Caliccivirus

wrote:
I just got home from the grocery and noticed that Buddy was chewing on
a plastic bag, before I could put everything away. I have seen him do
this before, but didn't think much of it. Now I am wondering if this
might be the cause of the ulcerations on his lips?

Very possibly. It still sounds like EGC to me - I'd get to a different
vet asap.

good luck,
-L.

wrote:
So, do these just go away on their own? I only used peroxide once a
day for about 8 days- he started running from me - not wanting it
anymore.

Overuse of peroxide kills the healthy tissue that is growing. peroxide
should really only be used to flush a wound initially.

You mentioned prednisone - I hate to start that on a cat that
is only 4. Isn't that tough on the kidneys, etc.?

Following up my own posts - I had a brain fart...

Prolonged and/or repeated use of corticosteriods (like depo medrol) can
cause kidney and liver damage but you have to weigh the pros and cons
of its usage. My cat first presented with EGC at 10 weeks old and is
now 15, almost 16 years old, having had shots of depo infrequently
throughout her life to control her EGC. Infrequent use to control a
disease like EGC is safe for most cats. It is the only treatment I
have found that has worked.

You also need to see what may be contributing to the outbreaks. For my
cat, fleas, fish-based cat foods (salmon) and plastic bowls are the
problem, but if I rinse the bowls in bleach water and let them dry 48
hours to liberate the bleach, they are not a problem.

-L.

-L. wrote:

You also need to see what may be contributing to the outbreaks. For my
cat, fleas, fish-based cat foods (salmon) and plastic bowls are the
problem, but if I rinse the bowls in bleach water and let them dry 48
hours to liberate the bleach, they are not a problem.

-L.

Sorry folks...wuuuh wuuuh

I don't feel so good

I have liberated too much bleach?

wuuuh wwwwuuuuh

bruuuuuick
rrrroooooooommee

Hmmm. He doesn't eat any fishy food, his dishes are ceramic and put in
the dishwasher daily, and he hasn't had fleas since I have had him -
about a year. I have to wonder if this periodic chewing plastic bags
might be setting it off. I will be more diligent about this and see
what happens. I have never had a cat interested in chewing plastic
bags! But he is definitely drawn to them.

wrote:
Hmmm. He doesn't eat any fishy food, his dishes are ceramic and put in
the dishwasher daily, and he hasn't had fleas since I have had him -
about a year. I have to wonder if this periodic chewing plastic bags
might be setting it off. I will be more diligent about this and see
what happens. I have never had a cat interested in chewing plastic
bags! But he is definitely drawn to them.

Ignore some of these posts supposedly written by me - I am being
impersonated.

The plastic bags very definitely could be causing the reaction, but it
can be from most anything. Othe suspects are household cleaners,
plants and certain other food items (grains).
-L.

Barry wrote:
Sorry folks...wuuuh wuuuh

I don't feel so good

I have liberated too much bleach?

wuuuh wwwwuuuuh

bruuuuuick
rrrroooooooommee

Barry, you're being a dick.
-L.

-L. wrote:

Barry, you're being a dick.
-L.


Bar. Hon! Nice try! don't you have anything better to do?

A nym shifting troll.

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-L. wrote:

You also need to see what may be contributing to the outbreaks. For my
cat, fleas, fish-based cat foods (salmon) and plastic bowls are the
problem, but if I rinse the bowls in bleach water and let them dry 48
hours to liberate the bleach, they are not a problem.

-L.

Sorry folks...wuuuh wuuuh

I don't feel so good

I have liberated too much bleach?

wuuuh wwwwuuuuh

bruuuuuick
rrrroooooooommee

John Doe wrote:
A nym shifting troll.

See also:
"-L." bigbadbarry adelphia.net
"a christmas tree"...
"abRokeNegRo"...
"bag-o-switches"...
"black-ip"
"chickenwing"...
"coffeedog"...
"johndoeisadick"...
"Levon"...
"Mr Tibbs"...
"Prozack"...
"wannabe"...
"watermelon"...
"whitershadeofpale"...

"-L." bigbadbarry adelphia.net wrote:


hahahaha

you said johndoeisadick!!!!

aaaahhhh ha

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Phil
They look slightly like the last two of three. But his are not
swollen.

EGC/Rodent ulcers aren't always swollen- they look something like a slightly
raised scab or harden burst blister.

I can't find a picture of a calicivirus ulcer on the lip- but I have a
picture of a cat with one on the foreleg. Let me know if it looks like
this:

http://www.maxshouse.com/Dermatology...virusulcer.jpg


He has had this on the corner of his mouth since Christmas.
It has decreased in size- about half, but isn't gone. It no longer has
the yellow crust. The vet only gave him an anti-inflamatory shot and
told me to clean it with peroxide for 10 days. And that 10 days is
over.

I think you should get a second opinion before using hydrogen peroxide
again- it will prevent the ulcer from healing if you keep using it.


Phil