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  #21  
Old August 23rd 07, 01:29 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav,alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.misc
Charlie Wilkes
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:00:28 -0700, bookie wrote:

On 22 Aug, 22:01, "-L." wrote:
Charlie Wilkes wrote:

Sure, there's a difference. Drowning is not the worst possible way
for an animal to die. But it is not a humane means of killing.


Oh STFU Charlie. You're the last one who should be debating the
"humanity" of animal cruelty. You're the one who tied a dog up and
left it for 3 days without food as a form of punishment and later
posted a picture of your cat hanging from its harness "for fun". You're
just a sick, warped ****, and anyone who has been around here longer
than 5 minutes knows it.

You still need a reason why you didn't get Conan? This thread proves
why. Asshole.

-L.


what?

are you serious?

he with held food from a dog for 3 days??!!?? as a 'punishment'??!!!


No. The dog missed one feeding. I did it because she ran off and stayed
out all night, which in my neck of the woods puts a dog at risk of
getting shot.


dogs do not need punishing, they do not do things which require
punishing, if they do something which we find unacceptable then they
will nto hav done it out of malice or just to be 'naughty' or 'bad', all
they need is better training and to know what is acceptable using
POSITIVE reinforcement. by punishing a dog all you get is a ocnfused,
stressed and unhappy dog who will probably go on to produce even more
unacceptable behaviours out of confusion (which will again of course be
interpreted by some idiot human as the dog being naughty and said canine
will probably then be punished for doing somethign he didn't know was
'wrong' in the first place but which is his way of coping with stress of
an uncaring owner, and thus the cycle begins and spirals out of
control).

when people come out with crap like 'that dog needs to be punished' it
is usually the owners who need to be punished for not training their dog
properly and not being consistent in their approach, that is the bottom
line. Dogs just want to please their owners and be accepted and be part
of the pack and the family, they would not knowlingly do anything which
would anger theri 'master' or cause them to be ousted from the pack
would they? anyone who thinks otherwise should get a grip, and
definintely NOT get a dog.

oh god I'm off again, i just can't bear the idea of some poor frightened
confused dog, wondering why on earth the master he loves so much is
treating him this way and what on earth he has done to get this
treatment, it just makes my heart weep. people who want to have a dog
shoudl think about what the world looks like from the dog's perspective
first and how the behaviours and actions of humans will be interpreted
by the dog, and first and foremost accept that dogs are not capable of
willfully doing 'evil' and 'naughty' things.

christ alive, this has totally ruined my day now


Yeah, well the good news is the dog was killed, probably by a neighbor,
in my own front yard, so you can sleep tight knowing I got my comeuppance.

Charlie
  #22  
Old August 23rd 07, 02:11 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav,alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.misc
Professor
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"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message
news
Yeah, well the good news is the dog was killed, probably by a neighbor,
in my own front yard, so you can sleep tight knowing I got my comeuppance.

Charlie


You are clearly a sick asshole obsessed with killing small animals. Go find
some other group to antagonize, or better yet kill yourself.


  #23  
Old August 23rd 07, 02:31 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav,alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.misc
bookie
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On 23 Aug, 01:29, Charlie Wilkes
wrote:
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:00:28 -0700, bookie wrote:
On 22 Aug, 22:01, "-L." wrote:
Charlie Wilkes wrote:


Sure, there's a difference. Drowning is not the worst possible way
for an animal to die. But it is not a humane means of killing.


Oh STFU Charlie. You're the last one who should be debating the
"humanity" of animal cruelty. You're the one who tied a dog up and
left it for 3 days without food as a form of punishment and later
posted a picture of your cat hanging from its harness "for fun". You're
just a sick, warped ****, and anyone who has been around here longer
than 5 minutes knows it.


You still need a reason why you didn't get Conan? This thread proves
why. Asshole.


-L.


what?


are you serious?


he with held food from a dog for 3 days??!!?? as a 'punishment'??!!!


