Stress Induced Illness?? Long

"Steve Touchstone" wrote in message
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I grew up a d*g person, and only have the gang here because they
forced their way in and took up residence. That said, I firmly believe
d*gs are happiest when they've been given some basic training. They're
pack animals by instinct, and if they're not trained they don't know
how to act because there's no clear cut pack leader. When this happens
you have unhappy and confused d*gs. Especially bad in your MIL's case,
since she has a couple good sized d*gs - even the smaller one isn't
exactly small.

Yeah, I've had cats and d*gs all my life, and we always made sure all the
d*gs clearly knew who their pack leader was and they all seemed much happier
than my MIL's d*gs (who fight each other constantly - which is scary to me -
and bark constantly, are are clearly nervous beasts).

Hugs,

CatNipped

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"Sherry " wrote in message
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That's true, Steve. They look to you to be the pack leader, and they feel
secure when you set boundaries for them. It's really not kind to let your
dogs
run amuck. I don't think they like it any more than the people around
them.

Sherry

I think you're right. As I was telling Steve, MIL's d*gs are always
fighting each other, growling, barking, etc. - very nerve wracking!

Hugs,

CatNipped

"Sherry " wrote in message
...

That's true, Steve. They look to you to be the pack leader, and they feel
secure when you set boundaries for them. It's really not kind to let your
dogs
run amuck. I don't think they like it any more than the people around
them.

Sherry

I think you're right. As I was telling Steve, MIL's d*gs are always
fighting each other, growling, barking, etc. - very nerve wracking!

Hugs,

CatNipped

"Sherry " wrote in message
...

That's true, Steve. They look to you to be the pack leader, and they feel
secure when you set boundaries for them. It's really not kind to let your
dogs
run amuck. I don't think they like it any more than the people around
them.

Sherry

I think you're right. As I was telling Steve, MIL's d*gs are always
fighting each other, growling, barking, etc. - very nerve wracking!

Hugs,

CatNipped

"Melissa Houle" wrote in message
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Indeed! Two days into the visit, and either I'd have sent her to a hotel,
or
moved into one, myself. I agree by the way. I think the cats are very
stressed, and a visit to TED would only stress them out, worse. Never
forget that they could smell the D*gs leaving THEIR smell all over your
cat's home. They may have thought the arrangement was permanent, and
they'd
never be free, again.

You're right - but I don't think there is a hotel in the US who would take
her with 3 d*gs and a cat, so it would have to be me going to the hotel and
then I'd be worrying about what she and her animals were doing to my house
and my animals without me there.

"Well, Darling, I cleaned and disinfected the house. And you know? I'm
really tired of cooking and I want to go out for an elegant dinner at
___________________(Name of your favorite restaurant)." Better yet, get
him
to take you for a relaxing spa weekend. =o)

*Very* good idea, thanks!!

Especially not about that last bit! I think you should give DH an addendum
stating that if your rules about the dogs are not followed, you will be
LEAVING for the duration, and he can find you at the nicest motel in town.
And you would like to come home to a clean household.

I think what I will offer to do would be put her up, but kennel her d*gs
with our vet, having DH gently explain that while we would gladly give her
shelter from a hurricane, our beloved cats were stressed to the point of
illness by the d*gs and we can't put them through that (especially our
14-year-old) again.

DO NOT EAT ANY MEALS AT HER HOME! Ech!! Gross! Sometimes, my crew will
get
some nice table scraps as a treat, but they get them AFTER I finish
eating,
and in their own bowls. Pan has learned to sit and watch quietly, and
Cesca
and Nina are learning this art. I may spoil my four footed darlings, but
only within limits!

No, I don't even like to go into her house when we go down to New Orleans -
it smells and it's hard to navigate through all the mess. I usually stay
with my daughter and visit MIL briefly and then leave DH to visit with my
grandbabies.

