instructions?

***

In OE, you can "ignore thread". It shows the messages, but they are
marked as read. If you have it set to show only unread messages, they
won't show up next time. However, I usually killfile crossposters. I can
only do it individually, but it usually doesn't take long. Most of the
crossposted threads may have a dozen messages, but only two or three
posters.

Joy

All I have to do (in Live Mail) is highlight the posts and hit Delete.
IIRC, in OE you can do the same. It just takes the crap posts off your
screen. Doesn't hurt anyone else but it sure helps my reading enjoyment.

Does someone need a sandwich recipe? How about a nice Monte Cristo? Thinly
sliced (from the deli dept. at the grocery store) turkey & lean ham. Sliced
Swiss cheese (more specifically gruyere), between two slices of French
bread, dipped in an egg wash and fried like a grilled cheese sandwich on a
griddle. Often sprinkled with powdered (confectioners sugar - I'll skip
that, thanks) and served with raspberry jam. There's a reason they call
these sandwiches "decadent" - you can only eat them once a decade if you
expect to live much longer

Jill

On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 03:25:30 -0400, "jmcquown"
wrote:



Jill,

I LOOOOVE Monte Cristo Sandwiches! But you are so right - once a
decade only! The best one I ever had was actually deep fried - oh to
die for (and guess one actually could LOL)

Ah, memories...

Sophia

"jmcquown" wrote in message ...

"Joy" wrote in message
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"hopitus" wrote in message
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On Jun 20, 6:43 am, "jmcquown" wrote:
Here we go again with the cross-posting. I'm sorry but it's just a
pet-peeve of mine.
Jill --deleting entire thread
I need a snork, but not at you, Jill. At the fact that
someone here *finally* notice the cross-posting, going out to all the
ng's of those we recipe to
the thing using nick S transported to *here and now* an old thread
from
rpcc from this time *last year*
and a few regs here *replied* to the brand newbie unknowns without
checking the *to* header
I was tempted to post another "sandwich" recipe but was waiting to
find out
just how long it would take for someone to get a grip with this thread
Drones we are
And drones we be
Cat-loving the only thing
On which we agree
You will curse the day my eyesight got a helluva lot better.
Jill: how do you "delete an entire thread"? Any short instructions?

***

In OE, you can "ignore thread". It shows the messages, but they are
marked as read. If you have it set to show only unread messages, they
won't show up next time. However, I usually killfile crossposters. I can
only do it individually, but it usually doesn't take long. Most of the
crossposted threads may have a dozen messages, but only two or three
posters.

Joy

All I have to do (in Live Mail) is highlight the posts and hit Delete.
IIRC, in OE you can do the same. It just takes the crap posts off your
screen. Doesn't hurt anyone else but it sure helps my reading enjoyment.

Does someone need a sandwich recipe? How about a nice Monte Cristo? Thinly
sliced (from the deli dept. at the grocery store) turkey & lean ham. Sliced
Swiss cheese (more specifically gruyere), between two slices of French
bread, dipped in an egg wash and fried like a grilled cheese sandwich on a
griddle. Often sprinkled with powdered (confectioners sugar - I'll skip
that, thanks) and served with raspberry jam. There's a reason they call
these sandwiches "decadent" - you can only eat them once a decade if you
expect to live much longer

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There used to be a restaurant establishment called Bennigans in Jax, FL.
Don't know if they still exist, but let me tell you, their Monte Cristo
sandwiches were THE BEST. A group of us would always go to church and then
to Bennigans for bloody marys and Monte Cristos. YUMMMM!!


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Jill

CatNipped wrote:
I hate, hate HATE those companies that not only require a certain
number of characters, but refuse passwords that are recent repeats of
past passwords (like 20 passwords back, or won't allow consesequitive
letters, or common words, or anything at ALL easily memorable - no
wonder I can't ever get into the same place twice. What the heck do
they care if I get "hacked", that's *NY* problem, and besides, the
passwords I use and remember couldn't possibly be figured out by
anyone but me and *maybe* Ben. Who the hell are they to tell me
what's a proper password for me??!!
/password rant

Sorry we were so rudely interrupted....

I am developing a password system that generates the password from the web
address of the internet page on which I am located at the time. IOW, if I am
on, "Wellsfargo.com" the password I will use will be unforgettable to me,
because it will be generated by the word, "wellsfargo" together with a
standard password that applies to all that I can remember easily. When I
complete this, my password will be different for every vendor, and yet
unforgetable by me, since I will generate it mentally based on the name of
the website. I may try to get around the word length problem by generating
an 8 character password to begin with, since thare are some sites that
require more than 6 characters, but I haven't come across one yet that
refuses to accept 8 characters. I will use the keyboard letter positions to
generate specal characters, since most "password advisors" insist on mixing
in some special characters, although I really can't understand why. They
only add about 10 characters to the standard 36 or so alpha-numeric set. But
the keyboard has them, so it will be easy for me to use it to generate them.

