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  #31  
Old January 17th 04, 10:59 PM
Suzie-Q
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Christina wrote:

Hi Sue and thanks for the advice! If you read my response to Lauren, you'll
see that I have been buying Walmart brand "Special Kitty". Can you tell me
about how much a bag of Purina ONE costs? Thank you!!


I think a seven pound bag costs about seven dollars at Wal-Mart.
It could cost more or less where you live. Wal-Mart checks prices at
other local stores to be sure their prices are lower. (It's called
"comping," if you care!)

"Special Kitty" is probably one of the worst brands to buy, IMHO. Same
for the "Ol' Roy" Wal-Mart brand of dog food.

8^)~~~ Sue (remove the x to e-mail)
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  #32  
Old January 18th 04, 12:12 AM
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From: (GAUBSTER2)

Lauren, you are quite wrong. I know enough about feline nutrition to know
that
phosphorus and calcium levels as well as pH ranges of various cat foods can
wreak havoc on a cat's health (like the ones you suggested).


Really? So what exactly are the numbers for the ones I've suggested and what
data do you have to back up any claims you make? Any food that isn't Scie Die
in your book is bad. You need to do some research really.

You just don't
like the truth, so you try to paint me as a troll.


LOL, the fact is you ARE a troll, from the very first post you made here. You
never post anything helpful and only post inflammatory remarks. I don't know
why I'm wasting my time replying to you. You're as thick as a brick.

You, on the other hand, have contradicted yourself so often here before, as
to
show that you've been less than truthful on a number of subjects. I (as well
as others) have pointed this out and you think we are the trolls?


LOL, here you go again. I've never lied, you just choose to not believe it
when I told you my previous cats did so poorly on your cherised Science Diet.
But unfortunately they did do poorly and didn't improve until I switched to
another brand. I know you don't want to hear this, but it's the truth and you
should learn to accept it instead of crying that I'm a liar.

I've
provided a lot of good, helpful info in the past.


Now THAT is really hysterical. You have NEVER, not once, ever provided
anything useful to anyone. You just run off at the mouth with nothing to say
or no data to back up your claims. You know what I find very odd? You have
never posted in any threads about cat behavior, declawing, etc. Do you have
any opinions other than to feed Science Diet?

Just because it flies in the
face of what you preach, doesn't mean that you're right and everyone else is
wrong.


Nope, just you, Chris, just you.

Christina should make up her own mind.


I'm sure she will
________
See my cats:
http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm
  #33  
Old January 18th 04, 12:12 AM
PawsForThought
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From: (GAUBSTER2)

Lauren, you are quite wrong. I know enough about feline nutrition to know
that
phosphorus and calcium levels as well as pH ranges of various cat foods can
wreak havoc on a cat's health (like the ones you suggested).


Really? So what exactly are the numbers for the ones I've suggested and what
data do you have to back up any claims you make? Any food that isn't Scie Die
in your book is bad. You need to do some research really.

You just don't
like the truth, so you try to paint me as a troll.


LOL, the fact is you ARE a troll, from the very first post you made here. You
never post anything helpful and only post inflammatory remarks. I don't know
why I'm wasting my time replying to you. You're as thick as a brick.

You, on the other hand, have contradicted yourself so often here before, as
to
show that you've been less than truthful on a number of subjects. I (as well
as others) have pointed this out and you think we are the trolls?


LOL, here you go again. I've never lied, you just choose to not believe it
when I told you my previous cats did so poorly on your cherised Science Diet.
But unfortunately they did do poorly and didn't improve until I switched to
another brand. I know you don't want to hear this, but it's the truth and you
should learn to accept it instead of crying that I'm a liar.

I've
provided a lot of good, helpful info in the past.


Now THAT is really hysterical. You have NEVER, not once, ever provided
anything useful to anyone. You just run off at the mouth with nothing to say
or no data to back up your claims. You know what I find very odd? You have
never posted in any threads about cat behavior, declawing, etc. Do you have
any opinions other than to feed Science Diet?

Just because it flies in the
face of what you preach, doesn't mean that you're right and everyone else is
wrong.


Nope, just you, Chris, just you.

Christina should make up her own mind.


I'm sure she will
________
See my cats:
http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm
  #34  
Old January 18th 04, 12:12 AM
PawsForThought
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From: (GAUBSTER2)

Lauren, you are quite wrong. I know enough about feline nutrition to know
that
phosphorus and calcium levels as well as pH ranges of various cat foods can
wreak havoc on a cat's health (like the ones you suggested).


Really? So what exactly are the numbers for the ones I've suggested and what
data do you have to back up any claims you make? Any food that isn't Scie Die
in your book is bad. You need to do some research really.

You just don't
like the truth, so you try to paint me as a troll.


LOL, the fact is you ARE a troll, from the very first post you made here. You
never post anything helpful and only post inflammatory remarks. I don't know
why I'm wasting my time replying to you. You're as thick as a brick.

