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OT I don't know if I posted this before and what I am allowed to eat
one of the things i really like about the congee concept is that i have had
it/made it from almost broth to as thick as breakfast porrige, and the consistency plus what you ad makes it totally different to the taste buds but the ease of preparation is all there, Lee "cshenk" wrote in message ... Hi Lee and Matthew, Top posting myself as it's easier this time. Congee yes, later when allowed the carb load. Scale that later up to a full 'rice porridge' (a japanese version which has usually 20 or more distinct little bits of other things in it). I'm going to have some fun today and select out some suitable ideas to frame recipes around. It will be easy for me as his 7-25 day diet other than having to be pureed is pretty easy to work with. In fact, other than a lack of rice (and having to puree it), thats not too far off what we eat here. Matthew, if you have any seafood allergies, let me know when you see this! For now as you selected out Nori, I'll assume not. I hope you have a good asian grocery near you! If not, Amazon.com has Hon Dashi (Ajinomoto Hon Dashi) for a little under 8$ that makes from 9-18 cups depending on how strong you like it. "Stormmee" wrote in message ... lol, start looking for low carb/healthier foodstuffs now, what popped into my head was arnold's bread and low carb wraps... mission is one brand. start looking at rice now if you eat it, going to an asian market and shopping rice is a fun/tastey way for "good carbs" and as i said google congee, its basically rice soup cooked to a creamy consistency which i think, provided you like rice might suit your eating when complex carbs are back, you can make a large batch plain, freeze and thaw and add meat/veg and further puree so you can drink eat, Lee "Matthew" wrote in message g.com... This is what I am going through and the surgery that happened Give a good explanation on what they did http://www.lapband.com/en/home/ day 1-6 while at home before first doctor visit which is Monday where they will advance me to a puree diet clear liquids at least 2 20mg protein shakes with 5g or less of carbs a day fat free / low fat yogurt no lumps 1% or skim milk water or crystal light Broth Sugar free Jell-O and popsicles Day 7-25 Foods must be low in fat have no white sugar and be starch free which means no potatoes, cereals, breads. pastas, rice. Only lean meats , fruits and non starchy vegetables, milk, yogurt and cheese. EVERYTHING IS PUREED. I can use fat free juice or broth to moisten the food when pureeing. I can also use low fat cream soups. No soda or carbohydrate drink or coffee Basically everything has to look like applesauce and strained so no lumps. Starchy vegetables are basically potatoes, corn, certain beans, green peas, acorn/butternut squash, sweet potatoes, yams Winter squashes, such as pumpkin, lentils, chick peas, lima beans, black eyed beans Example of a daily diet which is about 6 or 7 meals a day Breakfast 2-3 ounces protein & 1 ounce fruit Mid Morning protein shake lunch 2-3ounces of protein & 1 ounce of vegetables mid afternoon protein shake dinner 2-3 ounces of protein & 1 ounce of vegetables evening yogurt & 1 ounce of fruit Proteins are basically turkey, chicken, flaky fish, tuna ,eggs , ground beef, shrimp or shell fish, veal, pork, milk, cheeses, lamb Fruits are Apples, banana, cherries, grapes red or green, strawberries, blueberries, kiwi, lemons, mango, melons, pineapple, pears, plums raspberries,tangerine, watermelon, mandarin oranges, low sugar canned fruits. Non starchy vegetables are Sprouts (bean, alfalfa, etc.) Greens - lettuces, spinach, chard, etc. Hearty Greens - collards, mustard greens, kale, etc. Radicchio and endive count as greens Herbs - parsley, cilantro, basil, rosemary, thyme, etc. Bok Choy Celery Radishes Sea Vegetables (Nori, etc) Cabbage Mushrooms Jicama Avocado Cucumbers (or pickles without added sugars) Asparagus Italian and Wax Beans Broccoli Cauliflower Peppers Green Bell Peppers Red Bell Peppers Summer Squash Zucchini Scallions or green onions Bamboo Shoots Leeks Brussels Sprouts Snow Peas (pods) Tomatoes Eggplant Tomatillos Artichokes Fennel Onions Okra Spaghetti Squash Celery Root (Celeriac) Carrots 3 weeks to 3 months. I can advance to no more puree food still no starches or white