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Old October 28th 05, 04:10 AM
Rhonda
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Abernathy is becoming just a regular cat in the household. A week ago,
he even crawled into my lap for a snuggle, and purred like a truck! He
spent time laying between me and the arm of the chair, and he was
completely upside down. He was 4 paws to the wind.

He still skitters away if we walk towards him, but he has come around
about 200%. He seems to be happy here, and I am relieved!

First health issue though, I caught him peeing on the couch last night.
In the next few hours, I noticed him in the litter box twice. I thought
we had a behavior issue at first because the previous owner said once
when they moved and things were packed in boxes -- he started peeing on
furniture and ruined a chair. He stopped eventually.

I cleaned the sofa and covered it and the chairs in plastic, and
prepared to batten down the hatches. Then after work today I noticed him
squatting several times in the litter box and outside of it. Urine is
coming out in small amounts so he's not blocked, and he's purring and
responsive. I caught the vet just before closing and made an appt. for
tomorrow morning. Please cross your fingers that I can get him into a
carrier this soon after he started trusting humans again.

Question, other than diet what are causes of UTI's? I'll be discussing
diet with the vet. We have changed him off of the Purina he was on at
his previous home. Can stress cause a UTI? He went through tremendous
stress the last few months. If he did have an undiagnosed UTI with the
other owner, it was during a time of stress from a move, also. Once he
has a UTI, will he most likely have them the rest of his life?

All good taking-to-the-vet thoughts welcome for tomorrow!

Rhonda

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Old October 28th 05, 04:13 AM
No More Retail
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Rhonda stress can kill


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Old October 28th 05, 04:51 AM
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On 2005-10-27 22:10:48 -0500, Rhonda said:

Abernathy is becoming just a regular cat in the household. A week ago,
he even crawled into my lap for a snuggle, and purred like a truck! He
spent time laying between me and the arm of the chair, and he was
completely upside down. He was 4 paws to the wind.

He still skitters away if we walk towards him, but he has come around
about 200%. He seems to be happy here, and I am relieved!

First health issue though, I caught him peeing on the couch last night.
In the next few hours, I noticed him in the litter box twice. I thought
we had a behavior issue at first because the previous owner said once
when they moved and things were packed in boxes -- he started peeing on
furniture and ruined a chair. He stopped eventually.

I cleaned the sofa and covered it and the chairs in plastic, and
prepared to batten down the hatches. Then after work today I noticed
him squatting several times in the litter box and outside of it. Urine
is coming out in small amounts so he's not blocked, and he's purring
and responsive. I caught the vet just before closing and made an appt.
for tomorrow morning. Please cross your fingers that I can get him into
a carrier this soon after he started trusting humans again.

Question, other than diet what are causes of UTI's? I'll be discussing
diet with the vet. We have changed him off of the Purina he was on at
his previous home. Can stress cause a UTI? He went through tremendous
stress the last few months. If he did have an undiagnosed UTI with the
other owner, it was during a time of stress from a move, also. Once he
has a UTI, will he most likely have them the rest of his life?

All good taking-to-the-vet thoughts welcome for tomorrow!

Rhonda


Stress is a huge factor in UTI's. I'm sure he is stressed with all the
changes (even GOOD changes cause stress). For Grant, we just went to
wet food and LOTS of water around the house and I got Feliway
diffusers. He only ever had two episodes (and the second one, the vet
was able to see a little sluge plug and just worked it out manually.)
I hope he is fine until tomorrow. He sounds partially blocked
(possibly. Grant was when he acted like this. I took him to the
emergency vet). If he exhibits ANY kind of yowling or vomiting please
take him to the ER (although that is probably unnecessary as you are an
experienced cat person, I still feel obligated to put it out there.)
since that is VERY bad. Please let us know.

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Old October 28th 05, 05:24 AM
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No More Retail wrote:

Rhonda stress can kill


Deep.

