Food for flat nosed cat?

I was asked about this by a woman I know who adopted a flat-nosed
Himalayan (sp?). Is there a particular kind of bowl or food that is best
for such a cat? He has a harder time eating his food. She just got the
Royal Canin for Persians, but I don't know if that is for Persians due
to their flat faces, or some kind of special dietary requirements?
Anybody?? Thanks!

K

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"Karen M." wrote:

I was asked about this by a woman I know who adopted a flat-nosed
Himalayan (sp?). Is there a particular kind of bowl or food that is best
for such a cat? He has a harder time eating his food. She just got the
Royal Canin for Persians, but I don't know if that is for Persians due
to their flat faces, or some kind of special dietary requirements?
Anybody?? Thanks!

Flat-faced or brachycephalic critters have a lot less mouth space in
which to fit the same number of teeth as their cohorts of normal skull
structure. The crowding leads to increased problems with plaque, tartar,
oral health in general.

So if I had an extreme Himi or Persian I'd be quite eager to get him or
her on a good dental diet. Since the only commercial "dental diets" are
kibbles, and we can generally agree that food with a high moisture
content is best for cats, I think that a diet based on meaty bones would
be MY first line of offense if I owned such a cat.

I think that Royal Canin's food is specific to the cat's long hair more
than its awkward skull structure.

-Alison in OH

In article ,
"Karen M." wrote:

I was asked about this by a woman I know who adopted a flat-nosed
Himalayan (sp?). Is there a particular kind of bowl or food that is best
for such a cat? He has a harder time eating his food. She just got the
Royal Canin for Persians, but I don't know if that is for Persians due
to their flat faces, or some kind of special dietary requirements?
Anybody?? Thanks!

Flat-faced or brachycephalic critters have a lot less mouth space in
which to fit the same number of teeth as their cohorts of normal skull
structure. The crowding leads to increased problems with plaque, tartar,
oral health in general.

So if I had an extreme Himi or Persian I'd be quite eager to get him or
her on a good dental diet. Since the only commercial "dental diets" are
kibbles, and we can generally agree that food with a high moisture
content is best for cats, I think that a diet based on meaty bones would
be MY first line of offense if I owned such a cat.

I think that Royal Canin's food is specific to the cat's long hair more
than its awkward skull structure.

-Alison in OH

From: Alison Perera lid

In article ,
"Karen M." wrote:

I was asked about this by a woman I know who adopted a flat-nosed
Himalayan (sp?). Is there a particular kind of bowl or food that is best
for such a cat? He has a harder time eating his food. She just got the
Royal Canin for Persians, but I don't know if that is for Persians due
to their flat faces, or some kind of special dietary requirements?
Anybody?? Thanks!

Flat-faced or brachycephalic critters have a lot less mouth space in
which to fit the same number of teeth as their cohorts of normal skull
structure. The crowding leads to increased problems with plaque, tartar,
oral health in general.

I wonder if Persians always had this problem or if it's just from the way
they've been bred. It must be hard for them to breath with that pushed in
nose.



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From: Alison Perera lid

In article ,
"Karen M." wrote:

I was asked about this by a woman I know who adopted a flat-nosed
Himalayan (sp?). Is there a particular kind of bowl or food that is best
for such a cat? He has a harder time eating his food. She just got the
Royal Canin for Persians, but I don't know if that is for Persians due
to their flat faces, or some kind of special dietary requirements?
Anybody?? Thanks!

Flat-faced or brachycephalic critters have a lot less mouth space in
which to fit the same number of teeth as their cohorts of normal skull
structure. The crowding leads to increased problems with plaque, tartar,
oral health in general.

I wonder if Persians always had this problem or if it's just from the way
they've been bred. It must be hard for them to breath with that pushed in
nose.



________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

In article , darnit7
@aol.comnolitter enlightened us with...

I wonder if Persians always had this problem or if it's just from the way
they've been bred. It must be hard for them to breath with that pushed in
nose.