You, on the other hand, have contradicted yourself so often here before, as
to
show that you've been less than truthful on a number of subjects. I (as well
as others) have pointed this out and you think we are the trolls?


LOL, here you go again. I've never lied, you just choose to not believe it
when I told you my previous cats did so poorly on your cherised Science Diet.
But unfortunately they did do poorly and didn't improve until I switched to
another brand. I know you don't want to hear this, but it's the truth and you
should learn to accept it instead of crying that I'm a liar.

I've
provided a lot of good, helpful info in the past.


Now THAT is really hysterical. You have NEVER, not once, ever provided
anything useful to anyone. You just run off at the mouth with nothing to say
or no data to back up your claims. You know what I find very odd? You have
never posted in any threads about cat behavior, declawing, etc. Do you have
any opinions other than to feed Science Diet?

Just because it flies in the
face of what you preach, doesn't mean that you're right and everyone else is
wrong.


Nope, just you, Chris, just you.

Christina should make up her own mind.


I'm sure she will
________
See my cats:
http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm
  #35  
Old January 18th 04, 02:23 AM
GAUBSTER2
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You just don't
like the truth, so you try to paint me as a troll.


LOL, the fact is you ARE a troll, from the very first post you made here.
You
never post anything helpful and only post inflammatory remarks. I don't know
why I'm wasting my time replying to you. You're as thick as a brick.


I've asked you to killfile me before because of your bitter, rude, nasty
insults hurled my way. You've even said that you would, and yet you never do.
Obviously you don't really think I'm a troll or you would have killfiled me
already. (actually that's just one of the lies you've told, now that I think
about it).

You, on the other hand, have contradicted yourself so often here before, as
to
show that you've been less than truthful on a number of subjects. I (as

well
as others) have pointed this out and you think we are the trolls?


LOL, here you go again. I've never lied, you just choose to not believe it
when I told you my previous cats did so poorly on your cherised Science Diet.


No, I've said that I have BELIEVED you, yet you continue to insist that I've
never said that. Do a google search and you'll see for yourself. As for the
Science Diet issue, Phil P has posted a litany of contradictory remarks that
YOU YOURSELF have made over the years. Those are the lies I'm talking about.

I've
provided a lot of good, helpful info in the past.


Now THAT is really hysterical. You have NEVER, not once, ever provided
anything useful to anyone. You just run off at the mouth with nothing to say
or no data to back up your claims.


Oh really? You always dispute the data that I DO provide, so what exactly do
you want? Try cracking open Small Animal Clinical Nutrition sometime and
you'll see my cites.

You know what I find very odd? You have
never posted in any threads about cat behavior, declawing, etc. Do you have
any opinions other than to feed Science Diet?


Why is that odd? I choose not to jump into those particular discussions
because they get bogged down in emotional screamfests. I don't particularly
care one way or the other about declawing. I know that's not the politically
correct thing to say, but so what? As for nutrition, most people (yourself
included) only look at ingredient labels and then proclaim yourself an
"expert". I delve deeper into the issue and you don't like it for some reason.


  #36  
Old January 18th 04, 02:23 AM
GAUBSTER2
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You just don't
like the truth, so you try to paint me as a troll.


LOL, the fact is you ARE a troll, from the very first post you made here.
You
never post anything helpful and only post inflammatory remarks. I don't know
why I'm wasting my time replying to you. You're as thick as a brick.


I've asked you to killfile me before because of your bitter, rude, nasty
insults hurled my way. You've even said that you would, and yet you never do.
Obviously you don't really think I'm a troll or you would have killfiled me
already. (actually that's just one of the lies you've told, now that I think
about it).

You, on the other hand, have contradicted yourself so often here before, as
to
show that you've been less than truthful on a number of subjects. I (as

well
as others) have pointed this out and you think we are the trolls?


LOL, here you go again. I've never lied, you just choose to not believe it
when I told you my previous cats did so poorly on your cherised Science Diet.


No, I've said that I have BELIEVED you, yet you continue to insist that I've
never said that. Do a google search and you'll see for yourself. As for the
Science Diet issue, Phil P has posted a litany of contradictory remarks that
YOU YOURSELF have made over the years. Those are the lies I'm talking about.

I've
provided a lot of good, helpful info in the past.


Now THAT is really hysterical. You have NEVER, not once, ever provided
anything useful to anyone. You just run off at the mouth with nothing to say
or no data to back up your claims.


Oh really? You always dispute the data that I DO provide, so what exactly do
you want? Try cracking open Small Animal Clinical Nutrition sometime and
you'll see my cites.

You know what I find very odd? You have
never posted in any threads about cat behavior, declawing, etc. Do you have
any opinions other than to feed Science Diet?


Why is that odd? I choose not to jump into those particular discussions
because they get bogged down in emotional screamfests. I don't particularly
care one way or the other about declawing. I know that's not the politically
correct thing to say, but so what? As for nutrition, most people (yourself
included) only look at ingredient labels and then proclaim yourself an
"expert". I delve deeper into the issue and you don't like it for some reason.