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Old October 28th 05, 05:28 AM
Rhonda
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Karen wrote:


Stress is a huge factor in UTI's. I'm sure he is stressed with all the
changes (even GOOD changes cause stress). For Grant, we just went to wet
food and LOTS of water around the house and I got Feliway diffusers. He
only ever had two episodes (and the second one, the vet was able to see
a little sluge plug and just worked it out manually.) I hope he is fine
until tomorrow. He sounds partially blocked (possibly. Grant was when he
acted like this. I took him to the emergency vet). If he exhibits ANY
kind of yowling or vomiting please take him to the ER (although that is
probably unnecessary as you are an experienced cat person, I still feel
obligated to put it out there.) since that is VERY bad. Please let us know.



Thanks, Karen. So far, he's acting fairly normal other than the peeing.

I'm glad this happened on a Thursday, things like this usually happen
for us on Fridays with no available vet appts...

Poor guy, if stress does cause UTI's, that must be what he had before
with the other owner, and was never treated. That's partially why he
lost that home, too.

Hope the vet can easily diagnose and treat him tomorrow. Will let you know.

Rhonda



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Old October 28th 05, 05:30 AM
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"Rhonda" wrote:

I'm glad this happened on a Thursday, things like this usually happen
for us on Fridays with no available vet appts...

Poor guy, if stress does cause UTI's, that must be what he had before
with the other owner, and was never treated. That's partially why he
lost that home, too.

Hope the vet can easily diagnose and treat him tomorrow. Will let you

know.


Good luck, Rhonda, I'll be thinking about you and Abernathy. I'm really glad
he's with you--he could not be in better hands, my friend.


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Old October 28th 05, 05:31 AM
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Brandy Alexandre wrote:


In the midst of undiagnosed urine thing myself, Kami and I send purrs
for your appointment. She ain't fond of the carrier either.



Thanks, Brandy. I'm hoping we can get him into that carrier without too
many open wounds to the humans.

Rhonda


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Old October 28th 05, 05:34 AM
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Lumpy wrote:


Good luck, Rhonda, I'll be thinking about you and Abernathy. I'm really glad
he's with you--he could not be in better hands, my friend.


Thank you! I'm hoping we can clear this up for him quickly.

Cats are so good at hiding what's wrong. He must be pretty uncomfortable
to have to go that much, yet will flop and purr. He's a good guy.

Will let you know what happens with the appt.

Rhonda

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Old October 28th 05, 06:40 AM
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Rhonda.
It sounds like Abernathy may have a chronic condition called
interstitial cystitis.
See my post that details managing IC:
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.p...0f48d478088997

Megan



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Old October 28th 05, 07:32 PM
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"Rhonda" wrote in message
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Urine is
coming out in small amounts so he's not blocked,


Not necessarily. He could have a partial obstruction. Males with a partial
obstruction don't develop the classic symptoms of obstruction (lethargy,
depression, anorexia, vomiting) as quickly as a completely obstructed cat.

Dysuria, pollakiuria, and stranguria are sometimes difficult to distinguish
from a partial obstruction without palpating the bladder. Difficult and/or
painful urinatation while the bladder is full is classic symptom of
obstruction whereas difficult and/or painful attempts to urinate while the
bladder a empty is a classic symptom of feline interstitial cystitis.



Question, other than diet what are causes of UTI's?



Diets don't cause UTIs. Diets (dry food) and stress can unmask or
exacerbate feline interstitial cystitis.



I'll be discussing
diet with the vet. We have changed him off of the Purina he was on at
his previous home. Can stress cause a UTI?


Stress exacerbates feline interstitial cystitis. Infections of the bladder
most commonly ascend there, IOW they literally crawl up from outside.
Infections can also make their way to the bladder through the blood, from
the kidneys, through the lymphatic system and by extension from other nearby
infections.


He went through tremendous
stress the last few months.


Feline interstitial cystitis is more likely than UTI.


If he did have an undiagnosed UTI with the
other owner, it was during a time of stress from a move, also. Once he
has a UTI, will he most likely have them the rest of his life?


No- unless he becomes reinfected which is unlikely. True bacterial UTIs in
cats are actually rare due the high specific gravity and acidity of feline
urine, and the multiple host defense mechanisms of the cat. But once feline
interstitial cystitis is unmasked, it can recur whenever the cat is
stressed.



 




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