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Hi Steve,
You say this is if you can speak for Hill's with certainty? Just curious as I'm always keeping an ear out for information regarding quality of pet foods. Cheers, Purplecat "Steve Crane" wrote in message om... (kate) wrote in message . com... Some brands, including Iams, Eukanuba, and Science Diet, fund cruel animal experiments on cats and dogs at universities. They give to good causes as well, but, wow... Some of the pet food companies which have healthier ingredients are Petguard, Natura, and some others (cant remember) I cannot speak for the others but such allegations about Hill's Science Diet are completely without any foundation in fact whatsoever. They are utterly in error. Hill's funds NO invasive research of any kind. Neither are there any of the ingredients in any Science Diet product as indicated in the note above. Utter rubbish! |
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You obviously didn't catch the news story about the truck that overturned on
the way to the pet food factory. Do a little research, dear. "GAUBSTER2" wrote in message ... I've seen the book and don't fall for her scare tactics. Most of the research that she did was in the 60s and 70s. Most of what she alleges in her book is illegal (at least here in the US) nowadays. The version I read was recently updated. That doesn't change what I said. Almost all of the major brands include euthanized cats and dogs in their formula Not true. It is illegal here in the US. I don't think it is enforced or checked on at all, though. What makes you think that? Do you like to believe in scare tactics? The FDA enforces the regulations here in the US. I'm sure if anybody could pinpoint a violation, they would be on it in a heartbeat--especially groups like PETA, etc. I'll let you in on a little secret. Once a pet food ingredient enters a pet food plant (regardless of it's quality), it is automatically designated as "unfit for human consumption". I am not an unreasonable person, but the concept of a diseased animal, a cow with mad cow disease, etc, being fed to my cat, does concern me. Diseased parts aren't used. That's just more spin that sells books (and whatever else). As for mad cow, that's being watched VERRRRY closely. So, it is being enforced. IAMS/Eukanuba has been in the press for allegations of this sort. Science Diet doesn't do the types of things that she alleges. If you are concerned, call the companies in questions and she what they have to say. Apparently many of these test are kep under wraps. She got her reports by interviewing scientists at the schools. I suppose it could be untrue, but it is still disturbing, esp. reading the listings of the exact experiments which were conducted Again, how many years ago was that and if it was really a concern, why didn't she do her part and name names and places and times? Hearsay may sell books but it doesn't help much of anything else. Ask yourself what is more important--whether or not the food meets the nutrient profile for that particular lifestage or whether the ingredients "sound" appetizing. A lot of "all natural" foods have artifical preservatives in them. No, its the prospect of a cat or dog being unnwittingly forced into cannibalism, or eating diseased animal parts that scares me. Then feel free to let yourself be scared. These things DON'T happen in the US---especially if you're buying a better product (such as a Hill's product). SIGH But I understand some people would rather wring their hands and be scared than separate truth from fiction. |
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You obviously didn't catch the news story about the truck that overturned on
the way to the pet food factory. Do a little research, dear. "GAUBSTER2" wrote in message ... I've seen the book and don't fall for her scare tactics. Most of the research that she did was in the 60s and 70s. Most of what she alleges in her book is illegal (at least here in the US) nowadays. The version I read was recently updated. That doesn't change what I said. Almost all of the major brands include euthanized cats and dogs in their formula Not true. It is illegal here in the US. I don't think it is enforced or checked on at all, though. What makes you think that? Do you like to believe in scare tactics? The FDA enforces the regulations here in the US. I'm sure if anybody could pinpoint a violation, they would be on it in a heartbeat--especially groups like PETA, etc. I'll let you in on a little secret. Once a pet food ingredient enters a pet food plant (regardless of it's quality), it is automatically designated as "unfit for human consumption". I am not an unreasonable person, but the concept of a diseased animal, a cow with mad cow disease, etc, being fed to my cat, does concern me. Diseased parts aren't used. That's just more spin that sells books (and whatever else). As for mad cow, that's being watched VERRRRY closely. So, it is being enforced. IAMS/Eukanuba has been in the press for allegations of this sort. Science Diet doesn't do the types of things that she alleges. If you are concerned, call the companies in questions and she what they have to say. Apparently many of these test are kep under wraps. She got her reports by interviewing scientists at the schools. I suppose it could be untrue, but it is still disturbing, esp. reading the listings of the exact experiments which were conducted Again, how many years ago was that and if it was really a concern, why didn't she do her part and name names and places and times? Hearsay may sell books but it doesn't help much of anything else. Ask yourself what is more important--whether or not the food meets the nutrient profile for that particular lifestage or whether the ingredients "sound" appetizing. A lot of "all natural" foods have artifical preservatives in them. No, its the prospect of a cat or dog being unnwittingly forced into cannibalism, or eating diseased animal parts that scares me. Then feel free to let yourself be scared. These things DON'T happen in the US---especially if you're buying a better product (such as a Hill's product). SIGH But I understand some people would rather wring their hands and be scared than separate truth from fiction. |
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I didn't catch this. When/where did it happen? I've looked but can't find
