Tragic Mistake

Rona Yuthasastrakosol wrote:
"Karen" wrote in message
...

Most likely realized that it was a mistake. I would require that to make

it

up to me the vet provide pamphlets on declawing in the waiting room and

stop

by out of the blue to make sure they carry it out. Phil has a pdf that

can

be printed out on his site at maxshouse.com.

Karen



That's what I was thinking, too, except I might request that the vet no
longer declaw cats, as well, and should also educate his clients of the
negative aspects of declawing. Providing a pamphlet is one method, but
speaking directly to people is another and one that is much more direct.
But I think I would probably first ask the vet what he felt would be
adequate compensation. I don't mean in terms of money, but what he felt he
should do to make up for the mistake. Sometimes it's very effective to have
the guilty party determine his own punishment--he can be much harsher than
anyone else. And he probably feels worse about the situation than anyone
else, including the owner of the cat.

I don't think money (suing or asking for monetary compensation) is really
going to help. But asking him to advocate against declawing would have a
much more beneficial outcome. I'm not sure I would lodge a formal complaint
at this stage. I would try to find out if any similar complaints had been
made about him, though. I'm starting to think everyone should check if
their vets have had complaints lodged against them. I wonder if that
information is available to the public.

Oh, I also think that the vet should be willing to cover any future problems
the cat may have that could be related to the declawing. For example, if
the cat starts peeing inappropriately, then the vet should cover the costs
of Feliway or possibly even the costs of new carpet.

rona

Hey Rona, was it you a few posts & weeks back who posted something about
not being able to get any information from IAMS about the nutrient
levels in their foods?

I have a request into them right now... I'm waiting to see if they
respond and with what information. I'll let you know what the results
are if any. I'm thinking they may ignore me since I was quite specific
with what I was looking for. DMB % analysis.

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-Joe Canuck

But now to read that each cat
had a collar on with names, the collars were removed, the wrong procedure
performed, and the wrong cat sent home with the wrong person!!!! How many
mistakes can they make? It almost sounds like they prepped several cats at
a time in the same room, which could explain how they mixed up the cats
after removing the collars.

What an outrage.

MaryL

It is very sad and also sad that the big silver tabby, apparently, was the one
intended to be declawed and now he will still have to go through that and the
vet, no doubt, will do it for free to make up to his owner for not doing it
right the first time.

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human." (Loren Eisely)

But now to read that each cat
had a collar on with names, the collars were removed, the wrong procedure
performed, and the wrong cat sent home with the wrong person!!!! How many
mistakes can they make? It almost sounds like they prepped several cats at
a time in the same room, which could explain how they mixed up the cats
after removing the collars.

What an outrage.

MaryL

It is very sad and also sad that the big silver tabby, apparently, was the one
intended to be declawed and now he will still have to go through that and the
vet, no doubt, will do it for free to make up to his owner for not doing it
right the first time.

Candace
(take the litter out before replying by e-mail)

See my cats:
http://photos.yahoo.com/maccandace

"One does not meet oneself until one catches the reflection from an eye other
than human." (Loren Eisely)

Mary wrote:

Unbelievably, my friend took two eight-month-old rescue sister tabbies
in to a Central Florida vet to be spayed, and when she returned for
her babies they had declawed one of them. The vet called tonight and
told her he will do "whatever it takes" to make this up to her. All
she can do is cry.

Ideas?

I thought maybe make his give a ton of money to a no-kill shelter--or,
she gets a lawyer and donates any funds collected. She is heartsick as
am I. These girls are inseparable, and now one of them is mutilated
forever. (And you can bet I will be letting all and everyone know the
name of this vet if he doesn't come through in a big way. Or maybe
even if he does.)



How incompetent do you have to be to declaw a cat that came in to be
spayed? I'd make him donate a bunch of money and *then* report him! I'm
so sorry for your sister's kitty. I hope to god he doesn't suffer any
more ill effects.

K

Mary wrote:

Unbelievably, my friend took two eight-month-old rescue sister tabbies
in to a Central Florida vet to be spayed, and when she returned for
her babies they had declawed one of them. The vet called tonight and
told her he will do "whatever it takes" to make this up to her. All
she can do is cry.

Ideas?

I thought maybe make his give a ton of money to a no-kill shelter--or,
she gets a lawyer and donates any funds collected. She is heartsick as
am I. These girls are inseparable, and now one of them is mutilated
forever. (And you can bet I will be letting all and everyone know the
name of this vet if he doesn't come through in a big way. Or maybe
even if he does.)



