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Old June 6th 09, 10:28 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
M[_2_]
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you aren't very old are you? You are not at the age where you
take meds regularly are you? The benefits of my meds outweigh
the listed side effects. Besides those side effects affect
different people differently and most times not at all. So if
I do notice any of those side effects I will call my Dr and we
will figure something else out. Better than the "side effects"
I'd have without the meds.

"calvin" wrote in message
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On Jun 6, 2:14 pm, "cyberpurrs" wrote:
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You've been told by experts that this is the right thing to
do for your cat,
in your cat's situation. Now what the **** do you want from
us?


I want you and Matthew to go away. I want the others to
explain why it is wise to give a cat never-ending medication
that may cause these side effects:

liver damage
nervous system damage
loss of appetite
vomiting
anemia


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Old June 6th 09, 10:41 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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On Jun 6, 4:17*pm, "Matthew" wrote:
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You may not like what me or cyber has to say *but welcome to Real life. *If
I was to come there I would drag you down to the vets office and make him
write it all out for you. Show the vet all of the info provide by our
resident helpers. *Ask him if this was true. *If you still had issues.. Than
drag you to another vet for a second physical opinion; third plus opinion
and make them write it down for you again. *If there was a difference of
agreement I would find a third vet. *We do it when we have problems. *Is
this so hard *or do I need crayons and a etch-a-sketch


What part of 'never-ending medication' don't you understand?
I can observe loss of appetite and vomiting; but I can't observe
liver damage, nervous system damage, or anemia; so those
could be advancing without anyone's knowledge, month after
month. I wouldn't know it and the vet wouldn't know it. Then
when the cat became obviously sick the vet could say it's the
leukemia, even if it really is the side effects. How would he
know?

I will look for a second opinion about the risks of using
interferon endlessly. That's essentially what I'm trying
to do here. I gave in and decided to do the interferon
for two on/off cycles, one of which has been done.
Since you know so much, why don't you tell me what
good interferon is supposed to do, since the disease
is incurable. Also, since the cat seems to me to have
good quality of life, I asked the vet if there is any chance
that the test gave a false positive result. He said no, with
certainty. Is that certainty reasonable? I don't know.
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Old June 6th 09, 11:03 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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"calvin" wrote in message
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Please see this link:

http://www.petplace.com/drug-library...n-a/page1.aspx

Here it lists liver damage and nervous system damage, in addition
to other side effects mentioned in the previous thread, such as
loss of appetite and throwing up, as possible side effects.



For the last time: Those side effects were extrapolated from *HUMAN* -
*HUMAN* - *HUMAN* studies that involved much higher doses (3 million IU)
administered IM, SC, or IP.. The feline dose is only *30* IU *orally*- . I
told you this a few times in your first thread.

Did you read and understand the excerpts I posted from the two top
veterinary drug handbooks?

Plumb's Veterinary Drug Handbook. Plumb's is the #1 veterinary drug
handbook.

"Adverse Effects/Warnings - When used orally in cats, adverse effects have
apparently not yet been noted. "

Is there any part of that you don't understand?


Here are the adverse effects that have been reported in *HUMANS*:

"When used systemically in humans, adverse
effects have included anemia, leukope*nias, thrombocytopenia,
hepatotoxicity, neurotoxicity, changes in taste sensation, anorexia,
nau*sea, vomiting, diarrhea, dizziness, "flu-like" syndrome, transient
hypotension, skin rashes and dry mouth. Except for the "flu-like "syndrome
most adverse effects are dose related and may vary depending on the
condition treated."

Now, do you understand that the adverse effects you read were extrapolated
from studies in HUMANS and apply to HUMANS, NOT CATS? I don't know how much
clearer I can make this.

If you still don't get it, take your cat to your vet and ask him to find a
good home for your cat. When your vet asks you why you're giving up your
cat, tell him its because you're too obtuse to be entrusted with a cat.



My vet saw the cat again two days ago. At that time I told him
about having waited a week to start the interferon, and about my
concern about side effects. He told me that he had never seen
side effects from interferon.

We are now in the week off from interferon, after the first week on
it.
Next Monday, the day before interferon is to start again, the cat is
to be neutered. I will bring him home the next day, when the
interferon
is to start again. The vet seems to think that the interferon may
help
with any weaknesses that the cat, having leukemia, might have
aggrivated by the neutering. He recommended timing the neutering
so that it would be followed by a week back on interferon.