sugar. I can start to use fat free/ low fat dressings, mayo , ketchup, mustard and fat free sour cream Breakfast 2-3 ounces protein & 1-2 ounce fruit Mid Morning yogurt and 1 ounce of fruit lunch 2-3 ounces of protein & 1 - 2ounce of vegetables mid afternoon 1-2 ounces of protein & 1 ounce of fruit dinner 2-3 ounces of protein & 1-2 ounce of vegetables evening yogurt or a glass of milk 3 months to 6 months I can start reintroducing complex carbohydrates into my diet such as 100% whole wheat bread, oatmeal, crackers. That diet will be introduced to me when I reach it ;-) I have to take and adult multivitamin every day no matter what. Every 4-6 weeks I will go through an adjustment phase where they find the right gap for me for the band. So I can expect to lose 1-3 pounds a week for the first year at least depending on how much exercise and strict diet use I do. I have a good motivation to stay away from the junk IT WILL MAKE YOU SICK AS A DOG with having the band and your body not being used to the sugar and carbs anymore ;-) Basically in a nut shell. now you know why I did not want to type all this out early this morning ;-) |
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OT I don't know if I posted this before and what I am allowed to eat
"Matthew" wrote
I know people hate top posting but I always look at it Pay my account than you can tell me what to do. Specially when I did a long post like this Grin, no harm! Some posts make it natural and while I've saved off your diet note now, not all willmake sense of this if they come in mid-thread without it. My mouth is watering already. No allergies to food. The only things for me is that the ice burg lettuce that you get pre packaged makes me queasy. A fresh head is fine. Heavy tomatoes sauce or soups puts way too much acid in my system even if I make it fresh normal tomatoes are fine. Cantaloupe green or orange gives me gas and I am not a pear fan. Pretty much else I have tried everything and like it Andrew Zimmerman would enjoy my company Great! I just came on a lovely one. I'm putting them in 3 series. Not all the directions will read straight up as a fit but I'll add comments. Some fit 2 catagories (where you omit an item in the earlier versions such as the carb item). As for Asian shopping. I live near and work in a tourist capital of the world everything and anything is here. Just can't drive anywhere yet medically not cleared yet ;-(. Before the surgery I cleared out everything that could tempt me. I wish Mom would understand that I told her she can have her stash but I won't cook anything that is not in my diet range so she is SOL. Grin, I lived in Japan almost 7 years (not sure if you knew that). Don't be suprised if much of this uses an asian flair. It's actually easier to low-carb with many of those dishes. Subbing from your list is easy peasy (grin). Just to give you an idea, I have a carb free oyster stew (which you puree) and fits the protien nicely in that 7-25 day set. Bet no one thought to mention that idea! It will show up again but this gives you an idea. As with all of them, adjust serving size. ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05 Title: Oyster Stew Categories: Diabetic, Soups/stews, Fish, Crockpot Yield: 4 Servings 1 pt Oysters with liquor 1 tb Butter 2 c Lowfat milk 1/8 ts Cayenne pepper Combine the oysters, oyster liquor, and butter in a skillet. Cook until the edges of the oysters curl. Add the milk. Heat just to boiling. Sprinkle with the cayenne pepper, Ladle into hot bowls. Garnish with chopped fresh parsley if desired. Makes 4 1/2 cup servings. Added note, can use 1/2 the butter. Puree then add milk PER SERVING: calories - 154, carbohydrates - 10 g., protein - 14 g., fat - 7 g., sodium - 184 mg., potassium - 337 mg., cholesterol - 65 mg. Exchanges = 1 Lean Meat, 1 Milk, 1 Fat FROM: The American Diabetes Association Holiday Cookbook by Betty Wedman, M.S., R.D. copyright 1986 ----- |
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OT I don't know if I posted this before and what I am allowed to eat
"Stormmee" wrote