They'd be a shock to anyone, believe me. I would not have put up with all
of
that, I must admit. I love dogs, and I would be delighted to be hostess
to
well-behaved ones like your SIL's dogs. Animals that know how to behave
properly are a pleasure to be around. If I had a dog of my own, I'd make
sure it was capable of being a good, polite dog guest before I made anyone
else accept it in their home. And I'd make sure the dog got walks and pee
breaks during the visit to avoid the possibility of accidents. My sister's
late Corgi, Maddy, was another well trained dog. There is no WAY I'd let
spoiled, undisciplined dogs stay long in my house, especially when they
made
messes indoors and their "Parent" Made no move to either discipline the
dog,
or clean up the mess.

Melissa.

See, that's what I can't understand. Even though I spoil my babies
terribly, I would be *so* embarrassed if they messed in someone's home - and
I would be mortified if they attacked someone else's beloved pet!!!

Hugs,

CatNipped

"Melissa Houle" wrote in message
...

Indeed! Two days into the visit, and either I'd have sent her to a hotel,
or
moved into one, myself. I agree by the way. I think the cats are very
stressed, and a visit to TED would only stress them out, worse. Never
forget that they could smell the D*gs leaving THEIR smell all over your
cat's home. They may have thought the arrangement was permanent, and
they'd
never be free, again.

You're right - but I don't think there is a hotel in the US who would take
her with 3 d*gs and a cat, so it would have to be me going to the hotel and
then I'd be worrying about what she and her animals were doing to my house
and my animals without me there.

"Well, Darling, I cleaned and disinfected the house. And you know? I'm
really tired of cooking and I want to go out for an elegant dinner at
___________________(Name of your favorite restaurant)." Better yet, get
him
to take you for a relaxing spa weekend. =o)

*Very* good idea, thanks!!

Especially not about that last bit! I think you should give DH an addendum
stating that if your rules about the dogs are not followed, you will be
LEAVING for the duration, and he can find you at the nicest motel in town.
And you would like to come home to a clean household.

I think what I will offer to do would be put her up, but kennel her d*gs
with our vet, having DH gently explain that while we would gladly give her
shelter from a hurricane, our beloved cats were stressed to the point of
illness by the d*gs and we can't put them through that (especially our
14-year-old) again.

DO NOT EAT ANY MEALS AT HER HOME! Ech!! Gross! Sometimes, my crew will
get
some nice table scraps as a treat, but they get them AFTER I finish
eating,
and in their own bowls. Pan has learned to sit and watch quietly, and
Cesca
and Nina are learning this art. I may spoil my four footed darlings, but
only within limits!

No, I don't even like to go into her house when we go down to New Orleans -
it smells and it's hard to navigate through all the mess. I usually stay
with my daughter and visit MIL briefly and then leave DH to visit with my
grandbabies.

They'd be a shock to anyone, believe me. I would not have put up with all
of
that, I must admit. I love dogs, and I would be delighted to be hostess
to
well-behaved ones like your SIL's dogs. Animals that know how to behave
properly are a pleasure to be around. If I had a dog of my own, I'd make
sure it was capable of being a good, polite dog guest before I made anyone
else accept it in their home. And I'd make sure the dog got walks and pee
breaks during the visit to avoid the possibility of accidents. My sister's
late Corgi, Maddy, was another well trained dog. There is no WAY I'd let
spoiled, undisciplined dogs stay long in my house, especially when they
made
messes indoors and their "Parent" Made no move to either discipline the
dog,
or clean up the mess.

Melissa.

See, that's what I can't understand. Even though I spoil my babies
terribly, I would be *so* embarrassed if they messed in someone's home - and
I would be mortified if they attacked someone else's beloved pet!!!

Hugs,

CatNipped

"Melissa Houle" wrote in message
...

Indeed! Two days into the visit, and either I'd have sent her to a hotel,
or
moved into one, myself. I agree by the way. I think the cats are very
stressed, and a visit to TED would only stress them out, worse. Never
forget that they could smell the D*gs leaving THEIR smell all over your
cat's home. They may have thought the arrangement was permanent, and
they'd
never be free, again.

