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  #12  
Old August 5th 03, 10:38 PM
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Yngver wrote:

Is it getting more common to use fluids
during the procedure?


I think so. My vet always offers it for younger cats, and *requires* it
for cats aged 10 years or older.

Do you know what the benefit is?


I did a quick search to make sure I had all the info. There are several
benefits.

IV fluids administered during surgery:

-Help prevent life-threatening hypo-tension (low blood pressure)
- Aid in renal (kidney) function
- Assist with metabolism of anaesthetic and may speed recovery
- Allow quick access to veins if there is a need to administer
medication(s)
- Help to maintain body temperature and prevent hypothermia (when IV
fluids are warmed)

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  #13  
Old August 5th 03, 10:38 PM
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Yngver wrote:

Is it getting more common to use fluids
during the procedure?


I think so. My vet always offers it for younger cats, and *requires* it
for cats aged 10 years or older.

Do you know what the benefit is?


I did a quick search to make sure I had all the info. There are several
benefits.

IV fluids administered during surgery:

-Help prevent life-threatening hypo-tension (low blood pressure)
- Aid in renal (kidney) function
- Assist with metabolism of anaesthetic and may speed recovery
- Allow quick access to veins if there is a need to administer
medication(s)
- Help to maintain body temperature and prevent hypothermia (when IV
fluids are warmed)

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray


  #14  
Old August 6th 03, 04:02 PM
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I agree. My parent's cat had teeth removed when she was 14, and it
helped her greatly.

Rene

"Cathy Friedmann" wrote in message ...
Personally, I don't consider 10 - 12 too old for a dental workup - with
extracting that tooth; your cat probably has a good 5 - 7 years ahead of
him, maybe more. If the vet takes some pre-op precautions, he should be
fine. I know *I* sure wouldn't want to be stuck w/ a toothache forever!
I'd take him to another nearby vet for a second opinion if this vet refuses
to consider getting that painful tooth out of there.

Cathy

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"Gerard" wrote in message
...
hi i have an 10-12 year old tom cat who in fairly good health but hes

being
suffering from a toothache. i brought him to the vets this morning but the
vet said he wouldnt risk removing the tooth because hes to old and the

best
thing to do would be finding him foods that are easier for him to chew.

ive
tried the tined foods he usually eats (wiskas beef and beef n liver) but
they seem to be causing him discomfort. anyone got any ideas on foods that

i
can get for him which would be easier on his teeth .


  #15  
Old August 6th 03, 04:02 PM
Rene
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I agree. My parent's cat had teeth removed when she was 14, and it
helped her greatly.

Rene

"Cathy Friedmann" wrote in message ...
Personally, I don't consider 10 - 12 too old for a dental workup - with
extracting that tooth; your cat probably has a good 5 - 7 years ahead of
him, maybe more. If the vet takes some pre-op precautions, he should be
fine. I know *I* sure wouldn't want to be stuck w/ a toothache forever!
I'd take him to another nearby vet for a second opinion if this vet refuses
to consider getting that painful tooth out of there.

Cathy

--
"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon

"Gerard" wrote in message
...
hi i have an 10-12 year old tom cat who in fairly good health but hes

being
suffering from a toothache. i brought him to the vets this morning but the
vet said he wouldnt risk removing the tooth because hes to old and the

best
thing to do would be finding him foods that are easier for him to chew.

ive
tried the tined foods he usually eats (wiskas beef and beef n liver) but
they seem to be causing him discomfort. anyone got any ideas on foods that

i
can get for him which would be easier on his teeth .


  #18  
Old August 6th 03, 05:17 PM
Cathy Friedmann
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"Yngver" wrote in message
...
wrote:

Is it getting more common to use fluids
during the procedure?


I think so. My vet always offers it for younger cats, and *requires* it
for cats aged 10 years or older.

Do you know what the benefit is?


I did a quick search to make sure I had all the info. There are several
benefits.

