Update on Blocked Cat

"---MIKE---" wrote in message
...
Ray sounds like a troll to me.

Yep. A troll with a bone to pick with Phil. A troll who
lives in Massachusetts.


---MIKE---
In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
(44° 15' N - Elevation 1580')

Phil didn't give me direct advice. But I took his advice and fed my cat
high quality canned food. So I did and my cat got run over by an SUV.
So now she's dead.

Mary wrote:
"Ray" wrote in message
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I took Phil's advice regarding my cat's diet and now she's dead.

Lets have some specifics, Ray. Or direct us to the thread, then tell
us what
happened when you followed Phil's advice. Are you saying, as you seem
to be,
that you think it was Phil's advice that resulted in the death of
your cat?

If this is true, you owe it to everyone here to tell us the
specifics. Phil
would certainly want to know if he recommended the wrong thing to
you, as
dedicated as he is to the welfare of cats.




wrote:
John Ross Mc Master wrote:
On Sat, 14 May 2005 18:55:33 -0400, "Phil P."

wrote:


"John Ross Mc Master" wrote in
message

The cause of the blockage is the cat's body's inabilty to
handle
ash
(magnesium and the like) in food.

There is no 'ash' in cat food- 'ash' is an analysis of the
mineral
content-
not an ingredient- that's why its listed in the Guaranteed
Analysis
and not
in the ingredients list. "Ash" is determined by burning an
aliquot
of the
diet for 2 hours at 600*C and weighing the residue. "Ash" is
actually all
the noncombustible components of the diet- which includes most
of
the
mineral content- without regard to any specific element. The
'ash'
analysis
does not correlate to the magnesium content of the diet.

Also, struvite is a function of urine pH not magnesium. At
urine
pH
of 6.1
or less struvite won't form regardless of the amount of
magnesium
in
the
diet. Magnesium content becomes important only when urine pH
rises
above
6.2. Urine pH determines *if* struvite will form; the
magnesium
content
determines *how much* struvite will form.

Phil

My vet once told me to get low ash magnesium restricted cat
food
for
a
male cat who had a urinary tract blockage operation. I think
I'll
trust the vet and not you.

Coming in late on this thread--but I just wanted to say, please
don't
make the same mistake I did, in thinking "DVM" means they're
automatically the all-knowing, failproof savior of your cat's
health.
Vets make mistakes. And there are good vets, and bad vets. Some
vets
are very knowledgeable livestock, dogs, but not cats. And
some
don't know squat **** about nutrition.
Cropping a long story short that I've told too many times
already, my
cat would have died if it hadn't been for Phil convincing me the
"cow
vet" (that's one of the nicer adjectives he used) was killing my
cat.
I
actually printed out the e-mails Phil sent, and took them to
another
vet to see what he'd say. I actually learned more in that vet
visit
than I ever had. I was too passive about the cat's care before.
You don't have to take Phil's word, or Megan's, or anybody's
here, as
the gospel either. But use it to arm yourself with questions for
YOUR
vet. Take the knowledge you can glean here, and further research
YOURSELF.
Don't be so close-minded about anonymous laymen cat people that
you
blow off what he's saying. Try to *prove* him wrong by research.
I
think you'll be surprised, and your cat will benefit.

Sherry

How do you know I am really in Mass? Yes, the server might be there but
I don't have to be in the same state as the server, do I?

Why are you concerned that I'm a troll? The so-called discussion on
this thread (and many other threads) has degenerated into name-calling
so I figured might as well have some fun.

"Ray" wrote in message
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Why are you concerned that I'm a troll? The so-called discussion on
this thread (and many other threads) has degenerated into name-calling
so I figured might as well have some fun.


As long as you're having a good time. Meanwhile, whose post are you
responding to?

"Ray" wrote in message
oups.com...
How do you know I am really in Mass? Yes, the server might be there but
I don't have to be in the same state as the server, do I?


You don't have to be in the same state but you probably are, and you are at
least near by. You're not south of Maryland or west of Pennsylvania, that's
for sure. Your IP narrows things down quite a bit.

I don't really care. You trolled the group and got the
response you expected, so good for you.