Originally, Persians did not have snub faces and looked very much like
Angoras. They were gradually bred that way over time, and the "doll-
face" still exists in some places, though is not nearly as popular as
the flat face and I'm not sure if American clubs allow it as standard.

IMO, it is much more attractive. I don't know why they would breed for
such a flat face.

Here's some pics of the doll-face variety of Persian as well as some
brief history. The last link shows that some people do still breed for
the doll-face rather than the flat-face.
http://www.thecatsite.com/cat_breeds....php?a=persian
http://www.traditionalcats.com/Breed...ianHistory.htm
http://www.rockymountainpersians.com/doll_face_persians

They do have a lot more breathing problems with that flattened facial
structure from everything I've read. IMO, Purposefully breeding animals
to be brachycephalic is cruel. It's like breeding for deformity.

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In article , darnit7
@aol.comnolitter enlightened us with...

I wonder if Persians always had this problem or if it's just from the way
they've been bred. It must be hard for them to breath with that pushed in
nose.


Originally, Persians did not have snub faces and looked very much like
Angoras. They were gradually bred that way over time, and the "doll-
face" still exists in some places, though is not nearly as popular as
the flat face and I'm not sure if American clubs allow it as standard.

IMO, it is much more attractive. I don't know why they would breed for
such a flat face.

Here's some pics of the doll-face variety of Persian as well as some
brief history. The last link shows that some people do still breed for
the doll-face rather than the flat-face.
http://www.thecatsite.com/cat_breeds....php?a=persian
http://www.traditionalcats.com/Breed...ianHistory.htm
http://www.rockymountainpersians.com/doll_face_persians

They do have a lot more breathing problems with that flattened facial
structure from everything I've read. IMO, Purposefully breeding animals
to be brachycephalic is cruel. It's like breeding for deformity.

-------------------------------------------------
~kaeli~
Jesus saves, Allah protects, and Cthulhu
thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.
http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart
http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:56:26 -0800, "Karen M."
wrote:

I was asked about this by a woman I know who adopted a flat-nosed
Himalayan (sp?). Is there a particular kind of bowl or food that is best
for such a cat? He has a harder time eating his food. She just got the
Royal Canin for Persians, but I don't know if that is for Persians due
to their flat faces, or some kind of special dietary requirements?
Anybody?? Thanks!

K
Whatever she feeds her Persian, it seems to me a saucer would be
easier than a bowl for the cat. MLB

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:56:26 -0800, "Karen M."
wrote:

I was asked about this by a woman I know who adopted a flat-nosed
Himalayan (sp?). Is there a particular kind of bowl or food that is best
for such a cat? He has a harder time eating his food. She just got the
Royal Canin for Persians, but I don't know if that is for Persians due
to their flat faces, or some kind of special dietary requirements?
Anybody?? Thanks!

K
Whatever she feeds her Persian, it seems to me a saucer would be
easier than a bowl for the cat. MLB

"kaeli" wrote in message
...
In article , darnit7
@aol.comnolitter enlightened us with...

I wonder if Persians always had this problem or if it's just from the
way
they've been bred. It must be hard for them to breath with that pushed
in
nose.


Originally, Persians did not have snub faces and looked very much like
Angoras. They were gradually bred that way over time, and the "doll-
face" still exists in some places, though is not nearly as popular as
the flat face and I'm not sure if American clubs allow it as standard.

IMO, it is much more attractive. I don't know why they would breed for
such a flat face.

Here's some pics of the doll-face variety of Persian as well as some
brief history. The last link shows that some people do still breed for
the doll-face rather than the flat-face.
http://www.thecatsite.com/cat_breeds....php?a=persian
http://www.traditionalcats.com/Breed...ianHistory.htm
http://www.rockymountainpersians.com/doll_face_persians


I have a book with lots of the old Persian photos in it,, what a beautiful
cat it WAS..... my friend has a Ragdoll x Persians which look just like
the old Persians ... NO flat faced, they are beautiful looking cats.