You're right - but I don't think there is a hotel in the US who would take
her with 3 d*gs and a cat, so it would have to be me going to the hotel and
then I'd be worrying about what she and her animals were doing to my house
and my animals without me there.

"Well, Darling, I cleaned and disinfected the house. And you know? I'm
really tired of cooking and I want to go out for an elegant dinner at
___________________(Name of your favorite restaurant)." Better yet, get
him
to take you for a relaxing spa weekend. =o)

*Very* good idea, thanks!!

Especially not about that last bit! I think you should give DH an addendum
stating that if your rules about the dogs are not followed, you will be
LEAVING for the duration, and he can find you at the nicest motel in town.
And you would like to come home to a clean household.

I think what I will offer to do would be put her up, but kennel her d*gs
with our vet, having DH gently explain that while we would gladly give her
shelter from a hurricane, our beloved cats were stressed to the point of
illness by the d*gs and we can't put them through that (especially our
14-year-old) again.

DO NOT EAT ANY MEALS AT HER HOME! Ech!! Gross! Sometimes, my crew will
get
some nice table scraps as a treat, but they get them AFTER I finish
eating,
and in their own bowls. Pan has learned to sit and watch quietly, and
Cesca
and Nina are learning this art. I may spoil my four footed darlings, but
only within limits!

No, I don't even like to go into her house when we go down to New Orleans -
it smells and it's hard to navigate through all the mess. I usually stay
with my daughter and visit MIL briefly and then leave DH to visit with my
grandbabies.

They'd be a shock to anyone, believe me. I would not have put up with all
of
that, I must admit. I love dogs, and I would be delighted to be hostess
to
well-behaved ones like your SIL's dogs. Animals that know how to behave
properly are a pleasure to be around. If I had a dog of my own, I'd make
sure it was capable of being a good, polite dog guest before I made anyone
else accept it in their home. And I'd make sure the dog got walks and pee
breaks during the visit to avoid the possibility of accidents. My sister's
late Corgi, Maddy, was another well trained dog. There is no WAY I'd let
spoiled, undisciplined dogs stay long in my house, especially when they
made
messes indoors and their "Parent" Made no move to either discipline the
dog,
or clean up the mess.

Melissa.

See, that's what I can't understand. Even though I spoil my babies
terribly, I would be *so* embarrassed if they messed in someone's home - and
I would be mortified if they attacked someone else's beloved pet!!!

Hugs,

CatNipped

"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message
...

I have seen stress induced diahrea like that, and YES, just being confined
and knowing and smelling the other animals and the upset routine could
definitely cause it. Do keep an eye on them because they can also get a
UTI
from stress depressing their immunity. I suspect all will return to normal
soon. Good luck and do seek a vet if they aren't better in a day just to
be
safe.

Karen

Thanks Karen, I'm keeping my eye on them. Hopefully, with their house back
and with quiet again they will settle down today and get back to normal.

Hugs,

CatNipped

"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message
...

I have seen stress induced diahrea like that, and YES, just being confined
and knowing and smelling the other animals and the upset routine could
definitely cause it. Do keep an eye on them because they can also get a
UTI
from stress depressing their immunity. I suspect all will return to normal
soon. Good luck and do seek a vet if they aren't better in a day just to
be
safe.

Karen

Thanks Karen, I'm keeping my eye on them. Hopefully, with their house back
and with quiet again they will settle down today and get back to normal.

Hugs,

CatNipped

"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message
...

I have seen stress induced diahrea like that, and YES, just being confined
and knowing and smelling the other animals and the upset routine could
definitely cause it. Do keep an eye on them because they can also get a
UTI
from stress depressing their immunity. I suspect all will return to normal
soon. Good luck and do seek a vet if they aren't better in a day just to
be
safe.

Karen

Thanks Karen, I'm keeping my eye on them. Hopefully, with their house back
and with quiet again they will settle down today and get back to normal.

Hugs,

CatNipped