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Old June 26th 07, 02:58 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
sheelagh
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Default Scottish Fold kitten seems lonely or in heat!

On 26 Jun, 13:26, "
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On Jun 26, 8:20 am, sheelagh wrote:





On 25 Jun, 19:43, "


wrote:
On Jun 25, 2:40 pm, "


wrote:
Hey thanks for the response!
I think you're right. She actually only seems to cry a lot when she's
left alone in the room. I think she's had people and other kittens
around her since her birth so being alone is very new to her. She only
eats when someone's in the room too. I wanted to show this video that
I took this morning of her eating. mind the poor quality (requires
QuickTime), but listen to the noise she makes when she eats! it's
adorable!


oops, forgot to include the link!http://www.t-mobilepictures.com/phot...ad02355cde.3gp...


The noise she is making is usually associated with an experience of
having to fight for her food. A *lot* of the kittens that we foster
make a similar noise to the one that your Kitty displays. Perhaps it
is possible that she is the runt of the litter and had to fight for
her food, or that someone has teased her in the past by taking her
food away from her??


Same as Bookie, I wouldn't be too concerned about her not wanting to
come out just yet. I have also had a Ragdoll adult who displayed the
same behavior when we first got him. It took a couple of weeks for him
to decide that we could be trusted. All he ever came out for was to
use the cat litter in the same room as him, & eat and drink too.


The very fact that she trust you enough to come out & eat in your
presence, is enough for the first couple of weeks. However, if it
continues for more than 3weeks or so, it might be worth taking her to
see a vet who might be able to give you advice regarding this matter.
Remember, she is only a small baby & this is the first time that she
has ever left home and is probably lonely and frightened.


I have a feeling that the best solution to this problem, might be to
get another kitten from a rescue centre perhaps if this is
possible? )


It would solve her loneliness and you would be giving a kitty/ cat the
one thing they don't have @ a shelter, which is a Future.
Unfortunately, so many are killed every where & all they require is
love, injections and feeding, & they will repay you a thousand
fold....
( And this advice is coming from an ex breeder of Birmans and Ragdolls
by the way!!)


She looks lovely by the way. I hope that she brings you love and Joy,
& It would be really nice if you kept in touch with us to let us know
how she is doing please?
Many thanx,
Sheelagh


Thanks for the kind response
Oh that's good to hear about the eating thing, i had a feeling it was
something like that.

Well we actually have another kitten (8 week old male, Beowulf), and
we introduced them yesterday. I honestly can't tell if they're play
fighting or not some of the time. They don't seem to hate each other,
but they don't exactly get close. Even knowing she has a mate she can
hang out with, she's still crying under the bed for attention. Though
Beowulf is a very feisty guy; he loves to wrestle. I can't say she
hates it because she starts the quarrels some of the time! No claws
and no hard biting as far as I can tell.
I've noticed in the past few days that she is just VERY used to having
something or someone nearby at all times. So now that I'm not talking
to her as i write this, she's crying away under the bed again. I
really hope that goes away over time.
She has been eating, wet and dry food. Using the bathroom regularly,
etc. So everything seems good in that respect.

again, thanks for the reply. I have a vet appointment for today to
have her checked out.- Hide quoted text -

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Well we actually have another kitten (8 week old male, Beowulf), and
we introduced them yesterday. I honestly can't tell if they're play
fighting or not some of the time. They don't seem to hate each other,
but they don't exactly get close. Even knowing she has a mate she can
hang out with, she's still crying under the bed for attention. Though
Beowulf is a very feisty guy; he loves to wrestle. I can't say she
hates it because she starts the quarrels some of the time! No claws
and no hard biting as far as I can tell.


If I were you, I would try to limit the amount of time that they spend
together in the first few weeks, simply because it gives them the
chance to get to know one another without the hissing & spitting.( If
they are?)

It also gives them the opportunity to see that they will get your
attention when they need it too. With kittens, mock fighting is
something they do naturally with their siblings in their litter. They
do this to prepare themselves for when they get older, to defend
themselves, & to learn Cat-Behaviour. You might see it displayed like
this:

When they curl up whilst rough & tumbling, it means they are
submitting, when they puff themselves up & their little tails go puffy-
fluffy too, this is a show of making themselves look bigger than they
actually are, &is trying to be dominant.. All of this is learnt when
they are with their litter mates, so it is simply a question of
recognising if your scottish fold feels threatened, and if she does,
then you need to take one of them away from the other. (separate them
for a short while)

Below are a few links for you to look at, so that you might better
understand what your kitty is trying to tell you, or wants from you. I
hope that they are of some benefit to you

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/P.../behavior.html

http://www.fabcats.org/behaviour_kitten.html

http://home.howstuffworks.com/how-to...-problems1.htm

http://www.vin.com/VINDBPub/SearchPB...00/PR00025.htm

I've noticed in the past few days that she is just VERY used to having
something or someone nearby at all times. So now that I'm not talking
to her as i write this, she's crying away under the bed again. I
really hope that goes away over time.
She has been eating, wet and dry food. Using the bathroom regularly,
etc. So everything seems good in that respect.


