Allergies, Linear Granuloma, and Diet

PawsForThought wrote:

From: "Phil P."


Thanks, Karen. Dr. Hamilton is a highly respected veterinarian,

Homeopaths are *not* "highly respected veterinarians" by the mainstream
veterinary community... In fact, many if not most mainstream vets think
homeos are quacks. More importantly, many mainstream vets feel homeos are
*dangerous* because they deny or delay *real* veterinary care in the early
stages of disease when *real* veterinary care has the greatest chance of
effecting a cure.

One of our vets was an emergency and critical care specialist for 14 years.
Many homeo-treated animals ended up in his hospital, most died, because
their owners relied on homeos' "naturel remedies" and their other voodoo and
magical concoctions and magic wand waving when simple and timely *real*
veterinary care would have saved the animals' lives. They rushed their
animals to the emergency clinic when they finally realized the homeo was
quack and their animal was dying... Unfortunately, it was usually too late.


And on the other hand, there are many alternative veterinarians who have saved
the lives of many pets who couldn't be saved with allopathic medicine.
Homeopathic medicine has helped many of them.

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There are also many "mainstream" vets that screw cats up so badly they
have to be rushed to the ER, or just plain kill them. I don't think
"mainstream" or "homeopathic" one way or another equals superior care.
In my mind, and in the mind of many of both kinds of vets in my area,
they are complimentary. Any *good* vet should know when they are beyond
their level of competence and refer a patient on. If they don't they
shouldn't practive medicine, no matter what kind of vet they are. I
don't know where Phil lives, but if that's the attitude of the vets
there, I wouldn't want to go see them - as I wouldn't want to see a
human doctor with that kind of closed-minded attitude. But that's JMO.

K

"PawsForThought" wrote in message
...
From: "Phil P."


Thanks, Karen. Dr. Hamilton is a highly respected veterinarian,

Homeopaths are *not* "highly respected veterinarians" by the mainstream
veterinary community... In fact, many if not most mainstream vets think
homeos are quacks. More importantly, many mainstream vets feel homeos
are
*dangerous* because they deny or delay *real* veterinary care in the
early
stages of disease when *real* veterinary care has the greatest chance of
effecting a cure.

One of our vets was an emergency and critical care specialist for 14
years.
Many homeo-treated animals ended up in his hospital, most died, because
their owners relied on homeos' "naturel remedies" and their other voodoo
and
magical concoctions and magic wand waving when simple and timely *real*
veterinary care would have saved the animals' lives. They rushed their
animals to the emergency clinic when they finally realized the homeo was
quack and their animal was dying... Unfortunately, it was usually too
late.

And on the other hand, there are many alternative veterinarians who have
saved
the lives of many pets who couldn't be saved with allopathic medicine.

.... like the weirdoes who claimed they cured cats with FIP with some magical
herb? ROTFL!


Dr. Hamilton, a veterinarian, something YOU are not.

"Brilliant" deduction! Did you figure that out all by yourself or did your
whole fanatical cult help you? ROTFL!


So unless you have
something to add other than to slam me because I don't follow your line of
thinking, then go away.

You're right... I do slam you because I don't believe your line of conjured
up, buit-to-suit, bullsh!t stories and "experiences" for every occasion...If
even 1/10 of of your "me too" stories about adverse effects were true, your
cats would have been dead years ago... You would have to be a complete and
utter idiot to continue feeding a food that produced as many adverse effects
as you claim Hill's produced in your cats.... which come to think of it,
could be the case... you're not exactly the brightest bulb in the lamp...
especially if you think people actually believe your stories....


All you do is attack when you don't agree with someone
and call them names.

Right again! I certainly do attack liars like you and call liars like you
liars.


You just can't believe that my animals did poorly on your
beloved Science Diet.

I lost track of how many dozens of times I've told you that I *believe* your
cats could have done poorly on SD. It boggles the mind that you continue to
say that I don't believe you. If every cat did well on one diet, there
would only be one brand...I just don't believe, and I'm *sure* most rational
people don't believe, your cats developed anywhere near number of the
adverse effects you claim your cats developed. You would have to be a
complete and utter idiot to continue feeding a food that produced as many
adverse effects as you claim Hill's produced in your cats.... which in your
case, is entirely possible.


