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Scottish Fold kitten seems lonely or in heat!
On 26 Jun, 13:26, "
wrote: On Jun 26, 8:20 am, sheelagh wrote: On 25 Jun, 19:43, " wrote: On Jun 25, 2:40 pm, " wrote: Hey thanks for the response! I think you're right. She actually only seems to cry a lot when she's left alone in the room. I think she's had people and other kittens around her since her birth so being alone is very new to her. She only eats when someone's in the room too. I wanted to show this video that I took this morning of her eating. mind the poor quality (requires QuickTime), but listen to the noise she makes when she eats! it's adorable! oops, forgot to include the link!http://www.t-mobilepictures.com/phot...ad02355cde.3gp... The noise she is making is usually associated with an experience of having to fight for her food. A *lot* of the kittens that we foster make a similar noise to the one that your Kitty displays. Perhaps it is possible that she is the runt of the litter and had to fight for her food, or that someone has teased her in the past by taking her food away from her?? Same as Bookie, I wouldn't be too concerned about her not wanting to come out just yet. I have also had a Ragdoll adult who displayed the same behavior when we first got him. It took a couple of weeks for him to decide that we could be trusted. All he ever came out for was to use the cat litter in the same room as him, & eat and drink too. The very fact that she trust you enough to come out & eat in your presence, is enough for the first couple of weeks. However, if it continues for more than 3weeks or so, it might be worth taking her to see a vet who might be able to give you advice regarding this matter. Remember, she is only a small baby & this is the first time that she has ever left home and is probably lonely and frightened. I have a feeling that the best solution to this problem, might be to get another kitten from a rescue centre perhaps if this is possible? ) It would solve her loneliness and you would be giving a kitty/ cat the one thing they don't have @ a shelter, which is a Future. Unfortunately, so many are killed every where & all they require is love, injections and feeding, & they will repay you a thousand fold.... ( And this advice is coming from an ex breeder of Birmans and Ragdolls by the way!!) She looks lovely by the way. I hope that she brings you love and Joy, & It would be really nice if you kept in touch with us to let us know how she is doing please? Many thanx, Sheelagh Thanks for the kind response Oh that's good to hear about the eating thing, i had a feeling it was something like that. Well we actually have another kitten (8 week old male, Beowulf), and we introduced them yesterday. I honestly can't tell if they're play fighting or not some of the time. They don't seem to hate each other, but they don't exactly get close. Even knowing she has a mate she can hang out with, she's still crying under the bed for attention. Though Beowulf is a very feisty guy; he loves to wrestle. I can't say she hates it because she starts the quarrels some of the time! No claws and no hard biting as far as I can tell. I've noticed in the past few days that she is just VERY used to having something or someone nearby at all times. So now that I'm not talking to her as i write this, she's crying away under the bed again. I really hope that goes away over time. She has been eating, wet and dry food. Using the bathroom regularly, etc. So everything seems good in that respect. again, thanks for the reply. I have a vet appointment for today to have her checked out.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well we actually have another kitten (8 week old male, Beowulf), and we introduced them yesterday. I honestly can't tell if they're play fighting or not some of the time. They don't seem to hate each other, but they don't exactly get close. Even knowing she has a mate she can hang out with, she's still crying under the bed for attention. Though Beowulf is a very feisty guy; he loves to wrestle. I can't say she hates it because she starts the quarrels some of the time! No claws and no hard biting as far as I can tell. If I were you, I would try to limit the amount of time that they spend together in the first few weeks, simply because it gives them the chance to get to know one another without the hissing & spitting.( If they are?) It also gives them the opportunity to see that they will get your attention when they need it too. With kittens, mock fighting is something they do naturally with their siblings in their litter. They do this to prepare themselves for when they get older, to defend themselves, & to learn Cat-Behaviour. You might see it displayed like this: When they curl up whilst rough & tumbling, it means they are submitting, when they puff themselves up & their little tails go puffy- fluffy too, this is a show of making themselves look bigger than they actually are, &is trying to be dominant.. All of this is learnt when they are with their litter mates, so it is simply a question of recognising if your scottish fold feels threatened, and if she does, then you need to take one of them away from the other. (separate them for a short while) Below are a few links for you to look at, so that you might better understand what your kitty is trying to tell you, or wants from you. I hope that they are of some benefit to you http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/P.../behavior.html http://www.fabcats.org/behaviour_kitten.html http://home.howstuffworks.com/how-to...-problems1.htm http://www.vin.com/VINDBPub/SearchPB...00/PR00025.htm I've noticed in the past few days that she is just VERY used to having something or someone nearby at all times. So now that I'm not talking to her as i write this, she's crying away under the bed again. I really hope that goes away over time. She has been eating, wet and dry food. Using the bathroom regularly, etc. So everything seems good in that respect. You are most probably right. Any idea how many kittens there were in her litter? It is quite possible that she is used to having quite a bit of attention, & without it, she is asking you for it. Gentle persuasion to come out from under the bed when Beowulf is not around. The more only time that she get with you, the more that she will trust you, & your judgment when he is around her... See if you can pursued her to sit with you, on your lap for a while, & speak to her quietly and gently. The quicker you build that trust, the easier she will find it to cope without you there. She will know that you are in the background, but not have such a need for your full attention. It does sound rather like a dependency problem than a behavioural problem. If her eating, litter training & every other aspect is going fine, then I don't think it will be a BIG Problem. Of course, don't forget that Beowulf will need the same type of attention, just make sure that they get equal share of your one to one time, as & when you can... again, thanks for the reply. I have a vet appointment for today to You are most welcome. Good luck @ the vets, & Keep us updated when you have the time to? Thanx, Sheelagh |
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Scottish Fold kitten seems lonely or in heat!