You are most probably right. Any idea how many kittens there were in
her litter?
It is quite possible that she is used to having quite a bit of
attention, & without it, she is asking you for it. Gentle persuasion
to come out from under the bed when Beowulf is not around. The more
only time that she get with you, the more that she will trust you, &
your judgment when he is around her...

See if you can pursued her to sit with you, on your lap for a while, &
speak to her quietly and gently. The quicker you build that trust, the
easier she will find it to cope without you there. She will know that
you are in the background, but not have such a need for your full
attention.
It does sound rather like a dependency problem than a behavioural
problem. If her eating, litter training & every other aspect is going
fine, then I don't think it will be a BIG Problem.

Of course, don't forget that Beowulf will need the same type of
attention, just make sure that they get equal share of your one to
one time, as & when you can...


again, thanks for the reply. I have a vet appointment for today to


You are most welcome. Good luck @ the vets, & Keep us updated when you
have the time to?
Thanx,
Sheelagh

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Old June 26th 07, 03:44 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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"Charlie Wilkes" wrote

Interesting. It's none of my business, but I'm curious why you bought
this particular type of cat rather than getting a free cat at a shelter.


Because Scottish Folds are COOL, you know, like an unusual and
expensive CAR or something, and people will think he is really
SOMETHING for paying all that money just for a CAT, you know?
I mean, if he can spend money like that on a CAT, he must really
be rolling in it. A SHELTER CAT? *Snort* Anybody can have one
of those.

Plus, he got a bargain one. Something about they're so disgustingly
inbred you have to pay a whole lot for the REALLY GOOD
little freak cats.

Nice trolling, Charlie. You reeled me right in.


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Old June 26th 07, 04:27 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Default Scottish Fold kitten seems lonely or in heat!


"sheelagh" wrote in message
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Do shelters allow you to pick a kitten for free in the states?


No. The charge is anywhere from $50 to $100 to cover the cost of exam,
vaccinations, and spay/neuter if the cat is more than a few months old,
which is really a bargain when you think of it. At my vet, all of this would
probably run well over $200 for a male and around $300 for a female.

The reason I ask you this, is because to adopt a cat/ kitty over here,

even from a rescue centre, they still charge around £50-60 ($100-120)!
Mind you, that is with injections and spayed too if old enough. To
meet these costs, I think they have to charge, & 99'999% of people
would gladly pay it, to have a ready taken care of kitty or cat...

Having said that, there are lots of kittens in the classifieds going

for free, from private families who simply want to home their litters
of kittens because they never bothered getting their cat spayed. I'm,
sure this must be possible in the states too?

Yes. "Free" kittens are never really free. In our vet's office, one of the
local shelters is advertising a special where if you adopt one of their
kitties ($90), you can adopt a second one "free." My husband and I chuckled
over that one (that particular day's bill was *only* $87 dollars for the
exam and the subcu fluids for Alex. The previous week's bill was also over
$80 for the "mini-blood panel" and the special food). The adoption fee is
the least of the expenses of a good cat slave.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.


  #14  
Old June 26th 07, 05:44 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
bookie
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Default Scottish Fold kitten seems lonely or in heat!

On 26 Jun, 13:26, "
wrote:
On Jun 26, 8:20 am, sheelagh wrote:





On 25 Jun, 19:43, "


wrote:
On Jun 25, 2:40 pm, "


wrote:
Hey thanks for the response!
I think you're right. She actually only seems to cry a lot when she's
left alone in the room. I think she's had people and other kittens
around her since her birth so being alone is very new to her. She only
eats when someone's in the room too. I wanted to show this video that
I took this morning of her eating. mind the poor quality (requires
QuickTime), but listen to the noise she makes when she eats! it's
adorable!


oops, forgot to include the link!http://www.t-mobilepictures.com/phot...ad02355cde.3gp...


The noise she is making is usually associated with an experience of
having to fight for her food. A *lot* of the kittens that we foster
make a similar noise to the one that your Kitty displays. Perhaps it
is possible that she is the runt of the litter and had to fight for
her food, or that someone has teased her in the past by taking her
food away from her??


Same as Bookie, I wouldn't be too concerned about her not wanting to
come out just yet. I have also had a Ragdoll adult who displayed the
same behavior when we first got him. It took a couple of weeks for him
to decide that we could be trusted. All he ever came out for was to
use the cat litter in the same room as him, & eat and drink too.


