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Must Discuss the Kitties' Welfair
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 14:29:04 -0700, "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)"
wrote: Richard Casady wrote: On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:47:14 -0700, "Bill Graham" wrote: Richard Casady wrote: On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:20:31 -0700, "Bill Graham" wrote: "Kyla =^..^=" wrote in message ... "nice guy" nice wrote in message ... What is 'Welfair'? Its, "welfare" for someone who, (for some reason or other) doesn't want to use a spell checker and attempt to write in plain English, but prefers to cover up spelling mistakes by writing in some sort of intentional gibberish. What? You not only post in English, I would bet you use your real name. Casady If you are talking to me, then yes. Of course I use my real name. Why would anyone not use his/her real name when posting on usenet, unless they are a troll who is too chicken to stand behind whatever he/she posts. I post the truth as well as I know it to be, and stand behind everything I say. When I find out I am wrong about something, then I post the correction. (Except there are usually a thousand trolls who jump on my mistake before I get the chance....:^) I have been posting with my real name since 98 and never found a downside to it. Real addy and after all this time the spammers found me. I average one a day, sometimes for stuff I can use. Really? "Stuff" like the $2,000,000 "reserved" for you in UN funds, and the various lotteries you've won without even entering? (Barnum was right!) Yes I get an average of one a day, and yes, often for good stuff at a fair price, and, occasionally, even, something I can use. Cassady |
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
Richard Casady wrote: On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 19:47:14 -0700, "Bill Graham" wrote: Richard Casady wrote: On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:20:31 -0700, "Bill Graham" wrote: "Kyla =^..^=" wrote in message ... "nice guy" nice wrote in message ... What is 'Welfair'? Its, "welfare" for someone who, (for some reason or other) doesn't want to use a spell checker and attempt to write in plain English, but prefers to cover up spelling mistakes by writing in some sort of intentional gibberish. What? You not only post in English, I would bet you use your real name. Casady If you are talking to me, then yes. Of course I use my real name. Why would anyone not use his/her real name when posting on usenet, unless they are a troll who is too chicken to stand behind whatever he/she posts. I post the truth as well as I know it to be, and stand behind everything I say. When I find out I am wrong about something, then I post the correction. (Except there are usually a thousand trolls who jump on my mistake before I get the chance....:^) I have been posting with my real name since 98 and never found a downside to it. Real addy and after all this time the spammers found me. I average one a day, sometimes for stuff I can use. Really? "Stuff" like the $2,000,000 "reserved" for you in UN funds, and the various lotteries you've won without even entering? (Barnum was right!) You'll get that stuff whether you post with your real name or not. I have a program that sticks most of those posts into a junk mail file, but you still have to glance through them before you delete them, because sometimes it puts good posts in there by mistake. |
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CatNipped wrote:
I hate, hate HATE those companies that not only require a certain number of characters, but refuse passwords that are recent repeats of past passwords (like 20 passwords back, or won't allow consesequitive letters, or common words, or anything at ALL easily memorable - no wonder I can't ever get into the same place twice. What the heck do they care if I get "hacked", that's *NY* problem, and besides, the passwords I use and remember couldn't possibly be figured out by anyone but me and *maybe* Ben. Who the hell are they to tell me what's a proper password for me??!! /password rant Sorry we were so rudely interrupted.... I am developing a password system that generates the password from the web address of the internet page on which I am located at the time. IOW, if I am on, "Wellsfargo.com" the password I will use will be unforgettable to me, because it will be generated by the word, "wellsfargo" together with a standard password that applies to all that I can remember easily. When I complete this, my password will be different for every vendor, and yet unforgetable by me, since I will generate it mentally based on the name of the website. I may try to get around the word length problem by generating an 8 character password to begin with, since thare are some sites that require more than 6 characters, but I haven't come across one yet that refuses to accept 8 characters. I will use the keyboard letter positions to generate specal characters, since most "password advisors" insist on mixing in some special characters, although I really can't understand why. They only add about 10 characters to the standard 36 or so alpha-numeric set. But the keyboard has them, so it will be easy for me to use it to generate them. |
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On Jun 19, 12:55*pm, "CatNipped" wrote:
I hate, hate HATE those companies that not only require a certain number of characters, but refuse passwords that are recent repeats of past passwords (like 20 passwords back, or won't allow consesequitive letters, or common words, or anything at ALL easily memorable - no wonder I can't ever get into the same place twice. *What the heck do they care if I get "hacked", that's *NY* problem, and besides, the passwords I use and remember couldn't possibly be figured out by anyone but me and *maybe* Ben. *Who the hell are they to tell me what's a proper password for me??!! /password rant I come up with passwords that mean something to me, but are not normal names by themselves. And then I send myself an email with my username and password hint. The hint makes perfect sense to me, so I don't have to include the actual password. It could be a letter and the # sign, and I know what name and number that is. It could be old goal or new goal, and I know what that means. At work, I keep it very simple as 3 of use the same account, and I really doubt somebody wants to hack into the deli department account. So I have an easy word, punctuation, and a number, and the number goes up by a specific number every time it requires a password change. That way, the other clerks can easily guess the new password if they find it has changed. I also like to answer security questions wrong, so that I know the correct answer, but it isn't easily obvious. For example, I don't use my sister's middle name for that question. I use somebody else;s middle name. I don't use my first pet, etc. |
