[OT] Makeup

Cat Cosmetics has a forum with tips and Q&A, and lots of application advice
that seems to apply to their products can can really be done with similar
types of stuff.

ELF Cosmetics (www.eyeslipsface.com) is full of tips based of what kind of
style you're looking for; click on the "looks" link. They do a great
step-by-step detailing of how-to. And don't be fooled by price. They're
dirt-cheap, but great quality.

Believe it or not, Walmart.com. I don't shop there, but they have a nice
bare-bones list of helpful hints that seems to change every few days. Also
there's Beautysecrets101.com, and there's a lot of advice; but it's full of
ads!

Try also www.newyorkcolor.com. They make the best color on earth, Brandy
Sparkle lipstick.

Some quickies from Product Junkie Baha:

If you use nothing else, keep a clear lipgloss, eyeliner and mascara in
your desk or bag. Just that little bit will give you a pulled-together
look.

Best shadows for green eyes: wines, mauves, purples
Blue eyes: shades of brown
Brown eyes: lilac, lavender, blue (just steer clear of those overfrosted,
metallic blues, regardless of eye color; you'll look like an old Babcia who
shleps off to Bingo night in a seven-color polyester pantsuit and a
one-color polyester wig! ;-) )
Hazel eyes: greens, bronze, gold
If ever in doubt, you can't go wrong with taupe or medium-gray shades.

Wine and berry-colored lipstick or lipgloss will make your teeth look
whiter.

Put on blush after the rest of your makeup, and always start with less than
you think you need. Natural sunlight has a way of accentuating rouge, and
not always to the positive if you're heavy-handed. If you're going for a
very dramatic eye look, keep the cheeks and lips demure; and if you're
going for vixen lips, use a pale shadow and very light blush.

A bronzer will give you a nice natural bit of color without looking like an
overdone Vogue model; just watch how you put it on. Use a big, fat, fluffy
brush; most of the time, if they come with a tiny brush, you look like you
have orange stripes on your face. A bronzer that makes you look orange is
icky. Look for one that has a bit of rosiness as well as tan; otherwise,
fluff on the bronzer where the sun usually hits the face, then put a little
tiny bit of blush on the apples of the cheeks and make sure you blend the
edges!

Origins makes a gel blush called Pinch Your Cheeks, and it is one of the
best around; it stains rather than lies on the skin, so it'll wear like
iron in the worst summer humidity. It's a small tube but don't be fooled. I
have one that's still going strong after eight months, because you don't
need to reapply it every couple of hours. If you use a gel blush (also try
the lip & cheek stain from The Body Shop--God's gift to women in a hurry)
blend quickly on the apples of the cheek; it should look like you just went
for a nice walk on a summer day, and not be drawn up toward the temples
like you do with a powder blush. Also, if you use a gel go with bare,
moisturized skin or tinted moisturizer instead of foundation; it'll get
streaky otherwise.

Expensive is not always better. Revlon has the best color selection for
lipstick and it wears better than many you find in a store that doesn't
carry groceries on the side. L'Oreal owns Lancome. If you like Lancome
Juicy Tubes gloss, try L'Oreal Colourjuice; it's the same thing. L'Oreal
eye makeup is also supreme quality. Estee Lauder owns Jane Cosmetics as
well as Clinique; you'll find at the drugstore the exact counterpart of a
new Clinique bronzer for a third of the price (Jane Tahiti, it has a touch
of pink along with the tan and it's lovely.)

Consider products that do multiple duty: the lip & cheek stain from The
Body Shop; Clarins Multi-Blush for eyes, lips and cheeks; Stila Convertible
Color; Jelly Pong Pong Primp Stick, Ramy Beauty Therapy Multiples or Cream
Quads, Nars The Multiple (at Beauty.com) or Whiskers blush from Cat
Cosmetics (which doubles beautifully as eyeshadow) all can get you done and
out the door in less time than it takes to make a Pop Tart and put on your
pumps. They also look less Vogue if you want to look groomed, not over the
top.

Sorry I went on like a freak. I'm just a make-up freak. And just so I don't
get accused of being *way* OT, my supermodel beauty queen Roxie loves to
bat my compacts and hair frackies around like hockey pucks!