The very fact that she trust you enough to come out & eat in your
presence, is enough for the first couple of weeks. However, if it
continues for more than 3weeks or so, it might be worth taking her to
see a vet who might be able to give you advice regarding this matter.
Remember, she is only a small baby & this is the first time that she
has ever left home and is probably lonely and frightened.


I have a feeling that the best solution to this problem, might be to
get another kitten from a rescue centre perhaps if this is
possible? )


It would solve her loneliness and you would be giving a kitty/ cat the
one thing they don't have @ a shelter, which is a Future.
Unfortunately, so many are killed every where & all they require is
love, injections and feeding, & they will repay you a thousand
fold....
( And this advice is coming from an ex breeder of Birmans and Ragdolls
by the way!!)


She looks lovely by the way. I hope that she brings you love and Joy,
& It would be really nice if you kept in touch with us to let us know
how she is doing please?
Many thanx,
Sheelagh


Thanks for the kind response
Oh that's good to hear about the eating thing, i had a feeling it was
something like that.

Well we actually have another kitten (8 week old male, Beowulf), and
we introduced them yesterday. I honestly can't tell if they're play
fighting or not some of the time. They don't seem to hate each other,
but they don't exactly get close. Even knowing she has a mate she can
hang out with, she's still crying under the bed for attention. Though
Beowulf is a very feisty guy; he loves to wrestle. I can't say she
hates it because she starts the quarrels some of the time! No claws
and no hard biting as far as I can tell.
I've noticed in the past few days that she is just VERY used to having
something or someone nearby at all times. So now that I'm not talking
to her as i write this, she's crying away under the bed again. I
really hope that goes away over time.
She has been eating, wet and dry food. Using the bathroom regularly,
etc. So everything seems good in that respect.

again, thanks for the reply. I have a vet appointment for today to
have her checked out.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


poor little mite, she is probably very scared and unhappy, is there
really no chance you can get one of her litter mates too? beowulf may
be a bit too dominant for her and too boisterous.
what about using a feliway diffuser to calm the astmosphere for her,
you can get these easily from the vets, ask when you take her there.
i feel so sad for this poor little angel, she must miss her mum so bad

:-(
bookie

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Old June 26th 07, 06:13 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Default Scottish Fold kitten seems lonely or in heat!

On Jun 26, 8:27 am, sheelagh wrote:
On 26 Jun, 06:54, Charlie Wilkes
wrote:





On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:29:31 +0000, wrote:
On Jun 25, 6:55 pm, bookie wrote:
On 25 Jun, 19:43, "


wrote:
On Jun 25, 2:40 pm, "


wrote:
Hey thanks for the response!
I think you're right. She actually only seems to cry a lot when
she's left alone in the room. I think she's had people and other
kittens around her since her birth so being alone is very new to
her. She only eats when someone's in the room too. I wanted to show
this video that I took this morning of her eating. mind the poor
quality (requires QuickTime), but listen to the noise she makes
when she eats! it's adorable!


oops, forgot to include the
link!http://www.t-mobilepictures.com/photos/photo22/90/


f1/05ad02355cde.3gp...


are you sure she is a scottish fold? her ears seem to be fairly upright
and pointy and not particularly folded over at all


She's definitely a fold, but you can't breed two folded ears together
due to health defects; so some of them end up coming out pointed, others
straigfht. The pointed ones are...more affordable. Still has the same
adorable face, though.


Interesting. It's none of my business, but I'm curious why you bought
this particular type of cat rather than getting a free cat at a shelter.


Charlie- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Do shelters allow you to pick a kitten for free in the states
Charlie?


No, they don't.

The reason I ask you this, is because to adopt a cat/ kitty over here,
even from a rescue centre, they still charge around £50-60 ($100-120)!
Mind you, that is with injections and spayed too if old enough. To
meet these costs, I think they have to charge, & 99'999% of people
would gladly pay it, to have a ready taken care of kitty or cat...


It's about the same here. Costs vary somewhat, depending on what part
of the country, but that sounds about normal.

Having said that, there are lots of kittens in the classifieds going
for free, from private families who simply want to home their litters
of kittens because they never bothered getting their cat spayed. I'm,
sure this must be possible in the states too?


Depends on the part of the country. There are big regional variations
in how likely people are to spay and neuter their pets, and of course
because of different conditions we're generally less likey than you in
the UK to let our cats outside.

Lis

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Old June 26th 07, 07:17 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Default Scottish Fold kitten seems lonely or in heat!

On 26 Jun, 16:27, "cindys" wrote:
"sheelagh" wrote in message

oups.com...
snip

Do shelters allow you to pick a kitten for free in the states?


No. The charge is anywhere from $50 to $100 to cover the cost of exam,
vaccinations, and spay/neuter if the cat is more than a few months old,
which is really a bargain when you think of it. At my vet, all of this would
probably run well over $200 for a male and around $300 for a female.

