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#21
May 6th 05, 07:22 AM
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John Doe wrote: A tough guy wanna-be troll. PUSSY! IBen GettinYaInDEEbootyHole 
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#22
May 6th 05, 07:22 AM
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Declaw. It worked for us. I know certain people won't want to hear
this, but our cat has never been healthier or happier! All the crap you hear in places like this against declawing is put out there by bunny-hugging blank-stare nut-jobs. Remember that. These are the types of people who would row their already-filled-to-capacity lifeboat back into the sea of drowning desperates at the scene of the Titanic sinking. They are KOOKS. They are to be IGNORED. Set up an appointment to have all ten taken out this week. None of your liberal KOOK friends will ever know, lest it be YOU who will tell them so!
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#23
May 6th 05, 07:32 AM
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"bigbadbarry" wrote in message oups.com... Mary wrote: And what are you wearing?  Maybe we need to do an intervention here, sounds pretty out of control. Do you have access to a local newspaper? Yes. What do you think we should do? Send over a truck with Cosmic Catnip Alpine Scratchers?
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#25
May 6th 05, 03:26 PM
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Mary wrote: "bigbadbarry" wrote in message oups.com... Mary wrote: And what are you wearing? Maybe we need to do an intervention here, sounds pretty out of control. Do you have access to a local newspaper? Yes. What do you think we should do? Send over a truck with Cosmic Catnip Alpine Scratchers? Yes, better get a couple of them, and some peroxide, A&D ointment, eye-patch, and throw in a few cat treats.
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#26
May 7th 05, 03:58 PM
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"Mariah Nichols via CatKB.com" wrote in message ... My 2 cats like to claw things(especially me!) I don't want to declaw them, but I doupt I can afford to buy any Soft Paws. Is there an easier way to keep them from clawing without training them? -- Message posted via http://www.catkb.com Surgery (declawing) would cost *much* more than Soft Paws -- and along with it would come the possibility of several painful and unpleasant side effects of amputation. This includes early onset of arthritis, biting and inappropriate urination. Even in the "best-case" situations, the cat will never have the same balance as a cat with its claws. That said, you *do* need to train the cat if you do not want it to scratch furniture because scratching is a natural instinct for cats (and is also a form of exercise for them). I have never found it difficult to train a cat to use scratching posts and have not even needed Soft Paws. First, you should have *several* scratching posts available in various parts of the house -- don't expect your cat to go "looking" for one. I have one in every room except the bathrooms. Scratching posts should be very stable because a cat may become frightened if one topples over and then may refuse to use it. Pet Smart has a very tall one available that has both sisal and carpeting. It also has an extended L-shaped base, which adds to the stability. You may want to experiement with various types of coverings. Some cats prefer carpeting, some sisal, some like corrugated cardboard. All of my cats have shown a preference for vertical (upright) surfaces, but some cats like horizontal or sloped surfaces. Each of my cats learned to use the scratching post almost exclusively within just a few days (even including Duffy, my blind cat, who was approximately 4 years old when I adopted him and had never been trained to a post). I watched the cats *very* closely the first few days after adoption. Any time the cat started to claw anything else, I would say "no" (firmly, but not shouting). Then I would move to a scratching post and tap it or scratch it with my fingernails to attract the cat's attention. When the cat would approach, I would praise lavishly even if he/she only picked slightly at the surface. Soon, they got the idea that this was "a good thing," and they would scratch vigorously any time I tapped the post and called to them. Sometimes I would draw a string (with small toy or even a piece of fabric attached) up and down the post. The cat would follow in play but would invariably begin scratching the surface. Then the praise would begin again. All of this required close attention for a few days, but after that I had no problems. I *never* resorted to yelling, water pistols, or other forms of punishment. Positive reinforcement always worked well, and it has the added benefit of contributing to a loving relationship between cat and hoomin. A good, tall, sturdy cat tree/condo would be a very worthwhile investment (or one can be made for very little cost if you are "handy" with tools). This will give the cat fun and exercise, and I am sure you will find it delightful to watch. I have one post on mine covered with sisal, so that serves as a scratching post. The others are carpeted. The carpeting would not even be needed for most cats, but it is essential for Duffy, my blind cat, because he uses it for traction as he climbs up and down. MaryL Photos of Duffy and Holly: 'o' http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly) http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in")
