declawing

"bewtifulfreak" wrote in message ...
"Brandy Alexandre" wrote in message
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bewtifulfreak wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

Twenty different nations agreeing on the same thing seems like far
more than "opinion" to me, and certainly argues against it being a
matter of regional and cultural preference, unless we are to
believe all twenty of those nations have the same regional and
cultural bias, which seems highly unlikely. The only two
countries that haven't banned it are much more likely to share a
cultural and regional bias, that most likely being the bias of
putting the love of money above all else.

Only two? Which two are you talking about and which hundreds are you
not?

Countries where declawing is banned/illegal:

(as per veterinarian Dr. Christianne Schelling's site,
http://www.declawing.com/ , as accessed through http://stopdeclaw.com )

England
Scotland
Wales
Italy
France
Germany
Austria
Switzerland
Norway
Sweden
Netherlands
Northern Ireland
Ireland
Denmark
Finland
Slovenia
Portugal
Belgium
Spain
Brazil
Australia
New Zealand


Countries where it is not:

U.S.
Canada



Countries not listed most likely do not engage in the practice of
declawing, because those that are listed have public, published
policies, whether or not it is umbrellaed under the guise of animal
ownership. You cannot ban something or make a legal policy about it,
if it does not exist.

Furthermore, most localities in West Africa do not have laws
pertaining to animals. For those working against the primate trade
industry, it is very difficult to get African countries to abide by
international treaties against the trade in exotic species because
local laws do not exist, and many of the locals do not see the
international treaties as enforcable, especially when the exchange of
money is involved.

If they do not have local laws regarding exotic species, which are
worth tens of thousands of dollars a piece, they are unlikely to have
laws governing common household pets.

-L.

kaeli wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

I don't know that countries that don't view cats like pets so much
as a possible alternative food source count in this argument...


You ignorant louts are disgusting. I was researching pet importation,
available of veterinary services in several countries for a web site I
put together, along with average living standards, not the 1950s
National Geographic you apparently read. When places like England and
Canada say Americans are poorly educated and nearly ignorant of the
world around them, I have to agree.

No, they do not eat cats in Nigeria, as you imply, just in case you
wanted to know. But some how I doubt you wanted to know because you're
too self-involved in your little obsessions.

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BrandyÂ*Â*Alexandre®
http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx
Well, would you?

kaeli wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

I don't know that countries that don't view cats like pets so much
as a possible alternative food source count in this argument...


You ignorant louts are disgusting. I was researching pet importation,
available of veterinary services in several countries for a web site I
put together, along with average living standards, not the 1950s
National Geographic you apparently read. When places like England and
Canada say Americans are poorly educated and nearly ignorant of the
world around them, I have to agree.

No, they do not eat cats in Nigeria, as you imply, just in case you
wanted to know. But some how I doubt you wanted to know because you're
too self-involved in your little obsessions.

--
BrandyÂ*Â*Alexandre®
http://www.swydm.com/?refer=BrandyAlx
Well, would you?

in article , BrandyÂ*Alexandre at
? wrote on 8/12/03 9:00 PM:

kaeli wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

I don't know that countries that don't view cats like pets so much
as a possible alternative food source count in this argument...


You ignorant louts are disgusting.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!



I was researching pet importation,
available of veterinary services in several countries for a web site I
put together, along with average living standards, not the 1950s
National Geographic you apparently read. When places like England and
Canada say Americans are poorly educated and nearly ignorant of the
world around them, I have to agree.

No, they do not eat cats in Nigeria, as you imply, just in case you
wanted to know. But some how I doubt you wanted to know because you're
too self-involved in your little obsessions.

in article , BrandyÂ*Alexandre at
? wrote on 8/12/03 9:00 PM:

kaeli wrote in
rec.pets.cats.health+behav:

I don't know that countries that don't view cats like pets so much
as a possible alternative food source count in this argument...


You ignorant louts are disgusting.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!



I was researching pet importation,
available of veterinary services in several countries for a web site I
put together, along with average living standards, not the 1950s
National Geographic you apparently read. When places like England and
Canada say Americans are poorly educated and nearly ignorant of the
world around them, I have to agree.