Blessed be,
Baha

CatNipped wrote:

Watch your local department stores to see when one might have a make-up
specialist doing "make-overs" - or make an appointment with one of the
salesgirls if there won't be a specialist there for a while. They can show
you how to apply make-up best suited to your face and features. But *DON'T*
get talked into buying any of the high priced items - there have been many
studies done that found that high priced department store make-up is no
better than the drug store variety, but they cost about 10 times as much.


Amen. The saleslady can be your friend, but she can also be your worst
nightmare. They are there to help, but their primary purpose is, of course to
sell their specific line. Also, don't let them trip you up in the giveaways that
the department store lines always do--you know, the gifts-with-purchase. You
might end up buying that godawful orange blush someone pimped on you so you
could end up with a free shoddy handbag containing a nail polish and another
godawful orange blush. Not all of them are that bad but some people will step on
their grandmothers' faces to make a commission. And not all the promos are that
bad. Just be wise and go for what you need, or else you'll end up a pathetic
product junkie like me, and we have no 12 step programs for makeup!

Blessed be,
Baha

wrote:

Very good advice! Older people with too much makeup on just look plain
creepy.
The creepiest thing of all are people who use lip liner that's way
darker than their lipstick. Gahhh.
I did discover after being sick that a little makeup makes me look less
dead. I'd brush on a little blush, and put on some lipstick, and it was
amazing how many people who would say, "Oh gosh, you look like you're
feeling much better!"

Around where I live, the girls with the deep, dark lipliners are usually
considered, um, not the kind of girl you want to bring home to Mom.

I'm so pale I always look sick. I'm one of those sun-sensitive auburns,
pasty to begin with, and add the fact that my medicine makes me even more
light sensitive. I don't take out the trash without sunscreen and a little
blush and gloss.

Blessed be,
Baha



Sherry

I can see the thing about definition. But it's been a fashion in our younger,
clubbing circles locally to wear really dark liner. I mean using a dark brown or
even black eye pencil to ring the lips. I can see it if you're into Gothic
fashion which means black or near-black lipstick, but with red or pink? Feh!

CatNipped wrote:

"jmcquown" wrote in message
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wrote:
wrote:

Well, why *would* anyone want a dark line drawn around their lips?
Unless you're a clown I suppose.
I thought make-up was supposed to enhance what you already have. I
just don't see the purpose for ring-around-the-lips.

I'm not sure that makeup is supposed to be anything in particular.
Some use it to enhance their features, other use it for different
kinds of effects. Lip liner is a style. It may not be a style you
like (evidently, you don't), but lots of women think it looks great.
I don't have a
strong opinion either way.

Joyce

I was under the impression lip liner was to reshape lips slightly if they
are too thin or whatever, not to scream HERE ARE MY LIPS!

Jill

Lip liner was originally created for older women who have vertical lines
around their mouth whose lipstick would bleed into the lines and make their
lips look "spiked". Lip liner has a different consistency that won't bleed,
so lining the lips kept your lipstick where you applied it and nowhere else.
The fashion wisdom at the time was that the lip liner should be one shade
darker than the lipstick to give definition to the lips.

Of course, like anything else related to fashion, it can be used in whatever
way anyone wants to use it - different strokes for different folks, and all
that stuff! ;

--

Hugs,

CatNipped

See all my masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/

Also consider a good tinted moisturizer. Lancome makes one, as does Clarins.
I can hardly tell they're there. Also the Bareminerals products, because
they have no oil or additives, you can't tell from looking that it's on, let
alone feel it. These are the only bases that don't make my husband allergic
when he kisses me!

Blessed be,
Baha

jmcquown wrote:

Chakolate wrote:
wrote in
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Now that I'm 50, I'm thinking "Hmmm, maybe I should try a little of
this stuff." But, as I said, I am clueless.

Man, I could have written this! I have lately begun to wonder if
maybe just a little bit would make me look better.

Then I remember that wearing makeup makes me feel like my face is
dirty, that my skin is so oily I have to wash it often during the
day, and that a smile is the best plastic surgery in the world, and I
shrug and walk away. Smiling.

Chak

There are some very good, very light foundations that are oil-free. The
first one that springs to mind is Cornsilk. And I like a nice sheer lip
tint rather than lipstick on most days.

Jill

Doesn't Shoppers Drug Mart carry Revlon? Could have sworn they did. At least the
ones between Buffalo and Toronto, I've seen Revlon in Shoppers!

