Conan Is Home :)

"Dan M" wrote in message
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Well it was so many lies on the table.

And you still haven't told the truth.

But you will!
Oh yes you will!

Can you say "plonk"?


You ain't smart enough to plonk

it's just a word you learned on here.

Its just a word mate

BTW: Say hello to Dylan, I know he's right there.

"Dan M" wrote

So you are saying that the only people associated with the cat groups to
whom you gave your cell phone is myself, Tracy, Rhonda, and Charlie?
Because this is the only way that your assumption might make sense.

That is EXACTLY what I am saying!

Are you sure? Because this is a very serious allegation. Are you
saying that you have never given your cell number to anyone but
us? Think Dan. I have a feeling that this cannot be true. In fact,
I imagine that anyone with the time and inclination to Google
anecdotes will find proof that this is not true. I think you are
forgetting someone to whom you gave your cell number. If
you recall, I asked your permission before I gave it to anyone.
And I did not give it to anyone I did not tell you I was going to
give it to.


I see. All you had to do was tell us this. How on earth would you have
ever come to believe that any of us who wanted you to save Conan would
threaten you? This just makes no sense to me.

I'm not even going to answer this. I've answered it so many times before
that I've grown tired of repeating myself. Would anybody else try to give
it a try?

Well, yes. I will indeed let it drop. But I want you to put yourself in
our places. If you had care enough to put all this thought into helping
this cat, and had not done anything wrong at all, just to be betrayed as
you betrayed us with no explanation--you would at least want an
explanation. You handled this thing very badly--but I am left with the
impression that I was not wrong to trust you. I was wrong to trust you
to draw the right conclusions regarding any threatening calls you may
have received. It is ludicrous that you blamed us, the very people who
were relying upon your help. That said, if stupidity were illegal, the
already overcrowded prisons would indeed be in trouble.

Thank you, Dan, for finally coming clean. I am sorry you had to go
through this. In the future, use your head. You had no reason to believe
that any one of Conan/Dylan's well wishers would hurt you. And above
all, be honest. There is rarely a reason for a good person to lie. And I
do think you are a good person.

And please use your head as well. What could have possibly lead you to
believe that spewing the venom you've been dispensing so freely recently
could in any way be justified? You are either a hateful woman or an
immature one.


Or just an effective one. I got my explanation--which is something you owed
me, and all of the people who trusted you, and to whom you lied merely
out of cowardice. Whoever called you was no friend of mine, or Tracy's
or Rhonda's or Dan's. And they had the exact effect on you that they
wanted to. They frightened you. It certainly takes a sick person to
do that. The mistake you made was deciding it was one of us. THINK
about it. It makes no sense.

"Jean B." wrote in message
...
Dan M wrote:

Why not take this opportunity to explain what happened between
the time you promised us you would pick him up, then lied to
us about picking him up? I had always seen you as an upright
guy. Do you actually believe that I would have made threatening
calls to you when you were doing me a favor for which I had
never stopped expressing my deep gratitude?


And why would I do that? So you can warp my words again?

If you will reread my previous posts you'll see that I never claimed you
made threatening calls. I said that I had received threatening calls,
and
I never identified who they were from. In fact, I don't know who they
were from, and I frankly don't want to know. All I need to know is that
it was a sick and twisted individual.


Honestly, Dan, I just want to understand. I trusted you, as did Tracy,
Rhonda, and Charlie. And I have given you no reason to suggest that I do
not care about cats, particularly about Conan/Dylan in particular. I
have merely been trying to get you to explain your actions. I think
everyone, including me, actually wants you to have had good reasons to
betray us, or to think that you had. Because not one of us did a thing
but spend time and effort trying to save that cat. Just tell the
truth--people just want to understand.


No, I don't think they do. I think they *want* to get enraged and they
*want* to act like flaming assholes. Many of the people who have posting
on this topic must be mentally deranged to post the crap they do. You
are
a prime example - replying to somebody's posts and adding your comments
as
if they were sent by the original poster? That's underhanded, deceitful,
and inexcusable.

The fact of the matter is that I will never apologize for anything I
have
to do to insure the safety of myself, my family, or my animals. If I
have
to tell a minor untruth to get some twisted psycho off my ass and away
from my loved ones, then you better believe that's exactly what I'm
going
to do. When someone makes physical threats against me, I take it
seriously. Even when it's done over Usenet or by some twisted coward who
hides behind anonymous phone calls.

Anyway, that being said, and making the (perhaps erroneous) assumption
that at last one reader of this groups is really interested in what has
been happening with Conan/Dylan (Dylan is really a much better name -
he's
definitely not a "Conan"), here it is: I left for the shelter to get the
cat. While on the freeway I got a call from some twisted psycho sack of
s**t who said offered up some threats if I followed through on picking
up
the cat. The only people who knew when I was going to be on the road to
the shelter were a small group I had been exchanging e-mail with.
Whether
the call came from someone in that list or just someone acquainted with
someone on that list is impossible to determine. Either way, it meant
that
I wasn't going to have anything to do with anyone in that e-mail group.

