Advice please?

"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message
...
Some cats are drama queens We had a
cat that adored another cat of ours. He would follow her around and gaze
at
her in rapture. She did not like him. There were times I heard horrible
shrieking. I mean like a REAL fighting, not just normal stuff. I would
rush
into the room only to find my male 10 feet across the room from the
female,
but "he's LOOKING at me" seemed to be vocalized over dramatically.

Heh! ;-) This is the same scene I've come across umpteen times - w/
Demelza screeching her head off, at the top of her lungs, at Herrie. "He's
*looking* at me!!!"

Cathy

--
"Staccato signals of constant information..."
("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon


After my
first three heart attacks over it, I found it amusing that she could carry
on so. It just confused him.

Karen

In , "Dooies B.B"
wrote:

| I do feel that you are attacking me merely for making a mistake based
| on information given to me from a trusted person.

I'm sorry, I wasn't attacking you. As Karen says, I'm very unhappy with
your vet. You have been given rather poor advice to say the least. I
also got the distinct impression that you had given up - based obviously
on the information (or lack of it) from the vet.

To some extent, I speak from personal experience. I have a CRF cat.
(His case is somewhat different in that he isn't old - only 5 - but
that's inessential.) I trusted (and liked) a vet until the day I found
her giving a prognosis that I knew was wrong. I knew because in the
interim, I had researched the subject. My cat needed fluids immediately
but she didn't think so. Basically, her heart wasn't in the fight for
my cat's life.

So I changed vets. I have stopped going to the previous vet, and I
ignore all the reminders and cards she sends.

I know it's hard to turn away from a trusted person, but I view it this
way: my first loyalty is to my cat, not the vet.

In , "Dooies B.B"
wrote:

| I do feel that you are attacking me merely for making a mistake based
| on information given to me from a trusted person.

I'm sorry, I wasn't attacking you. As Karen says, I'm very unhappy with
your vet. You have been given rather poor advice to say the least. I
also got the distinct impression that you had given up - based obviously
on the information (or lack of it) from the vet.

To some extent, I speak from personal experience. I have a CRF cat.
(His case is somewhat different in that he isn't old - only 5 - but
that's inessential.) I trusted (and liked) a vet until the day I found
her giving a prognosis that I knew was wrong. I knew because in the
interim, I had researched the subject. My cat needed fluids immediately
but she didn't think so. Basically, her heart wasn't in the fight for
my cat's life.

So I changed vets. I have stopped going to the previous vet, and I
ignore all the reminders and cards she sends.

I know it's hard to turn away from a trusted person, but I view it this
way: my first loyalty is to my cat, not the vet.

"Dooies B.B" wrote in message
. ..
Sorry to cross post but I have a bit of a dilema.

My cat is now 15 and a half, and although she still eats, drinks,
toilets,
and sleeps, she does little else. I know she has some discomfort
from her
lower back, and probably kidney problems. Other than that and her
increased
laziness she seems quite happy, purrs when I go to see her, still
comes down
stairs when she wants more food (I have 3 cats, and they decided
they wanted
to divide themselves so Katie got the upstairs, and Gizmo and betsy
the
downstairs), she doesn't come and see me in bed any more and has no
desire
to go outside (even though she used to go out days at a time).

I realise this is just old age and everyone slows down, but I'm
wondering
whether I should consider taking her to be put down in a month or so
rather
than forcing her to go on living when basically she doesn't live the
most
active of lives, and its not that full of interest. I try and spend
time
with her, but I just wonder if forcing her to live on to the bitter
end is
the kindest thing to do.

Any thoughts would be gratefully recieved.



Have you taken your cat to the vet for a check up and a blood panel
, if not why are you considering putting her to sleep ? You don't
have a dilema until you find out your cat has something your vet
can't treat .
Alison

"Dooies B.B" wrote in message
. ..
Sorry to cross post but I have a bit of a dilema.