Does any of this make sense to those of you who are serious?



Makes perfect sense. Surgery stresses the immune system. Interferon
strengthens the immune system.



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Old June 7th 09, 12:03 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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On Jun 6, 6:03*pm, "Phil P." wrote:
... you're too obtuse to be entrusted with a cat.


I have nine cats, and have been taking cats to this vet
for about a decade. This is the first time he has
prescribed a NEVER ENDING medication. It bothers
me because I care about cats. Insult me all you like.

There's nothing at the link I gave that says the possible
animal side effects were extrapolated from human
side effects. You want me to just take your word for
that, and if I don't, then you insult me again. Have a
nice day.
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Old June 7th 09, 12:42 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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"calvin" wrote in message
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On Jun 6, 6:03 pm, "Phil P." wrote:
... you're too obtuse to be entrusted with a cat.


I have nine cats, and have been taking cats to this vet
for about a decade. This is the first time he has
prescribed a NEVER ENDING medication. It bothers
me because I care about cats. Insult me all you like.

There's nothing at the link I gave that says the possible
animal side effects were extrapolated from human
side effects. You want me to just take your word for
that, and if I don't, then you insult me again. Have a
nice day.


So your point it, you are afraid of potential side effects. Anything else?
Jesus.


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Old June 7th 09, 12:44 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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"calvin" wrote in message
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On Jun 6, 2:14 pm, "cyberpurrs" wrote:
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You've been told by experts that this is the right thing to do for your
cat,
in your cat's situation. Now what the **** do you want from us?


I want you and Matthew to go away.


Tough ****. This is Usenet.

I want the others to
explain why it is wise to give a cat never-ending medication
that may cause these side effects:


liver damage
nervous system damage
loss of appetite
vomiting
anemia


Right. And you are asking any asshole with a computer who subscribes to this
group, when you already have the opinion of your VET and Phil, who has saved
many of our animal's with his advice and experience, for WHAT REASON?

Phil is right. You're stupid.


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Old June 7th 09, 12:45 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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"Matthew" wrote
So again I understand asking questions. It is a scary thing to have a
person, friend, family member or pet go through long term problems. But
THEY HAVE EXPLAINED BUT YOU ARE NOT LISTENING. STAY THE "F" off the
internet blogs and if you have questions that your vet is not explaining
to you or that you can't get from the forum. CALL ANOTHER VET FOR A
SECOND OPINION.


Asshole has been told all this. I guess he does not want to PAY a vet for a
second opinion, so he's here repeating himself.


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Old June 7th 09, 05:13 AM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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"calvin"


I have a question? Are you what they consider mentally handicapped or in
better terms I think the polite way is that person is slow.


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Old June 7th 09, 02:46 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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On Jun 7, 12:13*am, "Matthew"
wrote:
"calvin"
I have a question? *Are you what they consider mentally handicapped or in
better terms I think the polite way is that person is slow.


short term medication - side effects may be tolerable

long term medication - side effects may build up, month
after month, year after year

When you address that concern, I may begin to have
respect for your advice.
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Old June 7th 09, 03:04 PM posted to rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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"calvin" wrote in message
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On Jun 6, 6:03 pm, "Phil P." wrote:
... you're too obtuse to be entrusted with a cat.


I have nine cats, and have been taking cats to this vet
for about a decade. This is the first time he has
prescribed a NEVER ENDING medication.


That's probably because this is the first time you've had a cat with a NEVER
ENDING DISEASE.


It bothers
me because I care about cats.


I understand that. That's why I've spent so much time trying to get through
your thick skull. Caring is good- but you're being obtuse to the point of
idiotic.


Insult me all you like.


Think of an insult as a slap to snap you out of a delusion.


There's nothing at the link I gave that says the possible

animal side effects were extrapolated from human
side effects.


The link you posted didn't give *any* references to the source of their
information. The *two* highly credible ****VETERINARY**** sources that I
gave you *both* said the adverse effects that were mentioned on the site you
provided were *only* reported in *humans* - not in cats. *Both* of the
highly credible ****VETERINARY**** sources I provided clearly stated *no*
adverse effects were reported in cats when given orally. Both of the sources
I gave you are used in every veterinary college in the United States if not
the entire world.



You want me to just take your word for
that,


Its not simply my word. Did you understand the references I cited or do you
have a reading comprehension problem, also?


and if I don't, then you insult me again.



I'm sorry to say I think your stupidity will kill your cat long before FeLV.




 




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