one of the things i really like about the congee concept is that i have had it/made it from almost broth to as thick as breakfast porrige, and the consistency plus what you ad makes it totally different to the taste buds but the ease of preparation is all there, Lee Oh definately! You are going to love the Japan version if you havent seen it already. Meantime, I'm having a ball here scanning for fun ideas for Matthew. Arm's too wonky to make bread other than my regular stuff but I can type fine. Fortunately in my case, playing on the computer isnt related to any damage so it's a perfectly fine activity per my Doc. Don just reminded me I'm grinning like a fool. It's simple. I'm happiest when I can use my abilities to provide a little fun for others. |
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OT I don't know if I posted this before and what I am allowed to eat
DROOL thank you
"cshenk" wrote in message ... "Matthew" wrote I know people hate top posting but I always look at it Pay my account than you can tell me what to do. Specially when I did a long post like this Grin, no harm! Some posts make it natural and while I've saved off your diet note now, not all willmake sense of this if they come in mid-thread without it. My mouth is watering already. No allergies to food. The only things for me is that the ice burg lettuce that you get pre packaged makes me queasy. A fresh head is fine. Heavy tomatoes sauce or soups puts way too much acid in my system even if I make it fresh normal tomatoes are fine. Cantaloupe green or orange gives me gas and I am not a pear fan. Pretty much else I have tried everything and like it Andrew Zimmerman would enjoy my company Great! I just came on a lovely one. I'm putting them in 3 series. Not all the directions will read straight up as a fit but I'll add comments. Some fit 2 catagories (where you omit an item in the earlier versions such as the carb item). As for Asian shopping. I live near and work in a tourist capital of the world everything and anything is here. Just can't drive anywhere yet medically not cleared yet ;-(. Before the surgery I cleared out everything that could tempt me. I wish Mom would understand that I told her she can have her stash but I won't cook anything that is not in my diet range so she is SOL. Grin, I lived in Japan almost 7 years (not sure if you knew that). Don't be suprised if much of this uses an asian flair. It's actually easier to low-carb with many of those dishes. Subbing from your list is easy peasy (grin). Just to give you an idea, I have a carb free oyster stew (which you puree) and fits the protien nicely in that 7-25 day set. Bet no one thought to mention that idea! It will show up again but this gives you an idea. As with all of them, adjust serving size. ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05 Title: Oyster Stew Categories: Diabetic, Soups/stews, Fish, Crockpot Yield: 4 Servings 1 pt Oysters with liquor 1 tb Butter 2 c Lowfat milk 1/8 ts Cayenne pepper Combine the oysters, oyster liquor, and butter in a skillet. Cook until the edges of the oysters curl. Add the milk. Heat just to boiling. Sprinkle with the cayenne pepper, Ladle into hot bowls. Garnish with chopped fresh parsley if desired. Makes 4 1/2 cup servings. Added note, can use 1/2 the butter. Puree then add milk PER SERVING: calories - 154, carbohydrates - 10 g., protein - 14 g., fat - 7 g., sodium - 184 mg., potassium - 337 mg., cholesterol - 65 mg. Exchanges = 1 Lean Meat, 1 Milk, 1 Fat FROM: The American Diabetes Association Holiday Cookbook by Betty Wedman, M.S., R.D. copyright 1986 ----- |
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OT I don't know if I posted this before and what I am allowed to eat
"Matthew" wrote
DROOL thank you Hehe side note. Starting to come across some items you may not know to avoid. Kamoboko (Fish cake). Not on your 'allowed list'. You can see why when you read it though if you didnt know the recipe, it would 'sound fine'. ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05 Title: Japanese Kamaboko, Xxcarol Categories: Xxcarol, Japan, Seafood Yield: 8 Servings 10 oz Firm white fish, debone/skin 2 ea Egg whites 1/4 c Sake 2 tb Sugar 1 ts Salt 1/8 ts White pepper 1/3 c Cornstarch 1/2 c Dashi 1 ea Egg for eggwash, 1 ts sake Ever seen those pretty fish rolls with the pink or green exterior? This is them, sans the added food coloring. Using a food processor is almost required for this one but the Japanese use a hand type, not electric. Chop the fish to a paste then add the egg whites. Mix the sake and sugar untl the sugar is desolved then add to the fish mix. Season with the salt and pepper. Add the cornstarch