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On Jun 24, 6:39*pm, "Bill Graham" wrote:
wrote: On Jun 19, 12:55 pm, "CatNipped" wrote: I hate, hate HATE those companies that not only require a certain number of characters, but refuse passwords that are recent repeats of past passwords (like 20 passwords back, or won't allow consesequitive letters, or common words, or anything at ALL easily memorable - no wonder I can't ever get into the same place twice. What the heck do they care if I get "hacked", that's *NY* problem, and besides, the passwords I use and remember couldn't possibly be figured out by anyone but me and *maybe* Ben. Who the hell are they to tell me what's a proper password for me??!! /password rant I come up with passwords that mean something to me, but are not normal names by themselves. And then I send myself an email with my username and password hint. The hint makes perfect sense to me, so I don't have to include the actual password. It could be a letter and the # sign, and I know what name and number that is. It could be old goal or new goal, and I know what that means. At work, I keep it very simple as 3 of use the same account, and I really doubt somebody wants to hack into the deli department account. So I have an easy word, punctuation, * and a number, and the number goes up by a specific number every time it requires a password change. That way, the other clerks can easily guess the new password if they find it has changed. I also like to answer security questions wrong, so that I know the correct answer, but it isn't easily obvious. For example, I don't use my sister's middle name for that question. I use somebody else;s middle name. I don't use my first pet, etc. Yes. Well, passwords vary in their importance. You can use simple ones for unimportant things, but for the important stuff, it's good to have a password that's difficult to figure out. and, it these important ones that I would like to encode so that I can figure them out on the spot based on the information I have rather than sheer memory, but nobody else could. - It would be completely raqndom to anyone who doesn't know my "system", and that way, I wouldn't have to write anything down. My problem with writing stuff down is twqfold, I would misplace the book and not be able to enter my own accounts, and/or someone else would break into my house when I am gone asnd get all my passwords out of the book. In either case, I don't like the idea of writing therm down in a book. This is why I send myself an email and save it in a special location. And the email contains the username and a hint. No actual password. And I know what the hint means. I have made up numbers that go with certain things, so I know what the combination is, how many digits as they vary, and what order and what punctuation. I never write down my passwords, but I do know where to find my hints as I have various passwords at a ton of websites. I would never be able to remember which password goes with which website without my set of hints. I can't even remember my usernames sometimes, and I only use a few of those. I was just at my employer's website to review a paycheck stub. It took me 15 minutes to remember that my username for that account is my checker number, not a word. |
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There's a dangerous assumption here, i.e. that choosing a relatively simple password that is highly personal to you, is safe because nobody would guess it unless they knew you and your personal information. Folks, that's not how hackers break passwords, they don't go your login and try to guess your password. They hack the website completely (a-la Sony) grab the master password file & username list, and feed that data to one or more computers to simply brute force decrypt the password file, they don't need to know anything about you at all. I've decided to use Lastpass and different long completely random passwords for each website that I couldn't begin to remember. The only password I have to remember is my Lastpass password, they handle the rest. Granted, this relies on two things: 1. Nobody can guess my Lastpass password 2. Lastpass's security and encryption is good enough to prevent the master password data falling into the wrong hands and being decrytped in a useful amount of time. So far it's working, but if you bank online or use credit cards online, the watchword is vigilance ;-) BTW, are you wondering if one of the recent hacks (Sony, Citicard, etc) has compromised your password or email address? If not, you probably should be, so check out this tool: https://shouldichangemypassword.com/ It's legit and simply searches the data that has been leaked from sites like Sony to see if your email address is in leaked data. -- Nik Simpson |
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nik Simpson wrote:
There's a dangerous assumption here, i.e. that choosing a relatively simple password that is highly personal to you, is safe because nobody would guess it unless they knew you and your personal information. Folks, that's not how hackers break passwords, they don't go your login and try to guess your password. They hack the website completely (a-la Sony) grab the master password file & username list, and feed that data to one or more computers to simply brute force decrypt the password file, they don't need to know anything about you at all. I've decided to use Lastpass and different long completely random passwords for each website that I couldn't begin to remember. The only password I have to remember is my Lastpass password, they handle the rest. Granted, this relies on two things: 1. Nobody can guess my Lastpass password 2. Lastpass's security and encryption is good enough to prevent the master password data falling into the wrong hands and being decrytped in a useful amount of time. So far it's working, but if you bank online or use credit cards online, the watchword is vigilance ;-) BTW, are you wondering if one of the recent hacks (Sony, Citicard, etc) has compromised your password or email address? If not, you probably should be, so check out this tool: https://shouldichangemypassword.com/ It's legit and simply searches the data that has been leaked from sites like Sony to see if your email address is in leaked data. But how can you be sure some Lastpass employee doesn't sell a bunch of passwords to someone else for progit? In the same way, I won't know if some crooked store employee or waiter doesn't swell my credit card information to someone else. In a word, its impossible to completely protect yourself from criminals. |
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