No, they do not eat cats in Nigeria, as you imply, just in case you
wanted to know. But some how I doubt you wanted to know because you're
too self-involved in your little obsessions.

Arjun Ray wrote in message . ..
In , "BrandyÂ*Alexandre"
Â* wrote:

| Cite your source.

You first, O Brandywhine.

| You're famous for making that request and getting bent out of shape
| when people don't answer you, so set an example.

Wow.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Um, who is she frothing about now?

-L.

Arjun Ray wrote in message . ..
In , "BrandyÂ*Alexandre"
Â* wrote:

| Cite your source.

You first, O Brandywhine.

| You're famous for making that request and getting bent out of shape
| when people don't answer you, so set an example.

Wow.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Um, who is she frothing about now?

-L.

"Brandy Alexandre" wrote in message
...

I'm not the one desperate to make a point. You are the ones trumpeting
about declawing and behaving like idiots. I don't care if you get your
message out there or not, but just trying to tell you that you cannot
influence people with 4th grade behavior.

"Get a room," is not 4th grade behavior? Name-calling is not 4th grade
behavior? If anyone has been immature in this, it's you; I've been very
level-handed about presenting facts to support my beliefs, and not stooping
to the nastiness you have. And you are the one who is always on about
getting points across, not me....obviously, you think mutilating a cat is
fine, and I don't expect to convince you otherwise. But when you make
stupid claims or insults trying to divert from the subject, I'm going to
mention it. This is a discussion group, and we were having a discussion on
the subject of declawing, at least until you changed the subject because you
realized you had no basis to support your point of view. If we are
trumpeting, it is because we care about animals, and hate to see ignorant
people harming them for their own convenience. But I've wasted enough of my
time interacting with the likes of you already. Clearly, you have nothing
more to say to defend your weak point of view, and I've said my piece, so
really there is nothing more to be said.

Ann

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http://www.angelfire.com/ca/bewtifulfreak

"Brandy Alexandre" wrote in message
...

I'm not the one desperate to make a point. You are the ones trumpeting
about declawing and behaving like idiots. I don't care if you get your
message out there or not, but just trying to tell you that you cannot
influence people with 4th grade behavior.

"Get a room," is not 4th grade behavior? Name-calling is not 4th grade
behavior? If anyone has been immature in this, it's you; I've been very
level-handed about presenting facts to support my beliefs, and not stooping
to the nastiness you have. And you are the one who is always on about
getting points across, not me....obviously, you think mutilating a cat is
fine, and I don't expect to convince you otherwise. But when you make
stupid claims or insults trying to divert from the subject, I'm going to
mention it. This is a discussion group, and we were having a discussion on
the subject of declawing, at least until you changed the subject because you
realized you had no basis to support your point of view. If we are
trumpeting, it is because we care about animals, and hate to see ignorant
people harming them for their own convenience. But I've wasted enough of my
time interacting with the likes of you already. Clearly, you have nothing
more to say to defend your weak point of view, and I've said my piece, so
really there is nothing more to be said.

Ann

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http://www.angelfire.com/ca/bewtifulfreak

"Brandy Alexandre" wrote in message
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Obviously your didn't like being confronting with your racism and
nationalistic biases. I learned all I needed to about you and your
beliefs from your attack on the list of countries I posted. It's
disgusting. You're a bigot. That's not name-calling; that's a fact.
It's ugly and I'm ashamed to be American if you represent us.

Brandy, you're just talking sh*t. What I didn't like was you twisting the
facts and making things up, nor defending a cruel and senseless practice
against innocent animals. I did not attack any countries you posted, and I
am nowhere *near* a bigot; I have friends in all different countries, of
varying races, creeds, and sexual preferences. So your calling me a bigot
and an ugly American is just plain name-calling, which you resorted to
merely because you couldn't find any valid argument to defend your bogus
point of view.

Oh, and by the way, the feeling is mutual; ignorant people like you make
*me* ashamed to be an American.

Ann

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http://www.angelfire.com/ca/bewtifulfreak