No. The dog missed one feeding. I did it because she ran off and stayed
out all night, which in my neck of the woods puts a dog at risk of
getting shot.







dogs do not need punishing, they do not do things which require
punishing, if they do something which we find unacceptable then they
will nto hav done it out of malice or just to be 'naughty' or 'bad', all
they need is better training and to know what is acceptable using
POSITIVE reinforcement. by punishing a dog all you get is a ocnfused,
stressed and unhappy dog who will probably go on to produce even more
unacceptable behaviours out of confusion (which will again of course be
interpreted by some idiot human as the dog being naughty and said canine
will probably then be punished for doing somethign he didn't know was
'wrong' in the first place but which is his way of coping with stress of
an uncaring owner, and thus the cycle begins and spirals out of
control).


when people come out with crap like 'that dog needs to be punished' it
is usually the owners who need to be punished for not training their dog
properly and not being consistent in their approach, that is the bottom
line. Dogs just want to please their owners and be accepted and be part
of the pack and the family, they would not knowlingly do anything which
would anger theri 'master' or cause them to be ousted from the pack
would they? anyone who thinks otherwise should get a grip, and
definintely NOT get a dog.


oh god I'm off again, i just can't bear the idea of some poor frightened
confused dog, wondering why on earth the master he loves so much is
treating him this way and what on earth he has done to get this
treatment, it just makes my heart weep. people who want to have a dog
shoudl think about what the world looks like from the dog's perspective
first and how the behaviours and actions of humans will be interpreted
by the dog, and first and foremost accept that dogs are not capable of
willfully doing 'evil' and 'naughty' things.


christ alive, this has totally ruined my day now


Yeah, well the good news is the dog was killed, probably by a neighbor,
in my own front yard, so you can sleep tight knowing I got my comeuppance.

Charlie- Hide quoted text -

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so you deliberately with hold food in an attempt to 'encourage' the
dog to stick around and not run off again? sorry i don't quite
understand how that works exactly? please explain...

again, the dog did not 'run off' to **** you off, where do you get
such a stupid idea? it probably went in the hope of finding a better
owner or for a thousand other reasons which seemed logical to the dog
at the time but i can bet that none of them involve deliberately
trying to annoy you.

at least the dog is in a better place now and not being starved by an
uncaring owner with a twisted idea of how dogs think.

jesus wept
bookie

  #24  
Old August 23rd 07, 08:33 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav,alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.misc
Charlie Wilkes
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:31:01 -0700, bookie wrote:


again, the dog did not 'run off' to **** you off, where do you get such
a stupid idea?


??? What makes you think I had that idea?

it probably went in the hope of finding a better owner or
for a thousand other reasons which seemed logical to the dog at the time
but i can bet that none of them involve deliberately trying to annoy
you.


Of course she wasn't trying to annoy me. And I wasn't angry. I was
worried. I didn't know how else to get the message across to her that
running off is DANGEROUS. I live on a rural area where free running dogs
can and do get shot.

What I did may or may not have been effective, but I didn't do it to
abuse my dog, who I dearly loved. I should never have mentioned it in
this group, obviously.

Charlie
  #25  
Old August 23rd 07, 08:12 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav,alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.misc
bonbon
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On Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:01:07 -0700, "-L."
wrote:


Charlie Wilkes wrote:

Sure, there's a difference. Drowning is not the worst possible way for
an animal to die. But it is not a humane means of killing.


Oh STFU Charlie. You're the last one who should be debating the
"humanity" of animal cruelty. You're the one who tied a dog up and
left it for 3 days without food as a form of punishment and later
posted a picture of your cat hanging from its harness "for fun".
You're just a sick, warped ****, and anyone who has been around here
longer than 5 minutes knows it.

You still need a reason why you didn't get Conan? This thread proves
why. Asshole.

-L.


I didn't watch the video L. In fact I refrained from even reading the
cat newsgroups for almost a week just because of the subject title in
the original post. When ever I see a post like the original one here,
I get visions in my head that I can't get rid of for weeks, sometimes
years.

I like the 'comeback' you wrote to Charlie. Apparently he is an
asshole for even posting something as horendous as this in the first
place. The whole world knows what kind of horrors the human race
inflicts on sweet little pooties. The answer I suppose is to try and
educate the morons and not to dwell on the pain and suffering they
cause.

-bonbon
  #26  
Old August 27th 07, 01:54 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav,alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.misc
-L.
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Charlie Wilkes wrote:
No. The dog missed one feeding. I did it because she ran off and stayed
out all night, which in my neck of the woods puts a dog at risk of
getting shot.


Bull****. Excuse me - it was 2 days, not 3 - You said "48 hours" in
your own post:

"My dog was mean and nasty as an adolescent. When she was about 9
months old, I was gone on business and my dog was in the care of
friends, and she ran down to the local post office (near my house) and
accosted a couple of guys and backed them down and caused quite a PR
problem for me.