The reason I ask you this, is because to adopt a cat/ kitty over here,


even from a rescue centre, they still charge around £50-60 ($100-120)!
Mind you, that is with injections and spayed too if old enough. To
meet these costs, I think they have to charge, & 99'999% of people
would gladly pay it, to have a ready taken care of kitty or cat...

Having said that, there are lots of kittens in the classifieds going


for free, from private families who simply want to home their litters
of kittens because they never bothered getting their cat spayed. I'm,
sure this must be possible in the states too?

Yes. "Free" kittens are never really free. In our vet's office, one of the
local shelters is advertising a special where if you adopt one of their
kitties ($90), you can adopt a second one "free." My husband and I chuckled
over that one (that particular day's bill was *only* $87 dollars for the
exam and the subcu fluids for Alex. The previous week's bill was also over
$80 for the "mini-blood panel" and the special food). The adoption fee is
the least of the expenses of a good cat slave.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.


titter, he he
You are right of course!
If I could get my cats to get all that work done for that price, I
would snatch their hands of too;o)

Cat -Slaving is a very expensive occupational hazard.
The purchase price is nothing other than a true bargain.. it's the
work that follows it that flattens you, isn't it?

When Ringo was shot, & Lilly got pyometra within a couple of months of
each other, my poor bank manger was having 40 fits & needed heart
tablets to cope with the stress of it all. I can't say that I enjoyed
it very much myself either. Or my poor cats come to that....

( I have just received the last payment from the boy's parent's,
yesterday- About time too!!...I'm just glad I don't have to even speak
to them anymore. I feel no sorrow for them @ all- after all, I had to
find the money to pay it before they even admitted liability. It makes
me sick to think about it!)

It is just nice to hear that Beowulf has got the same chance that
little Scottie fold has too. I forgot to ask what her name was, sorry
for that afairjudgement- what is her name?

I'm sure that with love, some feliway, time & attention, they will
grow to tolerate each other, & perhaps become even close given these
attributes as they grow up together. Some kitties just take a bit
longer to adapt than others do..
S;o)

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Old June 26th 07, 09:15 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Default Scottish Fold kitten seems lonely or in heat!

On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 05:27:15 -0700, sheelagh wrote:

On 26 Jun, 06:54, Charlie Wilkes
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:29:31 +0000, wrote:
On Jun 25, 6:55 pm, bookie wrote:


are you sure she is a scottish fold? her ears seem to be fairly
upright and pointy and not particularly folded over at all


She's definitely a fold, but you can't breed two folded ears together
due to health defects; so some of them end up coming out pointed,
others straigfht. The pointed ones are...more affordable. Still has
the same adorable face, though.


Interesting. It's none of my business, but I'm curious why you bought
this particular type of cat rather than getting a free cat at a
shelter.


Do shelters allow you to pick a kitten for free in the states Charlie?

The reason I ask you this, is because to adopt a cat/ kitty over here,
even from a rescue centre, they still charge around 50-60 ($100-120)!
Mind you, that is with injections and spayed too if old enough. To meet
these costs, I think they have to charge, & 99'999% of people would
gladly pay it, to have a ready taken care of kitty or cat...


The American system is no different. The cat itself is free, but the
person who adopts it must pay the cost of spay/neuter and vaccinations.


Having said that, there are lots of kittens in the classifieds going for
free, from private families who simply want to home their litters of
kittens because they never bothered getting their cat spayed. I'm, sure
this must be possible in the states too?

Of course. I scraped my cat off a road in the middle of the night, and
he turned out to be a very valuable animal.

Charlie
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Old June 26th 07, 10:06 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Default Scottish Fold kitten seems lonely or in heat!

On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:44:03 -0400, cybercat wrote:

Nice trolling, Charlie. You reeled me right in.


I'm not trolling. I'm simply curious about why someone would buy a
"Scottish Fold" kitten that lacks the very trait from which the breed
gets its name.

Charlie
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Old June 26th 07, 11:02 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Default Scottish Fold kitten seems lonely or in heat!


"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:44:03 -0400, cybercat wrote:

Nice trolling, Charlie. You reeled me right in.


I'm not trolling. I'm simply curious about why someone would buy a
"Scottish Fold" kitten that lacks the very trait from which the breed
gets its name.

-----
The Scottish Fold kitties have a reputation for being incredibly sweet and
loving.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.


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Old June 26th 07, 11:41 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Default Scottish Fold kitten seems lonely or in heat!


"cindys" wrote in message
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"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:44:03 -0400, cybercat wrote:

Nice trolling, Charlie. You reeled me right in.


I'm not trolling. I'm simply curious about why someone would buy a
"Scottish Fold" kitten that lacks the very trait from which the breed
gets its name.

-----
The Scottish Fold kitties have a reputation for being incredibly sweet and
loving.


So does my little rescue tabby.


 




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