I don't know why a
person would have a problem with that or why you even care what I feed my
cats.


Don't flatter yourself, I don't care. However, I *do* care about your
trying to scare people away from an excellent food that *millions* of cats
have thrived on for *generations* with your conjured up, buit-to-suit
bullsh!t stories for every occasion simply because you have an obsessive,
pathological hatred for Hill's.


Frankly, you can believe what you want. All you do is call me a liar or
names, but yet you can't prove that I've ever lied about anything.

*Reality* proves you're a *liar*.... or a complete and utter idiot... Tough
call. I don't know of, nor does anyone I work with or anyone I'm associated
with *combined*, including 4 vets with over a thousand feline patients fed
Hill's, or three large pet stores *combined*, ever heard of any *hundred*
cats *combined* that experienced 1/10 of the adverse effects you've claimed
your cats experienced from Hill's. Yep... I'm pretty confident that you're
an obsessed, compulsive if not pathological liar.

"PawsForThought" wrote in message
...
From: "Phil P."


Thanks, Karen. Dr. Hamilton is a highly respected veterinarian,

Homeopaths are *not* "highly respected veterinarians" by the mainstream
veterinary community... In fact, many if not most mainstream vets think
homeos are quacks. More importantly, many mainstream vets feel homeos
are
*dangerous* because they deny or delay *real* veterinary care in the
early
stages of disease when *real* veterinary care has the greatest chance of
effecting a cure.

One of our vets was an emergency and critical care specialist for 14
years.
Many homeo-treated animals ended up in his hospital, most died, because
their owners relied on homeos' "naturel remedies" and their other voodoo
and
magical concoctions and magic wand waving when simple and timely *real*
veterinary care would have saved the animals' lives. They rushed their
animals to the emergency clinic when they finally realized the homeo was
quack and their animal was dying... Unfortunately, it was usually too
late.

And on the other hand, there are many alternative veterinarians who have
saved
the lives of many pets who couldn't be saved with allopathic medicine.

.... like the weirdoes who claimed they cured cats with FIP with some magical
herb? ROTFL!


Dr. Hamilton, a veterinarian, something YOU are not.

"Brilliant" deduction! Did you figure that out all by yourself or did your
whole fanatical cult help you? ROTFL!


So unless you have
something to add other than to slam me because I don't follow your line of
thinking, then go away.

You're right... I do slam you because I don't believe your line of conjured
up, buit-to-suit, bullsh!t stories and "experiences" for every occasion...If
even 1/10 of of your "me too" stories about adverse effects were true, your
cats would have been dead years ago... You would have to be a complete and
utter idiot to continue feeding a food that produced as many adverse effects
as you claim Hill's produced in your cats.... which come to think of it,
could be the case... you're not exactly the brightest bulb in the lamp...
especially if you think people actually believe your stories....


All you do is attack when you don't agree with someone
and call them names.

Right again! I certainly do attack liars like you and call liars like you
liars.


You just can't believe that my animals did poorly on your
beloved Science Diet.

I lost track of how many dozens of times I've told you that I *believe* your
cats could have done poorly on SD. It boggles the mind that you continue to
say that I don't believe you. If every cat did well on one diet, there
would only be one brand...I just don't believe, and I'm *sure* most rational
people don't believe, your cats developed anywhere near number of the
adverse effects you claim your cats developed. You would have to be a
complete and utter idiot to continue feeding a food that produced as many
adverse effects as you claim Hill's produced in your cats.... which in your
case, is entirely possible.


I don't know why a
person would have a problem with that or why you even care what I feed my
cats.


Don't flatter yourself, I don't care. However, I *do* care about your
trying to scare people away from an excellent food that *millions* of cats
have thrived on for *generations* with your conjured up, buit-to-suit
bullsh!t stories for every occasion simply because you have an obsessive,
pathological hatred for Hill's.


Frankly, you can believe what you want. All you do is call me a liar or
names, but yet you can't prove that I've ever lied about anything.