On Jun 19, 12:55*pm, "CatNipped" wrote:
I hate, hate HATE those companies that not only require a certain number of
characters, but refuse passwords that are recent repeats of past passwords
(like 20 passwords back, or won't allow consesequitive letters, or common
words, or anything at ALL easily memorable - no wonder I can't ever get into
the same place twice. *What the heck do they care if I get "hacked", that's
*NY* problem, and besides, the passwords I use and remember couldn't
possibly be figured out by anyone but me and *maybe* Ben. *Who the hell are
they to tell me what's a proper password for me??!!

/password rant


I come up with passwords that mean something to me, but are not normal
names by themselves. And then I send myself an email with my username
and password hint. The hint makes perfect sense to me, so I don't have
to include the actual password. It could be a letter and the # sign,
and I know what name and number that is. It could be old goal or new
goal, and I know what that means.

At work, I keep it very simple as 3 of use the same account, and I
really doubt somebody wants to hack into the deli department account.
So I have an easy word, punctuation, and a number, and the number
goes up by a specific number every time it requires a password change.
That way, the other clerks can easily guess the new password if they
find it has changed.

I also like to answer security questions wrong, so that I know the
correct answer, but it isn't easily obvious. For example, I don't use
my sister's middle name for that question. I use somebody else;s
middle name. I don't use my first pet, etc.

wrote:
On Jun 19, 12:55 pm, "CatNipped" wrote:
I hate, hate HATE those companies that not only require a certain
number of characters, but refuse passwords that are recent repeats
of past passwords (like 20 passwords back, or won't allow
consesequitive letters, or common words, or anything at ALL easily
memorable - no wonder I can't ever get into the same place twice.
What the heck do they care if I get "hacked", that's *NY* problem,
and besides, the passwords I use and remember couldn't possibly be
figured out by anyone but me and *maybe* Ben. Who the hell are they
to tell me what's a proper password for me??!!

/password rant


I come up with passwords that mean something to me, but are not normal
names by themselves. And then I send myself an email with my username
and password hint. The hint makes perfect sense to me, so I don't have
to include the actual password. It could be a letter and the # sign,
and I know what name and number that is. It could be old goal or new
goal, and I know what that means.

At work, I keep it very simple as 3 of use the same account, and I
really doubt somebody wants to hack into the deli department account.
So I have an easy word, punctuation, and a number, and the number
goes up by a specific number every time it requires a password change.
That way, the other clerks can easily guess the new password if they
find it has changed.

I also like to answer security questions wrong, so that I know the
correct answer, but it isn't easily obvious. For example, I don't use
my sister's middle name for that question. I use somebody else;s
middle name. I don't use my first pet, etc.

Yes. Well, passwords vary in their importance. You can use simple ones for
unimportant things, but for the important stuff, it's good to have a
password that's difficult to figure out. and, it these important ones that I
would like to encode so that I can figure them out on the spot based on the
information I have rather than sheer memory, but nobody else could. - It
would be completely raqndom to anyone who doesn't know my "system", and that
way, I wouldn't have to write anything down. My problem with writing stuff
down is twqfold, I would misplace the book and not be able to enter my own
accounts, and/or someone else would break into my house when I am gone asnd
get all my passwords out of the book. In either case, I don't like the idea
of writing therm down in a book.
There used to be a physicist...A Niobel prize winner, and he liked to break
into his co-workers safes, just as an exercise. Most of the time, he would
find their combination taped underneath their middle desk drawer, or some
similoar place in their office. He knew very little about safes and how
they worked, but he knew a lot about his co-workers minds and how they
worked, which, it turnes out, was just as good if not better. This guys name
was Richard P. Feynman, and he wrote several books which are all a good
read. He was an excellent teacher, and anyone can learn a lot from his
books, even if they are not scientifically oriented.

On Jun 24, 6:39*pm, "Bill Graham" wrote:
wrote:
On Jun 19, 12:55 pm, "CatNipped" wrote:
I hate, hate HATE those companies that not only require a certain
number of characters, but refuse passwords that are recent repeats
of past passwords (like 20 passwords back, or won't allow
consesequitive letters, or common words, or anything at ALL easily
memorable - no wonder I can't ever get into the same place twice.
What the heck do they care if I get "hacked", that's *NY* problem,
and besides, the passwords I use and remember couldn't possibly be
figured out by anyone but me and *maybe* Ben. Who the hell are they
to tell me what's a proper password for me??!!