Soon after that she became easy to train and control. I never raised
my voice or punished her except once -- when she ran off overnight.
She was severely punished by being tied out away from the house, alone
with nothing but a bowl of water for 48 hours. That did it, too. "

From:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.p...eb0d26c162e70a
Post #30

What kind of asshole calls a 9 month old puppy a "mean and
nasty...adolescent"?
She probably committed suicide to get away from you.

-L.

  #27  
Old August 27th 07, 06:59 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav,alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.misc
Professor
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"-L." wrote in message
ups.com...
Charlie Wilkes wrote:
No. The dog missed one feeding. I did it because she ran off and stayed
out all night, which in my neck of the woods puts a dog at risk of
getting shot.


Bull****. Excuse me - it was 2 days, not 3 - You said "48 hours" in
your own post:

"My dog was mean and nasty as an adolescent. When she was about 9
months old, I was gone on business and my dog was in the care of
friends, and she ran down to the local post office (near my house) and
accosted a couple of guys and backed them down and caused quite a PR
problem for me.

Soon after that she became easy to train and control. I never raised
my voice or punished her except once -- when she ran off overnight.
She was severely punished by being tied out away from the house, alone
with nothing but a bowl of water for 48 hours. That did it, too. "

From:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.p...eb0d26c162e70a
Post #30

What kind of asshole calls a 9 month old puppy a "mean and
nasty...adolescent"?
She probably committed suicide to get away from you.
-L.


Charlie Wilkes is clearly a deranged sociopath, don't waste your breath on
him.


  #28  
Old August 27th 07, 08:44 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav,alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.misc
Sheelagh >o
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On 27 Aug, 18:59, "Professor" wrote:
"-L." wrote in message

ups.com...





Charlie Wilkes wrote:
No. The dog missed one feeding. I did it because she ran off and stayed
out all night, which in my neck of the woods puts a dog at risk of
getting shot.


Bull****. Excuse me - it was 2 days, not 3 - You said "48 hours" in
your own post:


"My dog was mean and nasty as an adolescent. When she was about 9
months old, I was gone on business and my dog was in the care of
friends, and she ran down to the local post office (near my house) and
accosted a couple of guys and backed them down and caused quite a PR
problem for me.


Soon after that she became easy to train and control. I never raised
my voice or punished her except once -- when she ran off overnight.
She was severely punished by being tied out away from the house, alone
with nothing but a bowl of water for 48 hours. That did it, too. "


From:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.p...rowse_frm/thre...
Post #30


What kind of asshole calls a 9 month old puppy a "mean and
nasty...adolescent"?
She probably committed suicide to get away from you.
-L.


Charlie Wilkes is clearly a deranged sociopath, don't waste your breath on
him.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


And you are....?

  #29  
Old August 28th 07, 09:22 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav,alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.misc
Charlie Wilkes
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 05:54:27 -0700, -L. wrote:

Charlie Wilkes wrote:
No. The dog missed one feeding. I did it because she ran off and
stayed out all night, which in my neck of the woods puts a dog at risk
of getting shot.


Bull****. Excuse me - it was 2 days, not 3 - You said "48 hours" in
your own post:

"My dog was mean and nasty as an adolescent. When she was about 9
months old, I was gone on business and my dog was in the care of
friends, and she ran down to the local post office (near my house) and
accosted a couple of guys and backed them down and caused quite a PR
problem for me.

Soon after that she became easy to train and control. I never raised my
voice or punished her except once -- when she ran off overnight. She was
severely punished by being tied out away from the house, alone with
nothing but a bowl of water for 48 hours. That did it, too. "


We've been over this, dear. Normally, the dog was fed in the evening.
She ran off after being fed on a Monday evening, was found near an
outbuilding on Tuesday a.m., was tied out from then until Wednesday
afternoon, and was fed at the normal time Wednesday evening. She had
"nothing but a bowl of water for 48 hours," but she only missed one daily
feeding.

BTW, have the police shown up on your doorstep lately, or have you
learned to control your urge to harass people?

Charlie
  #30  
Old August 29th 07, 08:46 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav,alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.misc
-L.
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Charlie Wilkes wrote:

BTW, have the police shown up on your doorstep lately, or have you
learned to control your urge to harass people?

Charlie


I would suggest you stop committing libel, lest you find yourself at
the end of a big fat lawsuit, Charlie Wilkes. I could use a house on
an island...
-L.

 




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