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#27
May 8th 05, 05:18 PM
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"John Doe" wrote in message ... The troll's favorite groups: alt.flame.******s alt.politics.homosexuality alt.abortion "IBen Getiner" wrote: Yes, "IBen" has been laughed out of -or kf'd- in virtually all the groups he's trolled. He's a bigoted, sociopathic wingnut that posts from multiple sockpuppets: , , (Jon Young) In addition, this troll has a LONG track record of creating racist socks, both via AOL proxy servers and his previous ISP, web tv (it figures): , , , , , , , Then, of course, are his assorted forgeries of me and others (all leading back to AOL): , , , , , He's a brain-addled loser and best ignored, lest he become a pestilence. LC~ Knows all about crazy "IBen/JYoung, et al"... "Well, you'd ALL better dig on THIS: It is MY little passion-play. Don't forget that. When I find it necessary to reveal anything to ANYBODY, I do it for MY own ends ... not theirs."~ The troll occasionally known as IBenGetiner/Jon Young, making clear his autoerotic delusions, in message
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#28
May 10th 05, 07:14 AM
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On Sat, 7 May 2005 09:58:11 -0500, "MaryL"
-OUT-THE-LITTER wrote: "Mariah Nichols via CatKB.com" wrote in message .. . My 2 cats like to claw things(especially me!) I don't want to declaw them, but I doupt I can afford to buy any Soft Paws. Is there an easier way to keep them from clawing without training them? -- Message posted via http://www.catkb.com Surgery (declawing) would cost *much* more than Soft Paws -- and along with it would come the possibility of several painful and unpleasant side effects of amputation. This includes early onset of arthritis, biting and inappropriate urination. Even in the "best-case" situations, the cat will never have the same balance as a cat with its claws. That said, you *do* need to train the cat if you do not want it to scratch furniture because scratching is a natural instinct for cats (and is also a form of exercise for them). I have never found it difficult to train a cat to use scratching posts and have not even needed Soft Paws. First, you should have *several* scratching posts available in various parts of the house -- don't expect your cat to go "looking" for one. I have one in every room except the bathrooms. Scratching posts should be very stable because a cat may become frightened if one topples over and then may refuse to use it. Pet Smart has a very tall one available that has both sisal and carpeting. It also has an extended L-shaped base, which adds to the stability. You may want to experiement with various types of coverings. Some cats prefer carpeting, some sisal, some like corrugated cardboard. All of my cats have shown a preference for vertical (upright) surfaces, but some cats like horizontal or sloped surfaces. Each of my cats learned to use the scratching post almost exclusively within just a few days (even including Duffy, my blind cat, who was approximately 4 years old when I adopted him and had never been trained to a post). I watched the cats *very* closely the first few days after adoption. Any time the cat started to claw anything else, I would say "no" (firmly, but not shouting). Then I would move to a scratching post and tap it or scratch it with my fingernails to attract the cat's attention. When the cat would approach, I would praise lavishly even if he/she only picked slightly at the surface. Soon, they got the idea that this was "a good thing," and they would scratch vigorously any time I tapped the post and called to them. Sometimes I would draw a string (with small toy or even a piece of fabric attached) up and down the post. The cat would follow in play but would invariably begin scratching the surface. Then the praise would begin again. All of this required close attention for a few days, but after that I had no problems. I *never* resorted to yelling, water pistols, or other forms of punishment. Positive reinforcement always worked well, and it has the added benefit of contributing to a loving relationship between cat and hoomin. A good, tall, sturdy cat tree/condo would be a very worthwhile investment (or one can be made for very little cost if you are "handy" with tools). This will give the cat fun and exercise, and I am sure you will find it delightful to watch. I have one post on mine covered with sisal, so that serves as a scratching post. The others are carpeted. The carpeting would not even be needed for most cats, but it is essential for Duffy, my blind cat, because he uses it for traction as he climbs up and down. MaryL Photos of Duffy and Holly: 'o' http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly) http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in") Mary those first few days if you had to leave the house did you put them in a crate or did you leave them out and hope for the best....?? Brad LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL-PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, SHOUTING... " HOLY @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!"