How incompetent do you have to be to declaw a cat that came in to be
spayed? I'd make him donate a bunch of money and *then* report him! I'm
so sorry for your sister's kitty. I hope to god he doesn't suffer any
more ill effects.

K

From: "MaryL" AKE-OU

"teri" wrote in message
.. .

OMG, that is horrible!!! That poor kitty! I would flip out if a vet
ever
did that to one of my cats. But I guess it's done so the only recourse
to make
this sick monster pay with money.
Sick monster??? Bit harsh you gotta admit.
More like a vet and staff who made a mistake. It shouldn't happen,
but it does happen to the best of us. But he called her, took
responsibility for his actions, and "offered to do whatever it takes
to make it up to her", which to me shows integrity.

Teri

I hope this shows integrity, as you said. On the other hand, what else
could he do other than to call her and take responsibility -- after all,
this isn't the type of mistake that would go "unnoticed." And then I just
read another message from the OP in which she says that this clinic actually
sent the wrong cat home (and they sent a large male cat home wearing her
small female cat's collar). The woman discovered it on the way home when
she looked in the carrier, then went back to get her own cat.

MaryL

My statement sick monster stands. This guy has a huge problem and should NOT
be practicing veterinarian medicine. He has mutilated Mary's friend's cat

Lauren
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Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: "MaryL" AKE-OU

"teri" wrote in message
.. .

OMG, that is horrible!!! That poor kitty! I would flip out if a vet
ever
did that to one of my cats. But I guess it's done so the only recourse
to make
this sick monster pay with money.
Sick monster??? Bit harsh you gotta admit.
More like a vet and staff who made a mistake. It shouldn't happen,
but it does happen to the best of us. But he called her, took
responsibility for his actions, and "offered to do whatever it takes
to make it up to her", which to me shows integrity.

Teri

I hope this shows integrity, as you said. On the other hand, what else
could he do other than to call her and take responsibility -- after all,
this isn't the type of mistake that would go "unnoticed." And then I just
read another message from the OP in which she says that this clinic actually
sent the wrong cat home (and they sent a large male cat home wearing her
small female cat's collar). The woman discovered it on the way home when
she looked in the carrier, then went back to get her own cat.

MaryL

My statement sick monster stands. This guy has a huge problem and should NOT
be practicing veterinarian medicine. He has mutilated Mary's friend's cat

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: pam (Mary)

The vet called tonight and
told her he will do "whatever it takes" to make this up to her. All
she can do is cry.

Ideas?

There's a surgery that is expensive where they reattach the cut tendons so
they
can at least walk normally again. They do this with big cats that are
declawed
by previous owners. A vet killed my cat by accident, I sued, won and donated
the funds to a cat rescue place. I just wanted the vet to realize he can't
get
away with accidents.

Mary, I'm so sorry to hear about your cat. To the OP, you might want to
contact the Paw Project, a wonderful organization. They work mainly with
lions, tigers, etc., but the vet is a great person and I'm sure she might be
able to help recommend something.

www.pawproject.com
Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: pam (Mary)

The vet called tonight and
told her he will do "whatever it takes" to make this up to her. All
she can do is cry.

Ideas?

There's a surgery that is expensive where they reattach the cut tendons so
they
can at least walk normally again. They do this with big cats that are
declawed
by previous owners. A vet killed my cat by accident, I sued, won and donated
the funds to a cat rescue place. I just wanted the vet to realize he can't
get
away with accidents.

Mary, I'm so sorry to hear about your cat. To the OP, you might want to
contact the Paw Project, a wonderful organization. They work mainly with
lions, tigers, etc., but the vet is a great person and I'm sure she might be
able to help recommend something.

www.pawproject.com
Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

"Joe Canuck" wrote in message
...


Hey Rona, was it you a few posts & weeks back who posted something about
not being able to get any information from IAMS about the nutrient
levels in their foods?

I have a request into them right now... I'm waiting to see if they
respond and with what information. I'll let you know what the results
are if any. I'm thinking they may ignore me since I was quite specific
with what I was looking for. DMB % analysis.

--
"Its the bugs that keep it running."
-Joe Canuck


It might have been. I remember writing to one company about DMB% analysis
and being told they didn't have those numbers and would only give me some
other numbers.

I just checked my old e-mails and it was IAMS. I had asked for DMB% for
phosporus in their canned foods and they said the nutrient density method is
"well accepted" and to some degree, implied it was more advanced than DMB%.
It seems that nutrient density numbers are all they would give out. Oh,
they wanted me to call them to get the numbers, rather than send them via
e-mail. I don't think I bothered to follow-up, since I didn't have the
background to explain why I was insisting on DMB%.

I hope you have better luck than I did! Thanks for remembering my post!

rona

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