I knew of other people interested in finding Conan a good home, so I
picked him up and worked with them to find the cat a good home. Not a
"good enough" home, but a good home. He had to spend about a week in a
boarding kennel, the rest of the time he was at my house with my cats.
During the time he was in the kennel I made about every-other-day trips
out to visit and play with him, and the staff allowed him out of his
enclosure every day. He was not in a steel cage, he was in a
nicely-appointed enclosure with lots of room and a comfortable place to
sleep. During that time we looked into several "good enough" homes, but
held out for something really appropriate. We have now found that.

There, now, is the complete story of Conan/Dylan. If you really and
truly
care about cats and if your only concern through this whole episode was
only Conan's well-being, then let the issue drop. Conan was always well
cared for, he did not have to endure long days in stell cages, and he is
in a nice, comfortable house. That is, I believe, the goal that
everybody
had been spouting. Since that goal has been realized, you no longer have
any reason to spew your venom, crosspost like an idiot, and make
harrassing posts.

Dan

Finally. The truth. That is what we wanted. You could have
saved many people lots of grief if you had spoken up sooner.

--
Jean B.

Hi Jean B.

No, this is not the truth.

Dylan is with Dan.

This is why all the lies.

Who would lie about a kennel.
Who would like about a decent home.
No one would, but Dan sho layed out the lies.

It's cause he's got the cat.

"Philip" wrote in message
k.net...

"Mary" wrote in message
...

"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 06:24:32 GMT, Kitkat
wrote:

rich wrote:
Charlie Wilkes wrote:

If you really cared about cats, you'd save your pennies for the
ones
nobody else is interested in. You just want to be the center of
attention.


In light of that just what are YOU doing to help in this area? At
least
through Monica's and others help one cat has a true home. Just what
have
you done other that shoot your mouth off?


Well, I believe he detailed his rescue of a cat who was splattered
across the pavement. Tweaker is her name. He nursed her back to
health.

Pam,
who thinks that counts for a lot

Thank you.

Tweaker is a boy, BTW.

See, it isn't just me! He kind of looks like a girl in the photos I
have seen. Isn't he kind of small for a boy?


I fell short of being the perfect cat lover when I rescued Tweaker
because I did not immediately take him to the 24 hour emergency vet.
I decided to see whether he would die or get better. When it became
clear that recovery was his fortune, only then did he get vetted.

My heart is not pure in terms of my attitude toward the welfare of
cats. A dark streak of practicality pollutes it. I am morally
defective by the standards of this group.

Nevertheless, Cat Karma smiled upon me broadly when I got Tweaker. He
is just the cat for me. He is predisposed to be friendly to all
people and dogs. He is tidy and low-key. He seems eager for new
experiences and he's having quite a few.


Join the morally defective club, Charlie. I have been demonized for
doing nothing but trying to help Conan.


Mary, you have been demonized for doing MUCH MORE ... FAR beyond the call
of
necessity for Conan's sake.




Where was necessity when Conan needed it Philip!

It was necessary for you to return him?

"Snittens" wrote in message
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"cmtowle" wrote in message
news:bTZCe.1979235$Xk.1047181@pd7tw3no...
As promised, a final update to let everyone who is interested know that
Conan (now "Dylan" which we thought a more gentle name) has indeed been
homed with wonderful cat-loving humans and a feline friend. He is a
loving
and lovable kitty lapping up all of the attention and affection he is
getting.

To those who had the courage to post and/or e-mail their continued
support
and who offered to help in so many ways, thank you. You continued to
trust
that we were doing everything right to ensure a great life for this cat.
That mattered to us.

snip

Thank you for all your hard work in finding this kitty a great home!

-Kelly



Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear.

I have read every single post Dan made since this happened.
Every word.

He's lying, he's still lying.

But alas we know the truth.

Dan has got the cat.
Dan wanted him.

Dan M wrote:

There, now, is the complete story of Conan/Dylan. If you really and truly
care about cats and if your only concern through this whole episode was
only Conan's well-being, then let the issue drop. Conan was always well
cared for, he did not have to endure long days in stell cages, and he is
in a nice, comfortable house. That is, I believe, the goal that everybody
had been spouting. Since that goal has been realized, you no longer have
any reason to spew your venom, crosspost like an idiot, and make
harrassing posts.

That's very interesting. I'm glad you posted this because I, for one,
really wondered what happened that day. You always seemed like a nice
guy on rpca and it didn't make sense. I'm glad Dylan is in a good home
and that he spent part of his transition time at your house rather than
caged.

I am sure, however, that it was no one in Mary's "group" who threatened
you. It was probably the same person who posted that they had called
the shelter on that Monday. It was someone posting through Cat KB, I
think. It was unfortunate that there were so many
misunderstandings/hurt feelings along the way.

