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Old October 20th 03, 04:03 PM
GAUBSTER2
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This very is interesting. Science Diet´s main marketing strategy is to
scare people about the level of phosphorus in other foods because the
cat may be in the early stages of kidney disease and this "excess
phosphorus," according to them, will add to kidney damage.


It's not a marketing strategy, it's science and research--something you
apparently don't know anything about.

So how come
is it ok to feed S/D if S/D should not be fed to a cat with kidney
problems?


s/d should NOT be fed to healthy cats that don't have any urinary problems.
Period. Don't go trying to put words in people's mouths....
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Old October 20th 03, 04:03 PM
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This very is interesting. Science Diet´s main marketing strategy is to
scare people about the level of phosphorus in other foods because the
cat may be in the early stages of kidney disease and this "excess
phosphorus," according to them, will add to kidney damage.


It's not a marketing strategy, it's science and research--something you
apparently don't know anything about.

So how come
is it ok to feed S/D if S/D should not be fed to a cat with kidney
problems?


s/d should NOT be fed to healthy cats that don't have any urinary problems.
Period. Don't go trying to put words in people's mouths....
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Old October 20th 03, 05:22 PM
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"Liz" wrote in message
om...
(Albert Pike) wrote in message

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Did the vet send the stone or crystal to a lab to know what it was?


It was crystals .I believe it was a struvite - hence the struvite-
dissolution diet ?

I agree that it doesn't seem right to give a healthy cat S/D. Neither
seems to fancy the dry S/D that is left out, anyway. The only thing
the vet said was that it was OK for the healthy cat to eat S/D as long
as he did not have heart or kidney problems (which he doesn't).


This very is interesting. Science Diet´s main marketing strategy is to
scare people


Not too hypocritical are you? Since scare tactics, rumors and innuendoes
are your specialty....


about the level of phosphorus in other foods because the
cat may be in the early stages of kidney disease


...and rightly so. What is the benefit of excess phosphorus, huh. "Wiz Liz?


and this "excess
phosphorus," according to them, will add to kidney damage. So how come
is it ok to feed S/D if S/D should not be fed to a cat with kidney
problems? What if the cat *is* in the early stages of kidney disease?
How contradictory!


Its not contradictory, "Wiz Liz"... Do you understand the concept of "risk
vs benefit"?

s/d is formulated to dissolve *existing* struvite crystals and uroliths
that can obstruct the urethra resulting in acute renal failure and *death*
in a very short time... which is tad more serious and immediate than early
stage chronic renal failure.



I think you are better off getting him on a canned diet of whatever
brand you feel is best for him than any dry food.


This is *another* example of your *dangerous* and *deadly* advice! Did you
not read:

"This food was prescribed for my cat who just had a urinary blockage"?

You **should not**, nor are you qualified to advise a person to take his
cat off of a prescription diet - *especially* a cat that just had a urethral
obstruction removed and probably still has crystals!

I seriously hope Albert *ignores* your *dangerous* and *deadly* advice.


An acidified dry
diet may result in calcium oxalate stones down the road


...and a struvite urethral obstruction can kill the cat *now* - and almost
did.

s/d is a *short-term* therapy -- You should at least know something about
the food you're bad-mouthing....




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Old October 20th 03, 05:22 PM
Phil P.
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"Liz" wrote in message
om...
(Albert Pike) wrote in message

. com...
Did the vet send the stone or crystal to a lab to know what it was?


It was crystals .I believe it was a struvite - hence the struvite-
dissolution diet ?

I agree that it doesn't seem right to give a healthy cat S/D. Neither
seems to fancy the dry S/D that is left out, anyway. The only thing
the vet said was that it was OK for the healthy cat to eat S/D as long
as he did not have heart or kidney problems (which he doesn't).


This very is interesting. Science Diet´s main marketing strategy is to
scare people


Not too hypocritical are you? Since scare tactics, rumors and innuendoes
are your specialty....


about the level of phosphorus in other foods because the
cat may be in the early stages of kidney disease


...and rightly so. What is the benefit of excess phosphorus, huh. "Wiz Liz?


and this "excess
phosphorus," according to them, will add to kidney damage. So how come
is it ok to feed S/D if S/D should not be fed to a cat with kidney
problems? What if the cat *is* in the early stages of kidney disease?
How contradictory!


Its not contradictory, "Wiz Liz"... Do you understand the concept of "risk
vs benefit"?

s/d is formulated to dissolve *existing* struvite crystals and uroliths
that can obstruct the urethra resulting in acute renal failure and *death*
in a very short time... which is tad more serious and immediate than early
stage chronic renal failure.



I think you are better off getting him on a canned diet of whatever
brand you feel is best for him than any dry food.


This is *another* example of your *dangerous* and *deadly* advice! Did you
not read:

"This food was prescribed for my cat who just had a urinary blockage"?

You **should not**, nor are you qualified to advise a person to take his
cat off of a prescription diet - *especially* a cat that just had a urethral
obstruction removed and probably still has crystals!

I seriously hope Albert *ignores* your *dangerous* and *deadly* advice.


An acidified dry
diet may result in calcium oxalate stones down the road


...and a struvite urethral obstruction can kill the cat *now* - and almost
did.

s/d is a *short-term* therapy -- You should at least know something about
the food you're bad-mouthing....




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Old October 20th 03, 09:38 PM
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Prescription Diet c/d-s (which will
shortly change names to just plain c/d)


It seems like just yesterday that they added the 's'. What are they
doing with c/d-o? Or are they following the lead of IVD and Waltham's
and creating a combination urinary diet?


My friend (the vet) tells me that c/d-oxl is going to be renamed x/d. Supposed
to be less confusion that way?? As for IVD and Waltham....it's really not
possible to have a "one size fits all" approach to effectively manage FLUTD.
BTW, Hill's is the leader and everybody else follows THEM. When they can't
compete, they try a different tactic such as claiming to manage both types of
stones (struvite and calcium oxalate) w/ one diet.
 




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