"W. Leong" wrote:

"Kathryn" wrote in message
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When I was a teenager my mum didn't really wear makeup and didn't teach me
so I was never into it. Once I started working and had some money to play
with it I started loving it. I wear makeup every day now and the best word
there is play - while there are styles of clothes I would never wear with
makeup I have endless choice!

A couple of suggestions - if you aren't used to wearing it and might feel
uncomfortable go for something very neutral. If you feel like your face is
dirty wearing foundation try a tinted moisturiser. I have one from
clinique that is gorgeous - its not cheap but not too expensive (about $40
AUD). It gives me coverage but doesn't feel as heavy as foundation. I've
had compliments when I've worn it!

Clinque also has Almost Makeup SPF 15. I use this one and the sunscreen is
a plus.


Definitaly try one of the counters at a department store. The ones I've
been too have never been too much in sales mode - I guess it can depend on
the salesperson. Look for someone who is wearing makeup with the kind of
look you would like and ask her what she is wearing. A friend that I
studied with at uni worked part time at the Revlon counter in the
department store in the city and her boss would often tell her she wasn't
wearing enough makeup. But lots of customers would ask her what she used
because she had a very natural look. Plus she's gorgeous and doesn't need
much anyway! She models part time now.

You have Revlon counter in department stores? I haven't seen them here in
Canada.
Here Revlon is available in drug stores along with brands like Cover Girl. I
think their
prices are lower than other cosmetic which have their own counters in
department stores.

Winnie

Kathryn

I buy my tan in a bottle. L'Oreal has a base I think it's called True
Match, that's supposed to adapt itself to the skin tone. Find one
closest to the tan color and apply on the web of skin between thumb and
index finger, or on the jawline rather than the upper hand or top of
cheek, and see how it matches in natural light.

"Monique Y. Mudama" wrote:

On 2006-04-25, -L. penned:

Honetly, your best bet is to go to a makeup consultant and have a
lesson. M.A.C. is awesome, but spendy.
http://www.maccosmetics.com/home.tmpl?ngextredir=1 They perfectly
match your skin tone.

What happens when you get a tan in the summer?

--
monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

On 2006-04-26, CatNipped penned:

The sunblock doesn't bother me, but insect repellent kills me (and
you can *NOT* go outside here in Houston, day or night, without
insect repellent). I have to be very careful what brand I use and
where I apply it.

Yuck. I simply refuse to use that stuff. As far as I know, I don't
have an allergic reaction, but I'd rather deal with itchy bumps than
with that smell.

The worst is that it got on my camelbak nipple and now that's all I
can taste when I use it - it's so bad that I went back to using my
canteen so I could have water that doesn't taste like industrial
waste! No amount of cleaning will get rid of that taste - I'm
considering running some vinegar through it a few time and then
maybe some water with lemon added to see if that will clean it up.

Lori, you can buy replacement "bite valves", too. Look for "big bite
valve mouthpiece" ... looks like they're $5.95 everywhere. You can get
them on Amazon, but you can probably also get them locally at REI or
similar.

--
monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

On 2006-04-25, penned:

Naw, don't really feel like I *need* to. But I've been trying to do
nicer things for myself lately, as life has not been kind. So I've
gotten into bubble baths, putting on a bit of lotion, things to just
make me feel a little better. I used to have fun with makeup a
little bit in high school, but have really forgotten how to use it,
and thought it might be nice to do something different every once in
awhile (like, I just did a temporary coloring of my hair to red
recently).

Lotion is a good one. I try to remember to take the time for that
every day.

--
monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

On 2006-04-26, penned:
wrote:

Thin lips: I have a friend with hardly no upper lip who had
that permanent lipstick inked on, and had them define her upper
lip better. Scary as that sounds, it really looks good on her.

I was watching a movie the other night from the 1970s, before every
movie star in Hollywood was required to have huge lips. The lead
actress was very pretty and had a lovely, smallish mouth with fairly
thin, yet still nicely shaped lips. She'd be nowhere today, but it
hasn't always been like that. People didn't always complain that
their lips were "too" thin. I mean, too thin for what, exactly?

A friend of mine were browsing in an artsy shop a few months ago and
found a black and white photo of several women with the old-style
super long skis, in long pants and bikini tops. She looked at it and
exclaimed, "That was back in the day when women were allowed to have
hips!" (She is tiny, as far as I am concerned, but when she puts on
skirts or pants that fit her hips, they pooch out around her waist so
badly that it just doesn't work at all.)

--
monique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully

pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca