Which human foods can cats eat?

stays pristine in non-refrigerated conditions for very long? Also - no
animals should ever eat cooked foods. Have you ever seen a stove in a
forest?

I wonder how many mice in the wild are exposed to E-coli. Sorry, but
people here died from E-coli. And I wasn't impressed with the
inspection system. They showed it on tv, and the inspectors touched
each piece of meat and didn't sanitize in between. So, if they touched
one bad one, they passed it along to all the rest. And there was no
lab testing.

So, no, I do NOT give raw meat to my cats. I haven't seen anything
that shows they are immune to all the crap we must cook to kill. The
food we buy at the store is not the same stuff you find in the wild.

If you are going to feed a raw diet, you need to find a supplier who
actually tests the meat and guarantees that it safe. I wouldn't feed
raw meat from the grocery store.

Excellent points. Know your sources.

In ,
Ricky stated unanimously:
stays pristine in non-refrigerated conditions for very long? Also - no
animals should ever eat cooked foods. Have you ever seen a stove in a
forest?

I wonder how many mice in the wild are exposed to E-coli. Sorry, but
people here died from E-coli. And I wasn't impressed with the
inspection system. They showed it on tv, and the inspectors touched
each piece of meat and didn't sanitize in between. So, if they touched
one bad one, they passed it along to all the rest. And there was no
lab testing.
So, no, I do NOT give raw meat to my cats. I haven't seen anything
that shows they are immune to all the crap we must cook to kill. The
food we buy at the store is not the same stuff you find in the wild.
If you are going to feed a raw diet, you need to find a supplier who
actually tests the meat and guarantees that it safe. I wouldn't feed
raw meat from the grocery store.

I've been feeding a raw diet for 5 years now, and never have my cats
gotten sick from it. In fact, they are thriving on it. I am also on a
list where we have almost 1,000 members and I don't recall one instance
of a cat becoming sick from raw meat.
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe

I read the same thing from raw foodists over and over. The benefits so
far outweigh the disadvantages (food poisoning or simliar) that its
a no brainer. Also the raw food undoubtedly boots the immune system
of the animal as well to better withstand sloppy food handling and
other manmade introduced food problems.


More junk medicine. Please define "boosts the immune system" and a medical
research source for your assertion.

In the meantime, from George Carlin's "You are all Diseased"

"My immune system is equipped with the biological equivalent of fully
automatic military assault rifles, with night vision and laser scopes. And,
we have recently acquired phosphorus grenades, cluster bombs, and anti
personnel fragmentation mines. So, when my white blood cells are on patrol,
reeking law and order in my bloodstream, seeking out strangers and other
undesirables, if they see any, ANY suspicious looking germs, of any kind,
they don't **** around! They whip out the weapons, they wax the muther
****er, and deposit the unlucky fellow directly into my colon! There's no
nonsense! There's no Miranda warning, there's none of that three strikes
your out ****. first offense, BAM. into the colon ya go! "







:

In ,
rpl stated unanimously:
Philip wrote:
In news equalizerequalizer stated unanimously:

On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 05:08:00 GMT, "Philip"
wrote:


In ,
equalizerequalizer stated unanimously:

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:41:57 -0700, "Ricky"
wrote:

It sounds quite repulsive, but I wonder if anybody breeds them for
their cats? Or rabbits or squirrels for dogs? Wouldn't it be great
to have a big aquaruim where the frisky fish do nothing but copulate
and propagate? Ah, it only it was so easy.



I've thought about breeding mice for cat food, but, alas, my cats just
kill them, they don't eat them.

http://web.newsguy.com/equalizer/mouse_1.jpg
http://web.newsguy.com/equalizer/mouse_3.jpg
http://web.newsguy.com/equalizer/mouse_4.jpg


Maybe if you "cleaned and gutted" them and presented them in a "kitty
stew" .... LOL



Blender?


Ahh! Just the soft parts or would you include the skin and skeleton?

everything of course... roughage in the fur.

I would exclude most skin and fur. Wouldn't want the cat to start yakking
up mouse balls.

Which human foods can cats eat? Not as exclusive diet, but once
in a
while, without harming their health.

Its not "human" that matters. Its natural and non-processed.
Look at
your cat food's ingredients. They make it so it won't spoil in
non-refrigerated conditions. Do you know of any food besides
perhaps
nuts and sees that stays pristine in non-refrigerated conditions
for
very long?

If it's canned, plenty of foods.

Canned foods are crap. Why not buy meat/fish fresh? Too busy to
feed
your pet natural food?

There are numerous nutrients (taurine in particular) that is woefully
deficient in muscle and organ tissue.

http://www.hdw-inc.com/healthtaurine.htm

"In the wild, rodents formed a large part of the feline diet, and the
rodents had significant levels of taurine in their brains. When we
began
to
domesticate cats and feed them commercial cat foods instead of their
wild
diets, taurine deficiency started appearing. This was of great
concern,
especially in the 1970's, when it was proven that many commercial cat
foods
on the market at that time contained an inadequate amount of taurine.
Cats
are different from other animals in that they cannot make enough
taurine
internally to meet their needs, and they must have enough taurine
supplied
to them in their food. Since these studies came out, most major pet
food
companies revised their pet food formulas to include taurine.
Interestingly
enough, not all taurine is equal, and some commercial foods need to
have
even more taurine added to their formulas to allow for proper feline
absorption and utilization of the taurine in their foods. "

Many slim people die way before their time of heart problems and
cancers.
I wan't trying to insult people - just trying to open some eyes.
Often
others in our lives (even animals) can direct us to better ways of
living.

You are MISAPPLYING nutritional needs. You have a vegetarian agenda,
that
is clear.

I never once said to feed a cat any vegetarian food or steer clear of
meat
products. Of course I'm a raw foodist vegan - but a carnivorous animal
needs the freshest carnivorous food. I'm saying keep it fresh and
natural.
No processed foods, no fillers. (No stoves in the wilds!)

No stoves in the wild?
Ever heard of fire?

Since when do animals cook with fire?

Philip wrote:
In ,
rpl stated unanimously:

Philip wrote:

In news equalizerequalizer stated unanimously:


On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 05:08:00 GMT, "Philip"
wrote:



In ,
equalizerequalizer stated unanimously:


On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:41:57 -0700, "Ricky"
wrote:


It sounds quite repulsive, but I wonder if anybody breeds them for
their cats? Or rabbits or squirrels for dogs? Wouldn't it be great
to have a big aquaruim where the frisky fish do nothing but copulate
and propagate? Ah, it only it was so easy.



I've thought about breeding mice for cat food, but, alas, my cats just
kill them, they don't eat them.

http://web.newsguy.com/equalizer/mouse_1.jpg
http://web.newsguy.com/equalizer/mouse_3.jpg
http://web.newsguy.com/equalizer/mouse_4.jpg


Maybe if you "cleaned and gutted" them and presented them in a "kitty
stew" .... LOL



Blender?


Ahh! Just the soft parts or would you include the skin and skeleton?

everything of course... roughage in the fur.


I would exclude most skin and fur. Wouldn't want the cat to start yakking
up mouse balls.



ow!!! owowowowowowowowow

"Philip" wrote in message
hlink.net...
In oups.com,
whitershadeofpale stated unanimously:
Ricky wrote:
Which human foods can cats eat? Not as exclusive diet, but once in
a
while, without harming their health.

Its not "human" that matters. Its natural and non-processed. Look
at your cat food's ingredients. They make it so it won't spoil in
non-refrigerated conditions. Do you know of any food besides
perhaps
nuts and sees that stays pristine in non-refrigerated conditions
for
very long?

If it's canned, plenty of foods.

Canned foods are crap. Why not buy meat/fish fresh? Too busy to
feed
your pet natural food?

There are numerous nutrients (taurine in particular) that is woefully
deficient in muscle and organ tissue.

http://www.hdw-inc.com/healthtaurine.htm

"In the wild, rodents formed a large part of the feline diet, and the
rodents had significant levels of taurine in their brains. When we
began to domesticate cats and feed them commercial cat foods instead
of
their wild diets, taurine deficiency started appearing. This was of
great concern, especially in the 1970's, when it was proven that many
commercial cat foods on the market at that time contained an
inadequate
amount of taurine. Cats are different from other animals in that they
cannot make enough taurine internally to meet their needs, and they
must have enough taurine supplied to them in their food. Since these
studies came out, most major pet food companies revised their pet food
formulas to include taurine. Interestingly enough, not all taurine is
equal, and some commercial foods need to have even more taurine added
to their formulas to allow for proper feline absorption and
utilization
of the taurine in their foods. "

Many slim people die way before their time of heart problems and
cancers. I wan't trying to insult people - just trying to open some
eyes. Often others in our lives (even animals) can direct us to
better ways of living.

You are MISAPPLYING nutritional needs. You have a vegetarian agenda,
that is clear.

I never once said to feed a cat any vegetarian food or steer clear of
meat products. Of course I'm a raw foodist vegan - but a carnivorous
animal needs the freshest carnivorous food. I'm saying keep it fresh
and natural. No processed foods, no fillers. (No stoves in the wilds!)


No stoves in the wild?
Ever heard of fire?


Hey ... in the heat of a summer desert, you can cook on an egg on a rock!
Road Kill left on the pavement for a couple of hours is "cooked." LOL





It's nature's way of providing buzzards with a good hot meal

"Ricky" wrote in message
...
Which human foods can cats eat? Not as exclusive diet, but once
in a
while, without harming their health.

Its not "human" that matters. Its natural and non-processed.
Look at
your cat food's ingredients. They make it so it won't spoil in
non-refrigerated conditions. Do you know of any food besides
perhaps
nuts and sees that stays pristine in non-refrigerated conditions
for
very long?

If it's canned, plenty of foods.

Canned foods are crap. Why not buy meat/fish fresh? Too busy to
feed
your pet natural food?

There are numerous nutrients (taurine in particular) that is
woefully
deficient in muscle and organ tissue.

http://www.hdw-inc.com/healthtaurine.htm

"In the wild, rodents formed a large part of the feline diet, and
the
rodents had significant levels of taurine in their brains. When we
began
to
domesticate cats and feed them commercial cat foods instead of their
wild
diets, taurine deficiency started appearing. This was of great
concern,
especially in the 1970's, when it was proven that many commercial
cat
foods
on the market at that time contained an inadequate amount of
taurine.
Cats
are different from other animals in that they cannot make enough
taurine
internally to meet their needs, and they must have enough taurine
supplied
to them in their food. Since these studies came out, most major pet
food
companies revised their pet food formulas to include taurine.
Interestingly
enough, not all taurine is equal, and some commercial foods need to
have
even more taurine added to their formulas to allow for proper feline
absorption and utilization of the taurine in their foods. "

Many slim people die way before their time of heart problems and
cancers.
I wan't trying to insult people - just trying to open some eyes.
Often
others in our lives (even animals) can direct us to better ways of
living.

You are MISAPPLYING nutritional needs. You have a vegetarian agenda,
that
is clear.

I never once said to feed a cat any vegetarian food or steer clear of
meat
products. Of course I'm a raw foodist vegan - but a carnivorous
animal
needs the freshest carnivorous food. I'm saying keep it fresh and
natural.
No processed foods, no fillers. (No stoves in the wilds!)

No stoves in the wild?
Ever heard of fire?

Since when do animals cook with fire?



I do!

Didn't anyone tell you? I'm not human.
I'm one of the last of the Reptilian Rocketeers
I have a spaceship and stuff
I like my cabbage pit cooked, with hickory.
Ok ok, so I'm the exception

"Philip" wrote in message
hlink.net...
In ,
Ricky stated unanimously:
Which human foods can cats eat? Not as exclusive diet, but once in
a
while, without harming their health.

Its not "human" that matters. Its natural and non-processed. Look
at
your cat food's ingredients. They make it so it won't spoil in
non-refrigerated conditions. Do you know of any food besides
perhaps
nuts and sees that stays pristine in non-refrigerated conditions for
very long?

If it's canned, plenty of foods.

Canned foods are crap. Why not buy meat/fish fresh? Too busy to feed
your pet natural food?