anything about it on the internet. Would like to read about it if I can. Thanks, Purplecat "Betsy" -0 wrote in message ... You obviously didn't catch the news story about the truck that overturned on the way to the pet food factory. Do a little research, dear. "GAUBSTER2" wrote in message ... I've seen the book and don't fall for her scare tactics. Most of the research that she did was in the 60s and 70s. Most of what she alleges in her book is illegal (at least here in the US) nowadays. The version I read was recently updated. That doesn't change what I said. Almost all of the major brands include euthanized cats and dogs in their formula Not true. It is illegal here in the US. I don't think it is enforced or checked on at all, though. What makes you think that? Do you like to believe in scare tactics? The FDA enforces the regulations here in the US. I'm sure if anybody could pinpoint a violation, they would be on it in a heartbeat--especially groups like PETA, etc. I'll let you in on a little secret. Once a pet food ingredient enters a pet food plant (regardless of it's quality), it is automatically designated as "unfit for human consumption". I am not an unreasonable person, but the concept of a diseased animal, a cow with mad cow disease, etc, being fed to my cat, does concern me. Diseased parts aren't used. That's just more spin that sells books (and whatever else). As for mad cow, that's being watched VERRRRY closely. So, it is being enforced. IAMS/Eukanuba has been in the press for allegations of this sort. Science Diet doesn't do the types of things that she alleges. If you are concerned, call the companies in questions and she what they have to say. Apparently many of these test are kep under wraps. She got her reports by interviewing scientists at the schools. I suppose it could be untrue, but it is still disturbing, esp. reading the listings of the exact experiments which were conducted Again, how many years ago was that and if it was really a concern, why didn't she do her part and name names and places and times? Hearsay may sell books but it doesn't help much of anything else. Ask yourself what is more important--whether or not the food meets the nutrient profile for that particular lifestage or whether the ingredients "sound" appetizing. A lot of "all natural" foods have artifical preservatives in them. No, its the prospect of a cat or dog being unnwittingly forced into cannibalism, or eating diseased animal parts that scares me. Then feel free to let yourself be scared. These things DON'T happen in the US---especially if you're buying a better product (such as a Hill's product). SIGH But I understand some people would rather wring their hands and be scared than separate truth from fiction. |
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I didn't catch this. When/where did it happen? I've looked but can't find
anything about it on the internet. Would like to read about it if I can. Thanks, Purplecat "Betsy" -0 wrote in message ... You obviously didn't catch the news story about the truck that overturned on the way to the pet food factory. Do a little research, dear. "GAUBSTER2" wrote in message ... I've seen the book and don't fall for her scare tactics. Most of the research that she did was in the 60s and 70s. Most of what she alleges in her book is illegal (at least here in the US) nowadays. The version I read was recently updated. That doesn't change what I said. Almost all of the major brands include euthanized cats and dogs in their formula Not true. It is illegal here in the US. I don't think it is enforced or checked on at all, though. What makes you think that? Do you like to believe in scare tactics? The FDA enforces the regulations here in the US. I'm sure if anybody could pinpoint a violation, they would be on it in a heartbeat--especially groups like PETA, etc. I'll let you in on a little secret. Once a pet food ingredient enters a pet food plant (regardless of it's quality), it is automatically designated as "unfit for human consumption". I am not an unreasonable person, but the concept of a diseased animal, a cow with mad cow disease, etc, being fed to my cat, does concern me. Diseased parts aren't used. That's just more spin that sells books (and whatever else). As for mad cow, that's being watched VERRRRY closely. So, it is being enforced. IAMS/Eukanuba has been in the press for allegations of this sort. Science Diet doesn't do the types of things that she alleges. If you are concerned, call the companies in questions and she what they have to say. Apparently many of these test are kep under wraps. She got her reports by interviewing scientists at the schools. I suppose it could be untrue, but it is still disturbing, esp. reading the listings of the exact experiments which were conducted Again, how many years ago was that and if it was really a concern, why didn't she do her part and name names and places and times? Hearsay may sell books but it doesn't help much of anything else. Ask yourself what is more important--whether or not the food meets the nutrient profile for that particular lifestage or whether the ingredients "sound" appetizing. A lot of "all natural" foods have artifical preservatives in them. No, its the prospect of a cat or dog being unnwittingly forced into cannibalism, or eating diseased animal parts that scares me. Then feel free to let yourself be scared. These things DON'T happen in the US---especially if you're buying a better product (such as a Hill's product). SIGH But I understand some people would rather wring their hands and be scared than separate truth from fiction. |
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I didn't catch this. When/where did it happen? I've looked but can't find
anything about it on the internet. Would like to read about it if I can. Thanks, Purplecat Me, too, Purplecat. I've never heard about the overturned pet food truck, and would like to read the article. sherry |
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I didn't catch this. When/where did it happen? I've looked but can't find
anything about it on the internet. Would like to read about it if I can. Thanks, Purplecat Me, too, Purplecat. I've never heard about the overturned pet food truck, and would like to read the article. sherry |
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From: "Betsy" -0
Date: 8/11/03 10:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: You obviously didn't catch the news story about the truck that overturned on the way to the pet food factory. Do a little research, dear. Yeah, where was it? Time, place, city, state, that kind of thing. Which "pet food factory" was it going to? Was it really a "pet food factory" or something else? What foods do they make, etc?? Lots of times people jump to conclusions when they don't have any of the facts. |
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From: "Betsy" -0
Date: 8/11/03 10:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: You obviously didn't catch the news story about the truck that overturned on the way to the pet food factory. Do a little research, dear. Yeah, where was it? Time, place, city, state, that kind of thing. Which "pet food factory" was it going to? Was it really a "pet food factory" or something else? What foods do they make, etc?? Lots of times people jump to conclusions when they don't have any of the facts. |
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I didn't catch this. When/where did it happen? I've looked but can't find
anything about it on the internet. Would like to read about it if I can. Thanks, Purplecat Me, too, Purplecat. I've never heard about the overturned pet food truck, and would like to read the article. sherry It probably never happened. I suspect that it was made up. Wouldn't have proven anything even if it did happen. There are too many people out there just waiting to be offended or scared these days. |
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