IV fluids administered during surgery:

-Help prevent life-threatening hypo-tension (low blood pressure)
- Aid in renal (kidney) function
- Assist with metabolism of anaesthetic and may speed recovery
- Allow quick access to veins if there is a need to administer
medication(s)
- Help to maintain body temperature and prevent hypothermia (when IV
fluids are warmed)

Thanks for the info. I thought it was mainly for older cats with CRF, but

our
cat doesn't have that. I also sort of wonder if the IV fluids could have

any
adverse effects. Instead of a quick recovery, our cat took a long

time--two
days before she was back to normal. But she did have three extractions,

two of
them rear molars which are big teeth, and she was under anesthesia for

longer
than usual. I was wondering if it's possible for them to get too much IV
fluids. She didn't drink any water or other liquids that evening or the

entire
following day, yet urinated profusely four times in that time period. It

seems
to me she sure must have gotten a lot of fluids, to go that long without
wanting anything to drink.


One (a person, at any rate, so I would guess any other mammal) does pee a
lot if getting IV fluids.

The 2-day recovery period sounds like a long time to me, though. In
contrast, Debbie - who was about 5 - 6 at the time - had 5 teeth out once &
was virtually back to normal by the time I picked her up later that day.

Cathy

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"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon


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Old August 6th 03, 05:17 PM
Cathy Friedmann
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"Yngver" wrote in message
...
wrote:

Is it getting more common to use fluids
during the procedure?


I think so. My vet always offers it for younger cats, and *requires* it
for cats aged 10 years or older.

Do you know what the benefit is?


I did a quick search to make sure I had all the info. There are several
benefits.

IV fluids administered during surgery:

-Help prevent life-threatening hypo-tension (low blood pressure)
- Aid in renal (kidney) function
- Assist with metabolism of anaesthetic and may speed recovery
- Allow quick access to veins if there is a need to administer
medication(s)
- Help to maintain body temperature and prevent hypothermia (when IV
fluids are warmed)

Thanks for the info. I thought it was mainly for older cats with CRF, but

our
cat doesn't have that. I also sort of wonder if the IV fluids could have

any
adverse effects. Instead of a quick recovery, our cat took a long

time--two
days before she was back to normal. But she did have three extractions,

two of
them rear molars which are big teeth, and she was under anesthesia for

longer
than usual. I was wondering if it's possible for them to get too much IV
fluids. She didn't drink any water or other liquids that evening or the

entire
following day, yet urinated profusely four times in that time period. It

seems
to me she sure must have gotten a lot of fluids, to go that long without
wanting anything to drink.


One (a person, at any rate, so I would guess any other mammal) does pee a
lot if getting IV fluids.

The 2-day recovery period sounds like a long time to me, though. In
contrast, Debbie - who was about 5 - 6 at the time - had 5 teeth out once &
was virtually back to normal by the time I picked her up later that day.

Cathy

--
"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon


  #20  
Old August 6th 03, 07:08 PM
Yngver
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"Cathy Friedmann" wrote:

Thanks for the info. I thought it was mainly for older cats with CRF, but

our
cat doesn't have that. I also sort of wonder if the IV fluids could have

any
adverse effects. Instead of a quick recovery, our cat took a long

time--two
days before she was back to normal. But she did have three extractions,

two of
them rear molars which are big teeth, and she was under anesthesia for

longer
than usual. I was wondering if it's possible for them to get too much IV
fluids. She didn't drink any water or other liquids that evening or the

entire
following day, yet urinated profusely four times in that time period. It

seems
to me she sure must have gotten a lot of fluids, to go that long without
wanting anything to drink.


One (a person, at any rate, so I would guess any other mammal) does pee a
lot if getting IV fluids.


What was curious to me was that she was peeing a lot that evening and the next
day, but taking in no liquids. She did eat a little dry kibble, but no liquids.
Seems like the IV fluids would have gone through her by the end of the first
evening.

When I've had IV fluids I'm pretty sure I was back to normal the next day, but
I can't recall for sure.

The 2-day recovery period sounds like a long time to me, though. In
contrast, Debbie - who was about 5 - 6 at the time - had 5 teeth out once &
was virtually back to normal by the time I picked her up later that day.

Wow, five teeth at once! Poor thing.

Our cat was pretty wobbly when she came home, and better the next day but still
a little unsteady on her feet until the following day. The vet said that one
of her teeth was causing her pain even under anesthesia, so I wonder if he gave
her a little too much after that. Our other cat has had a couple of dental
cleanings but by the time she came home she was pretty much okay, just cranky.
But she never had any extractions.
 




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