I am sure everyone is happy that Conan is safe and in his own home now.
You, no doubt, made the decision that you felt was necessary but it is
understandable that others did not feel the same way and had thought
you were all working together. Mary has said that all she wanted was
an explanation and you have provided it so that is good of you and,
hopefully, the Conan/Dylan threads can come to an end soon.

Candace

"Dan M" wrote in message
news Mary wrote: So you are saying that the only people associated with the
cat groups to
whom you gave your cell phone is myself, Tracy, Rhonda, and Charlie?
...
Dan replied:

That is EXACTLY what I am saying!

Dan,

I hope you saved that threatening message on your cell phone.

I imagine someone never thought of that when he or she made that call.

Maybe that someone is wondering if you have it or not.

I hope this whole thing ends without additional nastiness, but if it
continues, that recording could be useful.

And, thank you for letting us all know what happened and that Dylan is doing
fine.

Annie

"Annie Wxill" wrote in message
...

"Dan M" wrote in message
news Mary wrote: So you are saying that the only people associated with the
cat groups to
whom you gave your cell phone is myself, Tracy, Rhonda, and Charlie?
...
Dan replied:

That is EXACTLY what I am saying!

Dan,

I hope you saved that threatening message on your cell phone.

I imagine someone never thought of that when he or she made that call.

Maybe that someone is wondering if you have it or not.

I hope this whole thing ends without additional nastiness, but if it
continues, that recording could be useful.

And, thank you for letting us all know what happened and that Dylan is
doing
fine.


Dan says it was a male. So he has always known it was not me.

On 2005-07-19 11:28:53 -0700, Dan M said:

Anyway, that being said, and making the (perhaps erroneous) assumption
that at last one reader of this groups is really interested in what has
been happening with Conan/Dylan (Dylan is really a much better name - he's
definitely not a "Conan"), here it is: I left for the shelter to get the
cat. While on the freeway I got a call from some twisted psycho sack of
s**t who said offered up some threats if I followed through on picking up
the cat. The only people who knew when I was going to be on the road to
the shelter were a small group I had been exchanging e-mail with. Whether
the call came from someone in that list or just someone acquainted with
someone on that list is impossible to determine. Either way, it meant that
I wasn't going to have anything to do with anyone in that e-mail group.

I knew of other people interested in finding Conan a good home, so I
picked him up and worked with them to find the cat a good home. Not a
"good enough" home, but a good home. He had to spend about a week in a
boarding kennel, the rest of the time he was at my house with my cats.
During the time he was in the kennel I made about every-other-day trips
out to visit and play with him, and the staff allowed him out of his
enclosure every day. He was not in a steel cage, he was in a
nicely-appointed enclosure with lots of room and a comfortable place to
sleep. During that time we looked into several "good enough" homes, but
held out for something really appropriate. We have now found that.

There, now, is the complete story of Conan/Dylan. If you really and truly
care about cats and if your only concern through this whole episode was
only Conan's well-being, then let the issue drop. Conan was always well
cared for, he did not have to endure long days in stell cages, and he is
in a nice, comfortable house. That is, I believe, the goal that everybody
had been spouting. Since that goal has been realized, you no longer have
any reason to spew your venom, crosspost like an idiot, and make
harrassing posts.

Thank you, Dan.

I did, actually, want to know what happened with Dylan and appreciate
the summary of why you changed your mind at the last minute. Makes
perfect sense to me, actually.

Take care,
b

"whitershadeofpale" wrote in message
...

"Philip" wrote in message
k.net...

"Mary" wrote in message
...

"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:01:26 GMT, "Philip"
wrote:


"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 02:49:43 GMT, "cmtowle"
wrote:

The relentless net sleuthing, the negative spins, the threats, and
the
outrageous theories you came up with would be laughable if a cat's
future
had not been at stake.

Who are you trying to kid with this pious horse****? Cats get
killed
and plowed into landfills every day, by the thousands. What makes
any
one of them more important than all the rest?

If you really cared about cats, you'd save your pennies for the
ones
nobody else is interested in. You just want to be the center of
attention.

Charlie

Charlie. Your moments of sophistry, such as the one above, are
evolving
from an occasional fault to a regular feature.

It ain't my sophistry, brother. I borrowed it from the moralizing
baboons with whom you have encamped yourself. Monica is all worked up
about how a cat's future is at stake. I'm trying to put that concern
into some kind of realistic context.


Philip is not encamped with Monica. She has some very nasty things
to say about him in email. She was as concerned as all of us were
about Philip's abandonment of Conan/Dylan. But she offered nothing
until Charlie stepped up to the plate and offered to adopt him.


Prove it Mary.



She don't owe you gotdamn thang!
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU

I hope I hope I hope

Mary sues your tail for antagonizing her during this wholet thing.,


I have BCC'd copies of the pertainent emails Mary made that included my
screen name.

You can bring suit for any reason in this country. But bringing suit does
in no way guarantee a judgement favorable to the one bringing the suit.