to the dashi until it is disolved then add to the processor and let mix until all is well blended. Lay the fish out on a Maki-su (bamboo mat, also called sushi mat) if you have one, with a towel or cheese cloth underneath. If you dont have the mat, dont despair as it will taste the same rolled on wax paper, just not be as pretty shaped. Remove from Maki-su (or wax paper) leaving cheese cloth or towel on, and place in a steamer for 30 mins. Let cool 30-60 mins on a rack before removing outer cloth covering. Mix the egg-wash by adding the egg, teaspoon of Sake, and a pinch of sugar (food coloring too if desired), and brush this on with a pastry brush then broil a few seconds a few inches from the heat, watching to make sure it doesnt burn. Thats all! Glaze set too. From the kitchen of: xxcarol ----- |
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"Stormmee" wrote
she lkies food and recipes as much as you and i do, Lee Yeah, you, me, Granby, Matthew, and Jill are probably the main foodies here. OHH! Pan fried Gobo and Carrot! Perfect for series 3 (grin). |
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OT I don't know if I posted this before and what I am allowed to eat
"Christine BA" wrote in message ... 8.8.2010 1:41, Christina Websell kirjoitti: " Fortunately I am not in the same situation, if I lost 100 pounds I would nearly disappear. However if I was I don't think I would be brave enough to do what you have. I know I wouldn't. Lots of love and luck to get the result you want. Tweed What she said!! Then again, I could stand to lose 100 lbs... I'd be slim, but not too skinny. would you be prepared to go as far as Matthew? I'd be so scared I think I might stop eating. |
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OT I don't know if I posted this before and what I am allowed to eat
i couldn't do what he is doing, that is why i so admire him, i finally found
what works for me after a lifetime of fighting it. i had to realize*and please lets not have another big discussion on this* that calories in/used is not all there is to it, for me i had to find ways to increase my metabolic rate and cut calories so i didn't just store everything as usual, at best i had in fact lost a hundred pounds, but what i did to lose it has quit working so i am once again endeavoring to increas the m.r. and i refuse to go the drugs route atm so its really hard sometimes. Lee "Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "Christine BA" wrote in message ... 8.8.2010 1:41, Christina Websell kirjoitti: " Fortunately I am not in the same situation, if I lost 100 pounds I would nearly disappear. However if I was I don't think I would be brave enough to do what you have. I know I wouldn't. Lots of love and luck to get the result you want. Tweed What she said!! Then again, I could stand to lose 100 lbs... I'd be slim, but not too skinny. would you be prepared to go as far as Matthew? I'd be so scared I think I might stop eating. |
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OT I don't know if I posted this before and what I am allowed to eat
Christina Websell wrote:
"Christine BA" wrote in message What she said!! Then again, I could stand to lose 100 lbs... I'd be slim, but not too skinny. would you be prepared to go as far as Matthew? I'd be so scared I think I might stop eating. No way! Not gonna happen, ever. Joyce -- Cats' hearing apparatus is built to allow the human voice to easily go in one ear and out the other. -- Stephen Baker |
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OT I don't know if I posted this before and what I am allowed to eat
"Christina Websell" wrote
would you be prepared to go as far as Matthew? I'd be so scared I think I might stop eating. Everyone is built a bit differently. Matthew has actually chosen a good method with a proven decent record and to top it all off, it's fully reversable if that comes to be needed. Not everyone has a fast metabolism and some hit diet 'setpoint' so fast, they really need help and it's not just portion control. I did some reading on it and was pretty impressed with the success percentage when nothing else in the normal diet range has been effective. Please don't have the idea that Matthew is actually 'overeating' just because he likes good food. He probably ate much less than I do! |
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