"Charlie Wilkes" wrote Interesting. It's none of my business, but I'm curious why you bought this particular type of cat rather than getting a free cat at a shelter. Because Scottish Folds are COOL, you know, like an unusual and expensive CAR or something, and people will think he is really SOMETHING for paying all that money just for a CAT, you know? I mean, if he can spend money like that on a CAT, he must really be rolling in it. A SHELTER CAT? *Snort* Anybody can have one of those. Plus, he got a bargain one. Something about they're so disgustingly inbred you have to pay a whole lot for the REALLY GOOD little freak cats. Nice trolling, Charlie. You reeled me right in. |
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Scottish Fold kitten seems lonely or in heat!
"sheelagh" wrote in message oups.com... snip Do shelters allow you to pick a kitten for free in the states? No. The charge is anywhere from $50 to $100 to cover the cost of exam, vaccinations, and spay/neuter if the cat is more than a few months old, which is really a bargain when you think of it. At my vet, all of this would probably run well over $200 for a male and around $300 for a female. The reason I ask you this, is because to adopt a cat/ kitty over here, even from a rescue centre, they still charge around £50-60 ($100-120)! Mind you, that is with injections and spayed too if old enough. To meet these costs, I think they have to charge, & 99'999% of people would gladly pay it, to have a ready taken care of kitty or cat... Having said that, there are lots of kittens in the classifieds going for free, from private families who simply want to home their litters of kittens because they never bothered getting their cat spayed. I'm, sure this must be possible in the states too? Yes. "Free" kittens are never really free. In our vet's office, one of the local shelters is advertising a special where if you adopt one of their kitties ($90), you can adopt a second one "free." My husband and I chuckled over that one (that particular day's bill was *only* $87 dollars for the exam and the subcu fluids for Alex. The previous week's bill was also over $80 for the "mini-blood panel" and the special food). The adoption fee is the least of the expenses of a good cat slave. Best regards, ---Cindy S. |
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Scottish Fold kitten seems lonely or in heat!