My cat is now 15 and a half, and although she still eats, drinks,
toilets,
and sleeps, she does little else. I know she has some discomfort
from her
lower back, and probably kidney problems. Other than that and her
increased
laziness she seems quite happy, purrs when I go to see her, still
comes down
stairs when she wants more food (I have 3 cats, and they decided
they wanted
to divide themselves so Katie got the upstairs, and Gizmo and betsy
the
downstairs), she doesn't come and see me in bed any more and has no
desire
to go outside (even though she used to go out days at a time).

I realise this is just old age and everyone slows down, but I'm
wondering
whether I should consider taking her to be put down in a month or so
rather
than forcing her to go on living when basically she doesn't live the
most
active of lives, and its not that full of interest. I try and spend
time
with her, but I just wonder if forcing her to live on to the bitter
end is
the kindest thing to do.

Any thoughts would be gratefully recieved.



Have you taken your cat to the vet for a check up and a blood panel
, if not why are you considering putting her to sleep ? You don't
have a dilema until you find out your cat has something your vet
can't treat .
Alison

From: "Dooies B.B"

I took her to the vets about 8 months ago and due to her drinking lots more
and stuff it was suggested that she did have mild kidney problems, but it
was also suggested that at her age perhaps it would be better not to treat
her.

A lot can change in 8 months with an older cat. I highly recommend taking her
to a vet who is knowledgeable and experienced treating cats. My 17 year old
cat had kidney disease and we gave her subcataneous fluids at home. It
improved her life quite a bit for a while. Also, if your cat has arthritis,
the vet can give her supplements and possibly medications to ease her
discomfort. Please don't give up on your cat yet. She really should be seen
by a vet, and not the one who doesn't think she's worth treating.

Lauren
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From: "Dooies B.B"

I took her to the vets about 8 months ago and due to her drinking lots more
and stuff it was suggested that she did have mild kidney problems, but it
was also suggested that at her age perhaps it would be better not to treat
her.

A lot can change in 8 months with an older cat. I highly recommend taking her
to a vet who is knowledgeable and experienced treating cats. My 17 year old
cat had kidney disease and we gave her subcataneous fluids at home. It
improved her life quite a bit for a while. Also, if your cat has arthritis,
the vet can give her supplements and possibly medications to ease her
discomfort. Please don't give up on your cat yet. She really should be seen
by a vet, and not the one who doesn't think she's worth treating.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: (Mira)

I think my old girl's IV hurt me
more than it did her, regardless of her shrieking.


My last cat was like that too. She would scream bloody murder when she got an
IV. However, when I gave her SubQ's at home, she didn't mind at all. I think
it's because older cats have very thin and often collapsed veins and it's
painful when a needle is inserted into the vein. But since SubQ's just go in
the skin, it didn't seem to bother my cat at all.

Lauren
________
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Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

From: (Mira)

I think my old girl's IV hurt me
more than it did her, regardless of her shrieking.


My last cat was like that too. She would scream bloody murder when she got an
IV. However, when I gave her SubQ's at home, she didn't mind at all. I think
it's because older cats have very thin and often collapsed veins and it's
painful when a needle is inserted into the vein. But since SubQ's just go in
the skin, it didn't seem to bother my cat at all.

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

Karen Chuplis wrote:


Yes, I was referring to subcutaneous. Some cats are drama queens
We had a cat that adored another cat of ours. He would follow her
around and gaze at her in rapture. She did not like him.

LOL I can picture this.

There were times I heard horrible shrieking. I mean like a REAL
fighting,
not just normal stuff. I would rush into the room only to find my
male 10
feet across the room from the female, but "he's LOOKING at me"
seemed
to be vocalized over dramatically. After my first three heart
attacks
over it, I found it amusing that she could carry on so. It just
confused him.

Karen

Awww.... I can hardly wait for new introductions here. Bonnie is
a spitfire so it's going to be interesting!