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#29
May 10th 05, 09:20 AM
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"Brad" wrote in message ... On Sat, 7 May 2005 09:58:11 -0500, "MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote: "Mariah Nichols via CatKB.com" wrote in message . .. My 2 cats like to claw things(especially me!) I don't want to declaw them, but I doupt I can afford to buy any Soft Paws. Is there an easier way to keep them from clawing without training them? -- Message posted via http://www.catkb.com Surgery (declawing) would cost *much* more than Soft Paws -- and along with it would come the possibility of several painful and unpleasant side effects of amputation. This includes early onset of arthritis, biting and inappropriate urination. Even in the "best-case" situations, the cat will never have the same balance as a cat with its claws. That said, you *do* need to train the cat if you do not want it to scratch furniture because scratching is a natural instinct for cats (and is also a form of exercise for them). I have never found it difficult to train a cat to use scratching posts and have not even needed Soft Paws. First, you should have *several* scratching posts available in various parts of the house -- don't expect your cat to go "looking" for one. I have one in every room except the bathrooms. Scratching posts should be very stable because a cat may become frightened if one topples over and then may refuse to use it. Pet Smart has a very tall one available that has both sisal and carpeting. It also has an extended L-shaped base, which adds to the stability. You may want to experiement with various types of coverings. Some cats prefer carpeting, some sisal, some like corrugated cardboard. All of my cats have shown a preference for vertical (upright) surfaces, but some cats like horizontal or sloped surfaces. Each of my cats learned to use the scratching post almost exclusively within just a few days (even including Duffy, my blind cat, who was approximately 4 years old when I adopted him and had never been trained to a post). I watched the cats *very* closely the first few days after adoption. Any time the cat started to claw anything else, I would say "no" (firmly, but not shouting). Then I would move to a scratching post and tap it or scratch it with my fingernails to attract the cat's attention. When the cat would approach, I would praise lavishly even if he/she only picked slightly at the surface. Soon, they got the idea that this was "a good thing," and they would scratch vigorously any time I tapped the post and called to them. Sometimes I would draw a string (with small toy or even a piece of fabric attached) up and down the post. The cat would follow in play but would invariably begin scratching the surface. Then the praise would begin again. All of this required close attention for a few days, but after that I had no problems. I *never* resorted to yelling, water pistols, or other forms of punishment. Positive reinforcement always worked well, and it has the added benefit of contributing to a loving relationship between cat and hoomin. A good, tall, sturdy cat tree/condo would be a very worthwhile investment (or one can be made for very little cost if you are "handy" with tools). This will give the cat fun and exercise, and I am sure you will find it delightful to watch. I have one post on mine covered with sisal, so that serves as a scratching post. The others are carpeted. The carpeting would not even be needed for most cats, but it is essential for Duffy, my blind cat, because he uses it for traction as he climbs up and down. MaryL Photos of Duffy and Holly: 'o' http://tinyurl.com/8y54 (Introducing Duffy to Holly) http://tinyurl.com/8y56 (Duffy and Holly "settle in") Mary those first few days if you had to leave the house did you put them in a crate or did you leave them out and hope for the best....?? Brad I did not make any special arrangements even when I had to leave them alone during the first few days. The exception was Duffy, but it had nothing to do with scratching posts in his case. I needed to give Duffy time to get accustomed to the house, and I took a very slow, gradual approach in introducting Duffy to Holly (which many of you have read about on this NG). Therefore, he was in a single bedroom during that time. MaryL
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