On 26 Jun, 13:26, "
wrote: On Jun 26, 8:20 am, sheelagh wrote: On 25 Jun, 19:43, " wrote: On Jun 25, 2:40 pm, " wrote: Hey thanks for the response! I think you're right. She actually only seems to cry a lot when she's left alone in the room. I think she's had people and other kittens around her since her birth so being alone is very new to her. She only eats when someone's in the room too. I wanted to show this video that I took this morning of her eating. mind the poor quality (requires QuickTime), but listen to the noise she makes when she eats! it's adorable! oops, forgot to include the link!http://www.t-mobilepictures.com/phot...ad02355cde.3gp... The noise she is making is usually associated with an experience of having to fight for her food. A *lot* of the kittens that we foster make a similar noise to the one that your Kitty displays. Perhaps it is possible that she is the runt of the litter and had to fight for her food, or that someone has teased her in the past by taking her food away from her?? Same as Bookie, I wouldn't be too concerned about her not wanting to come out just yet. I have also had a Ragdoll adult who displayed the same behavior when we first got him. It took a couple of weeks for him to decide that we could be trusted. All he ever came out for was to use the cat litter in the same room as him, & eat and drink too. The very fact that she trust you enough to come out & eat in your presence, is enough for the first couple of weeks. However, if it continues for more than 3weeks or so, it might be worth taking her to see a vet who might be able to give you advice regarding this matter. Remember, she is only a small baby & this is the first time that she has ever left home and is probably lonely and frightened. I have a feeling that the best solution to this problem, might be to get another kitten from a rescue centre perhaps if this is possible? ) It would solve her loneliness and you would be giving a kitty/ cat the one thing they don't have @ a shelter, which is a Future. Unfortunately, so many are killed every where & all they require is love, injections and feeding, & they will repay you a thousand fold.... ( And this advice is coming from an ex breeder of Birmans and Ragdolls by the way!!) She looks lovely by the way. I hope that she brings you love and Joy, & It would be really nice if you kept in touch with us to let us know how she is doing please? Many thanx, Sheelagh Thanks for the kind response Oh that's good to hear about the eating thing, i had a feeling it was something like that. Well we actually have another kitten (8 week old male, Beowulf), and we introduced them yesterday. I honestly can't tell if they're play fighting or not some of the time. They don't seem to hate each other, but they don't exactly get close. Even knowing she has a mate she can hang out with, she's still crying under the bed for attention. Though Beowulf is a very feisty guy; he loves to wrestle. I can't say she hates it because she starts the quarrels some of the time! No claws and no hard biting as far as I can tell. I've noticed in the past few days that she is just VERY used to having something or someone nearby at all times. So now that I'm not talking to her as i write this, she's crying away under the bed again. I really hope that goes away over time. She has been eating, wet and dry food. Using the bathroom regularly, etc. So everything seems good in that respect. again, thanks for the reply. I have a vet appointment for today to have her checked out.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - poor little mite, she is probably very scared and unhappy, is there really no chance you can get one of her litter mates too? beowulf may be a bit too dominant for her and too boisterous. what about using a feliway diffuser to calm the astmosphere for her, you can get these easily from the vets, ask when you take her there. i feel so sad for this poor little angel, she must miss her mum so bad :-( bookie |
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Scottish Fold kitten seems lonely or in heat!
On Jun 26, 8:27 am, sheelagh wrote:
On 26 Jun, 06:54, Charlie Wilkes wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:29:31 +0000, wrote: On Jun 25, 6:55 pm, bookie wrote: On 25 Jun, 19:43, " wrote: On Jun 25, 2:40 pm, " wrote: Hey thanks for the response! I think you're right. She actually only seems to cry a lot when she's left alone in the room. I think she's had people and other kittens around her since her birth so being alone is very new to her. She only eats when someone's in the room too. I wanted to show this video that I took this morning of her eating. mind the poor quality (requires QuickTime), but listen to the noise she makes when she eats! it's adorable! oops, forgot to include the link!http://www.t-mobilepictures.com/photos/photo22/90/ f1/05ad02355cde.3gp... are you sure she is a scottish fold? her ears seem to be fairly upright and pointy and not particularly folded over at all She's definitely a fold, but you can't breed two folded ears together due to health defects; so some of them end up coming out pointed, others straigfht. The pointed ones are...more affordable. Still has the same adorable face, though. Interesting. It's none of my business, but I'm curious why you bought this particular type of cat rather than getting a free cat at a shelter. Charlie- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Do shelters allow you to pick a kitten for free in the states Charlie? No, they don't. The reason I ask you this, is because to adopt a cat/ kitty over here, even from a rescue centre, they still charge around £50-60 ($100-120)! Mind you, that is with injections and spayed too if old enough. To meet these costs, I think they have to charge, & 99'999% of people would gladly pay it, to have a ready taken care of kitty or cat... It's about the same here. Costs vary somewhat, depending on what part of the country, but that sounds about normal. Having said that, there are lots of kittens in the classifieds going for free, from private families who simply want to home their litters of kittens because they never bothered getting their cat spayed. I'm, sure this must be possible in the states too? Depends on the part of the country. There are big regional variations in how likely people are to spay and neuter their pets, and of course because of different conditions we're generally less likey than you in the UK to let our cats outside. Lis |
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Scottish Fold kitten seems lonely or in heat!