/password rant

I come up with passwords that mean something to me, but are not normal
names by themselves. And then I send myself an email with my username
and password hint. The hint makes perfect sense to me, so I don't have
to include the actual password. It could be a letter and the # sign,
and I know what name and number that is. It could be old goal or new
goal, and I know what that means.

At work, I keep it very simple as 3 of use the same account, and I
really doubt somebody wants to hack into the deli department account.
So I have an easy word, punctuation, * and a number, and the number
goes up by a specific number every time it requires a password change.
That way, the other clerks can easily guess the new password if they
find it has changed.

I also like to answer security questions wrong, so that I know the
correct answer, but it isn't easily obvious. For example, I don't use
my sister's middle name for that question. I use somebody else;s
middle name. I don't use my first pet, etc.

Yes. Well, passwords vary in their importance. You can use simple ones for
unimportant things, but for the important stuff, it's good to have a
password that's difficult to figure out. and, it these important ones that I
would like to encode so that I can figure them out on the spot based on the
information I have rather than sheer memory, but nobody else could. - It
would be completely raqndom to anyone who doesn't know my "system", and that
way, I wouldn't have to write anything down. My problem with writing stuff
down is twqfold, I would misplace the book and not be able to enter my own
accounts, and/or someone else would break into my house when I am gone asnd
get all my passwords out of the book. In either case, I don't like the idea
of writing therm down in a book.

This is why I send myself an email and save it in a special location.
And the email contains the username and a hint. No actual password.
And I know what the hint means. I have made up numbers that go with
certain things, so I know what the combination is, how many digits as
they vary, and what order and what punctuation.

I never write down my passwords, but I do know where to find my hints
as I have various passwords at a ton of websites. I would never be
able to remember which password goes with which website without my set
of hints. I can't even remember my usernames sometimes, and I only use
a few of those. I was just at my employer's website to review a
paycheck stub. It took me 15 minutes to remember that my username for
that account is my checker number, not a word.

There's a dangerous assumption here, i.e. that choosing a relatively
simple password that is highly personal to you, is safe because nobody
would guess it unless they knew you and your personal information.
Folks, that's not how hackers break passwords, they don't go your login
and try to guess your password. They hack the website completely (a-la
Sony) grab the master password file & username list, and feed that data
to one or more computers to simply brute force decrypt the password
file, they don't need to know anything about you at all.

I've decided to use Lastpass and different long completely random
passwords for each website that I couldn't begin to remember. The only
password I have to remember is my Lastpass password, they handle the
rest. Granted, this relies on two things:

1. Nobody can guess my Lastpass password
2. Lastpass's security and encryption is good enough to prevent the
master password data falling into the wrong hands and being decrytped in
a useful amount of time.

So far it's working, but if you bank online or use credit cards online,
the watchword is vigilance ;-)

BTW, are you wondering if one of the recent hacks (Sony, Citicard, etc)
has compromised your password or email address? If not, you probably
should be, so check out this tool:

https://shouldichangemypassword.com/

It's legit and simply searches the data that has been leaked from sites
like Sony to see if your email address is in leaked data.
--
Nik Simpson

"hopitus" wrote in message
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On Jun 25, 9:15 am, nik Simpson wrote:
There's a dangerous assumption here, i.e. that choosing a relatively
simple password that is highly personal to you, is safe because nobody
would guess it unless they knew you and your personal information.
Folks, that's not how hackers break passwords, they don't go your login
and try to guess your password. They hack the website completely (a-la
Sony) grab the master password file & username list, and feed that data
to one or more computers to simply brute force decrypt the password
file, they don't need to know anything about you at all.

I've decided to use Lastpass and different long completely random
passwords for each website that I couldn't begin to remember. The only
password I have to remember is my Lastpass password, they handle the
rest. Granted, this relies on two things:

1. Nobody can guess my Lastpass password
2. Lastpass's security and encryption is good enough to prevent the
master password data falling into the wrong hands and being decrytped in
a useful amount of time.

So far it's working, but if you bank online or use credit cards online,
the watchword is vigilance ;-)

BTW, are you wondering if one of the recent hacks (Sony, Citicard, etc)
has compromised your password or email address? If not, you probably
should be, so check out this tool:

https://shouldichangemypassword.com/

It's legit and simply searches the data that has been leaked from sites
like Sony to see if your email address is in leaked data.
--
Nik Simpson
You are a reg here & that is the only reason I bother to once again
point out that this thread
was started by trolls and continued by both other trolls and the
drones here. You probably
did not notice that multiple crosspostings are in the header and you
crossposted this post
just like the trolls want you to. Check out the posted dates at the
very beginning of this thread.
Its a big joke to them. They dragged over here an old thread from rpcc
from a year ago.


It is not being helped by the poster Bill who is a total moron; who has
given out bad and dangerous advice on cats before in other groups.