  #37  
Old January 18th 04, 02:23 AM
GAUBSTER2
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You just don't
like the truth, so you try to paint me as a troll.


LOL, the fact is you ARE a troll, from the very first post you made here.
You
never post anything helpful and only post inflammatory remarks. I don't know
why I'm wasting my time replying to you. You're as thick as a brick.


I've asked you to killfile me before because of your bitter, rude, nasty
insults hurled my way. You've even said that you would, and yet you never do.
Obviously you don't really think I'm a troll or you would have killfiled me
already. (actually that's just one of the lies you've told, now that I think
about it).

You, on the other hand, have contradicted yourself so often here before, as
to
show that you've been less than truthful on a number of subjects. I (as

well
as others) have pointed this out and you think we are the trolls?


LOL, here you go again. I've never lied, you just choose to not believe it
when I told you my previous cats did so poorly on your cherised Science Diet.


No, I've said that I have BELIEVED you, yet you continue to insist that I've
never said that. Do a google search and you'll see for yourself. As for the
Science Diet issue, Phil P has posted a litany of contradictory remarks that
YOU YOURSELF have made over the years. Those are the lies I'm talking about.

I've
provided a lot of good, helpful info in the past.


Now THAT is really hysterical. You have NEVER, not once, ever provided
anything useful to anyone. You just run off at the mouth with nothing to say
or no data to back up your claims.


Oh really? You always dispute the data that I DO provide, so what exactly do
you want? Try cracking open Small Animal Clinical Nutrition sometime and
you'll see my cites.

You know what I find very odd? You have
never posted in any threads about cat behavior, declawing, etc. Do you have
any opinions other than to feed Science Diet?


Why is that odd? I choose not to jump into those particular discussions
because they get bogged down in emotional screamfests. I don't particularly
care one way or the other about declawing. I know that's not the politically
correct thing to say, but so what? As for nutrition, most people (yourself
included) only look at ingredient labels and then proclaim yourself an
"expert". I delve deeper into the issue and you don't like it for some reason.


  #38  
Old January 18th 04, 07:54 PM
stormlady
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I give my two cats dry food only, and lots of water too. A few times I have
tried to give them wet food, they haven't been too interested. I buy my
cats medi-cal, which is only available at the vet clinic and my cats love
it. However, this food is about $15 for 2 kg so is probably a little more
than you are going to spend. The wal-mart special kitty though, is not a
very good food. If you were to switch to a slightly more expensive food,
you would find that the cats are probably not eating quite as much and that
they are not using the litter quite as much and that the litter is better
(easier to scoop) This is because the more expensive cat foods are more
nutritionally complete and the cats do not need to eat as much of it. If
you do decide to switch foods though, make sure that you mix the new food
with their current food and increasethe amount of the new food over a week
or more period of they may just reject the new food because it is different.
"Christina" wrote in message
...
I give my two kitties (almost one year old) dry cat food....is this okay

or
should I be giving them canned?

Thanks!

Christina

--
http://www.geocities.com/christinamarie29/ourpage.html




  #39  
Old January 18th 04, 07:54 PM
stormlady
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I give my two cats dry food only, and lots of water too. A few times I have
tried to give them wet food, they haven't been too interested. I buy my
cats medi-cal, which is only available at the vet clinic and my cats love
it. However, this food is about $15 for 2 kg so is probably a little more
than you are going to spend. The wal-mart special kitty though, is not a
very good food. If you were to switch to a slightly more expensive food,
you would find that the cats are probably not eating quite as much and that
they are not using the litter quite as much and that the litter is better
(easier to scoop) This is because the more expensive cat foods are more
nutritionally complete and the cats do not need to eat as much of it. If
you do decide to switch foods though, make sure that you mix the new food
with their current food and increasethe amount of the new food over a week
or more period of they may just reject the new food because it is different.
"Christina" wrote in message
...
I give my two kitties (almost one year old) dry cat food....is this okay

or
should I be giving them canned?

Thanks!

Christina

--
http://www.geocities.com/christinamarie29/ourpage.html




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Old January 18th 04, 07:54 PM
stormlady
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I give my two cats dry food only, and lots of water too. A few times I have
tried to give them wet food, they haven't been too interested. I buy my
cats medi-cal, which is only available at the vet clinic and my cats love
it. However, this food is about $15 for 2 kg so is probably a little more
than you are going to spend. The wal-mart special kitty though, is not a
very good food. If you were to switch to a slightly more expensive food,
you would find that the cats are probably not eating quite as much and that
they are not using the litter quite as much and that the litter is better
(easier to scoop) This is because the more expensive cat foods are more
nutritionally complete and the cats do not need to eat as much of it. If
you do decide to switch foods though, make sure that you mix the new food
with their current food and increasethe amount of the new food over a week
or more period of they may just reject the new food because it is different.
"Christina" wrote in message
...
I give my two kitties (almost one year old) dry cat food....is this okay

or
should I be giving them canned?

Thanks!

Christina

--
http://www.geocities.com/christinamarie29/ourpage.html




 




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