On 26 Jun, 16:27, "cindys" wrote:
"sheelagh" wrote in message oups.com... snip Do shelters allow you to pick a kitten for free in the states? No. The charge is anywhere from $50 to $100 to cover the cost of exam, vaccinations, and spay/neuter if the cat is more than a few months old, which is really a bargain when you think of it. At my vet, all of this would probably run well over $200 for a male and around $300 for a female. The reason I ask you this, is because to adopt a cat/ kitty over here, even from a rescue centre, they still charge around £50-60 ($100-120)! Mind you, that is with injections and spayed too if old enough. To meet these costs, I think they have to charge, & 99'999% of people would gladly pay it, to have a ready taken care of kitty or cat... Having said that, there are lots of kittens in the classifieds going for free, from private families who simply want to home their litters of kittens because they never bothered getting their cat spayed. I'm, sure this must be possible in the states too? Yes. "Free" kittens are never really free. In our vet's office, one of the local shelters is advertising a special where if you adopt one of their kitties ($90), you can adopt a second one "free." My husband and I chuckled over that one (that particular day's bill was *only* $87 dollars for the exam and the subcu fluids for Alex. The previous week's bill was also over $80 for the "mini-blood panel" and the special food). The adoption fee is the least of the expenses of a good cat slave. Best regards, ---Cindy S. titter, he he You are right of course! If I could get my cats to get all that work done for that price, I would snatch their hands of too;o) Cat -Slaving is a very expensive occupational hazard. The purchase price is nothing other than a true bargain.. it's the work that follows it that flattens you, isn't it? When Ringo was shot, & Lilly got pyometra within a couple of months of each other, my poor bank manger was having 40 fits & needed heart tablets to cope with the stress of it all. I can't say that I enjoyed it very much myself either. Or my poor cats come to that.... ( I have just received the last payment from the boy's parent's, yesterday- About time too!!...I'm just glad I don't have to even speak to them anymore. I feel no sorrow for them @ all- after all, I had to find the money to pay it before they even admitted liability. It makes me sick to think about it!) It is just nice to hear that Beowulf has got the same chance that little Scottie fold has too. I forgot to ask what her name was, sorry for that afairjudgement- what is her name? I'm sure that with love, some feliway, time & attention, they will grow to tolerate each other, & perhaps become even close given these attributes as they grow up together. Some kitties just take a bit longer to adapt than others do.. S;o) |
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:27:15 -0700, sheelagh wrote:
On 26 Jun, 06:54, Charlie Wilkes wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:29:31 +0000, wrote: On Jun 25, 6:55 pm, bookie wrote: are you sure she is a scottish fold? her ears seem to be fairly upright and pointy and not particularly folded over at all She's definitely a fold, but you can't breed two folded ears together due to health defects; so some of them end up coming out pointed, others straigfht. The pointed ones are...more affordable. Still has the same adorable face, though. Interesting. It's none of my business, but I'm curious why you bought this particular type of cat rather than getting a free cat at a shelter. Do shelters allow you to pick a kitten for free in the states Charlie? The reason I ask you this, is because to adopt a cat/ kitty over here, even from a rescue centre, they still charge around 50-60 ($100-120)! Mind you, that is with injections and spayed too if old enough. To meet these costs, I think they have to charge, & 99'999% of people would gladly pay it, to have a ready taken care of kitty or cat... The American system is no different. The cat itself is free, but the person who adopts it must pay the cost of spay/neuter and vaccinations. Having said that, there are lots of kittens in the classifieds going for free, from private families who simply want to home their litters of kittens because they never bothered getting their cat spayed. I'm, sure this must be possible in the states too? Of course. I scraped my cat off a road in the middle of the night, and he turned out to be a very valuable animal. Charlie |
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Scottish Fold kitten seems lonely or in heat!
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:44:03 -0400, cybercat wrote:
Nice trolling, Charlie. You reeled me right in. I'm not trolling. I'm simply curious about why someone would buy a "Scottish Fold" kitten that lacks the very trait from which the breed gets its name. Charlie |
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"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message news On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:44:03 -0400, cybercat wrote: Nice trolling, Charlie. You reeled me right in. I'm not trolling. I'm simply curious about why someone would buy a "Scottish Fold" kitten that lacks the very trait from which the breed gets its name. ----- The Scottish Fold kitties have a reputation for being incredibly sweet and loving. Best regards, ---Cindy S. |
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Scottish Fold kitten seems lonely or in heat!
"cindys" wrote in message ... "Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message news On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:44:03 -0400, cybercat wrote: Nice trolling, Charlie. You reeled me right in. I'm not trolling. I'm simply curious about why someone would buy a "Scottish Fold" kitten that lacks the very trait from which the breed gets its name. ----- The Scottish Fold kitties have a reputation for being incredibly sweet and loving. So does my little rescue tabby. |
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