is it the heat?

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:27:32 -0400, "Snittens" ,
clicked their heels and said:


I'm sorry that you found Janet's response to be out of line. It was direct,
but she meant it that way (I'm assuming) to get you to realize how serious
diarrhea, vomiting, and dehydration can be.


yup - it can kil a cat really quickly. It;s very serious and the OP
doesn't want to hear that, she wants validation that it's "the heat".
I hope the cat makes it......

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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 19:51:33 GMT, Charlie Wilkes
, clicked their heels and said:


It's not easy to live joyful when you have to share a planet with
Janet Boss, is it? I have had the same experience.


Oh Charlie - you haven't experienced me in the least.

Janet is a dog-trainer whose philosophy is to intimidate dogs who
misbehave. She has validated a lot of toxic thinking in the dog group
with unhappy results for dogs and their owners.

LOL. If you only knew.

She lives in Baltimore and is very much like some of the characters in
early John Waters movies. Think Edith Massey as Cuddles in "Pink
Flamingos," only a lot meaner.

Now - THAT is amusing. Love John Waters of course......

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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 21:51:37 +0100, "Alison"
, clicked their heels and said:



I don't agree with Janet's training methods either but in this case
she is right , the cat really should see a vet.
Alison

and actually Alison, I'm betting we agree more than you think!

But yes, the cat needs to see the vet asap.

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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:49:06 -0400, Janet B
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 19:51:33 GMT, Charlie Wilkes
, clicked their heels and said:


It's not easy to live joyful when you have to share a planet with
Janet Boss, is it? I have had the same experience.


Oh Charlie - you haven't experienced me in the least.

Janet is a dog-trainer whose philosophy is to intimidate dogs who
misbehave. She has validated a lot of toxic thinking in the dog group
with unhappy results for dogs and their owners.

LOL. If you only knew.

I do know. I've made a study of your advice.

You have recommended that people deal with furniture guarding by
leashing the dog and yanking it onto the floor when it growls. That
is what published experts consider to be a BAD approach that will
re-enforce the undesirable behavior. We have had that discussion,
right?

And what about Teena, the snappish ESS? The woman who owned Teena has
trouble controlling her temper, and she lost her temper with the dog.
You egged her on, recommending daily repetitions of the trigger
stimulus with no modification in handling technique. It was only a
few more weeks before the dog was euthenized.

All of this is archived. But maybe Jerry finally got through to you
and now you are a kinder and gentler Janet.

Charlie

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 23:30:47 GMT, Charlie Wilkes
, clicked their heels and said:

We have had that discussion,
right?

I don 't think you and I have had a "discussion". We may have posted
in the same thread, but that ain' the same.

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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 19:48:57 -0400, Janet B
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 23:30:47 GMT, Charlie Wilkes
, clicked their heels and said:

We have had that discussion,
right?

I don 't think you and I have had a "discussion". We may have posted
in the same thread, but that ain' the same.

Let me put it this way, Janet: we have made our views known to one
another. But this is not the dog group. I see you are putting a
great deal of effort into your cat's health issues, giving her prozac
and what have you so she won't **** you out of house and home. I'm
not surprised that a cat living with you needs prozac, but I commend
your diligence even so.

Charlie

As for your initial question...
It could be something as simple as worms.
Or something much more serious.

Get her to the vet Sooner than later.

"Janet B" wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 21:51:37 +0100, "Alison"
, clicked their heels and said:



I don't agree with Janet's training methods either but in this
case
she is right , the cat really should see a vet.
Alison

and actually Alison, I'm betting we agree more than you think!

Maybe, but pigs will fly before I ever use a choke collar
Alison

"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message
...
Let me put it this way, Janet: we have made our views known to one
another. But this is not the dog group. I see you are putting a
great deal of effort into your cat's health issues, giving her
prozac
and what have you so she won't **** you out of house and home. I'm
not surprised that a cat living with you needs prozac, but I commend
your diligence even so.

Charlie

Charlie,
It's more than likely that Carey's behaviour problems have a
physical
cause that the vets haven't properly diagnosed yet. Janet must have
spent
thousands of dollars on him and has tremendous patience putting up
with
all the peeing etc. so I commend her diligence too.
Alison

On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:02:38 +0100, "Alison"
, clicked their heels and said:


Charlie,
It's more than likely that Carey's behaviour problems have a
physical
cause that the vets haven't properly diagnosed yet. Janet must have
spent
thousands of dollars on him and has tremendous patience putting up
with
all the peeing etc. so I commend her diligence too.
Alison


Thanks Alison, it's been rough. She'll be 12 tomorrow. I think she's
already been getting her birthday presents! I started back on the
Prozac for her on Tuesday, and I know i will take a bit to kick in.
We had a rough late afternoon yesterday. Big t-storm, so Lucy was
pacing and not happy. Franklin barked at something, then grabbed a
squeaky toy and Carey lost it on him and Lucy, then Skip. I tossed
her in a room for a bit to cool down and tried letting her out only
to have the same reaction. We had that 3 times in 45 minutes, so she
got to stay in there quite a bit longer later on. She was fine the
rest of the evening, but sucked on Franklin at bedtime again, he left
and she took over his new dog bed! Maybe we all treat her a little
too nicely - nobody tells her off (except I tell her "do not hiss at
ME" when I'm pulling her off poor Skipjack).

Yes, thousands of dollars at this point. Lot's of frustration. But
we love her anyway. And my MIL arrives Saturday, for a week. She
adores her and vice versa, so hopefully we'll have some quiet and no
peeing (which has continued to be ok!).

Having a party on Saturday, and although the guests will mostly be
outside (pool), Carey and Skipjack will be closed in a bedroom for the
duration, just to keep things calm and easy for everyone. Why add
stress?

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