There are numerous nutrients (taurine in particular) that is woefully
deficient in muscle and organ tissue.

http://www.hdw-inc.com/healthtaurine.htm

"In the wild, rodents formed a large part of the feline diet, and the
rodents had significant levels of taurine in their brains. When we
began
to domesticate cats and feed them commercial cat foods instead of their
wild diets, taurine deficiency started appearing. This was of great
concern, especially in the 1970's, when it was proven that many
commercial cat foods on the market at that time contained an inadequate
amount of taurine. Cats are different from other animals in that they
cannot make enough taurine internally to meet their needs, and they
must
have enough taurine supplied to them in their food. Since these studies
came out, most major pet food companies revised their pet food formulas
to include taurine. Interestingly enough, not all taurine is equal, and
some commercial foods need to have even more taurine added to their
formulas to allow for proper feline absorption and utilization of the
taurine in their foods. "

Many slim people die way before their time of heart problems and
cancers. I wan't trying to insult people - just trying to open some
eyes. Often others in our lives (even animals) can direct us to
better
ways of living.

You are MISAPPLYING nutritional needs. You have a vegetarian agenda,
that is clear.

I never once said to feed a cat any vegetarian food or steer clear of
meat
products. Of course I'm a raw foodist vegan - but a carnivorous animal
needs the freshest carnivorous food. I'm saying keep it fresh and
natural. No processed foods, no fillers. (No stoves in the wilds!)

YOU have a vegetarian agenda regardless of what you have said. Emphasis on
grains was a big tip off. It is junk medicine to project your agenda on a
true, dedicated carnivore. Again, I invite you to study the mouth of any
cat
and then compare that to a cow or sheep.



Cat spit is fatal to birds

whitershadeofpale wrote:



Cat spit is fatal to birds

cite?

pat

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:36:54 -0700, "Ricky"
wrote:

Which human foods can cats eat? Not as exclusive diet, but once in a
while, without harming their health.

Its not "human" that matters. Its natural and non-processed. Look at
your
cat food's ingredients. They make it so it won't spoil in
non-refrigerated
conditions. Do you know of any food besides perhaps nuts and sees that
stays pristine in non-refrigerated conditions for very long?

If it's canned, plenty of foods.

Canned foods are crap. Why not buy meat/fish fresh? Too busy to feed your
pet natural food?

You might want to ask about my own diet before you criticize what I
feed my cat.

Canned tuna is one of my favorites, and from what I've heard there is
less chemical waste in canned tuna than thre iss in farmed tuna.


Also - no
animals should ever eat cooked foods. Have you ever seen a stove in a
forest? Its a natural thing for animals to be fast and lean to catch
their
foods. So fat animals will naturally lose their excess weight in the
wilds.
Its absurd for domestic animals to be heavy. Of course its absurd for
people to be heavy...but that's another story on modern society's rapidly
declining health.

A casual glance at our fridge shows: cooked shrimp, baked chicken, ham,
bacon, sausage, canned tuna, salmon. Oh, and I just scambled some eggs
for myself.

Ham, bacon, sausage - the worst meats one could possible ingest.


Yeah, but they're still good food.

Only good for heart surgeons.

Nha - bacon is just abot the best food imaginable!


What do you eat? leaves from tomato plants or something?


Filled enough with enough preservatives to kill ya - slowly!

We're all gonna die someday and I should probably worry more about the
cigarette I'm smoking than the bacon I had on my sandwich at lunch
today and the day before that.

Well I was talking to people that care about how long and the quality of
their life.


You don't think I care about the quality of my life?

I smoke and I love it! Odds are I'll live longer than you - if
genetics have anything to do with it. 3 out of 4 of my grandparents
smoke and they lived way too long - into their late 80s.

The one who didn't smoke is still alive, buit she has serious issues
regarding her quality of life. It's sad that anyone should have to
suffer that way and I ask you if you think she is better off for not
smoking!

Quality of life indeed - WTF do you know about that? have you lived?
I mean really lived??!?!?!!?!?


One thing I am not though is overweight.

Mainy slim people die way before their time of heart problems and cancers.


que sera, sera (flame me if I forgot an accent mark or misspelled it -
you should be able to grasp the sentiment)

I wan't trying to insult people - just trying to open some eyes.

Open your own eyes first


Often
others in our lives (even animals) can direct us to better ways of living.