*Reality* proves you're a *liar*.... or a complete and utter idiot... Tough
call. I don't know of, nor does anyone I work with or anyone I'm associated
with *combined*, including 4 vets with over a thousand feline patients fed
Hill's, or three large pet stores *combined*, ever heard of any *hundred*
cats *combined* that experienced 1/10 of the adverse effects you've claimed
your cats experienced from Hill's. Yep... I'm pretty confident that you're
an obsessed, compulsive if not pathological liar.

"PawsForThought" wrote in message
...
From: "Phil P."

You keep forgetting I remember when you began posting.... You sure
accumulated a lot of "experiences" before you began posting *after* you
began posting.... LOL!


You keep forgetting that I remember you too, especially when it was
revealed
about your plagerizing on your website,

At least the information was *true* and *accurate*....LOL! Btw, Me Too
Lauren, I never claimed to have written or put my name on *any* article that
I didn't write...


and your little sock puppets, let's see
was it Phoenix Rising?

What about Phoenix? I clearly posted that a mutual friend arranged the
meeting as a surprise.... I forgot, you have a convenient memory....


LOL If anyone is a liar here, it's clearly you.

I don't think so. I have the truth on my side. You, on the other hand,
are an obvious compulsive liar. No rational and reasonably intelligent
person could possibly believe your cats developed all the adverse effects
you claim your cats did... and that you continued to feed your cats a food
that continuously produced adverse effects. And if you did, you're too
stupid to be entrusted with a cat's life. So either way you lose. Liar or
idiot? Which is it? Take your pick because either apply.

"PawsForThought" wrote in message
...
From: "Phil P."

You keep forgetting I remember when you began posting.... You sure
accumulated a lot of "experiences" before you began posting *after* you
began posting.... LOL!


You keep forgetting that I remember you too, especially when it was
revealed
about your plagerizing on your website,

At least the information was *true* and *accurate*....LOL! Btw, Me Too
Lauren, I never claimed to have written or put my name on *any* article that
I didn't write...


and your little sock puppets, let's see
was it Phoenix Rising?

What about Phoenix? I clearly posted that a mutual friend arranged the
meeting as a surprise.... I forgot, you have a convenient memory....


LOL If anyone is a liar here, it's clearly you.

I don't think so. I have the truth on my side. You, on the other hand,
are an obvious compulsive liar. No rational and reasonably intelligent
person could possibly believe your cats developed all the adverse effects
you claim your cats did... and that you continued to feed your cats a food
that continuously produced adverse effects. And if you did, you're too
stupid to be entrusted with a cat's life. So either way you lose. Liar or
idiot? Which is it? Take your pick because either apply.

"Karen M." wrote in message
om...
(Steve Crane) wrote in message
. com...

Karen,
I won't speak for Phil, but continuous attempts to cure every ill
known to man by suggesting a raw diet is really really dangerous.
Seriously it is extremely dangerous to offer some of the advice I have
seen on this and other NG's by the raw crowd. I've seen advice for
renal failure cats and dogs that would have killed them in very short
order. I think there is an obligation to temper the wild claims and
testimonial evidence with some facts once in awhile. Some pet's will
inevitably suffer if it isn't done.


I don't think that's why he's doing it. He's doing it as a vendetta,

You're mistaken. I have no "vendetta"; I treat all dangerous compulsive
liars with equal contempt.

He's downright mean.

That's not true! I'm a lefty!

"Karen M." wrote in message
om...
(Steve Crane) wrote in message
. com...

Karen,
I won't speak for Phil, but continuous attempts to cure every ill
known to man by suggesting a raw diet is really really dangerous.
Seriously it is extremely dangerous to offer some of the advice I have
seen on this and other NG's by the raw crowd. I've seen advice for
renal failure cats and dogs that would have killed them in very short
order. I think there is an obligation to temper the wild claims and
testimonial evidence with some facts once in awhile. Some pet's will
inevitably suffer if it isn't done.


I don't think that's why he's doing it. He's doing it as a vendetta,

You're mistaken. I have no "vendetta"; I treat all dangerous compulsive
liars with equal contempt.

He's downright mean.

That's not true! I'm a lefty!

"PawsForThought" wrote in message
...
From: "Phil P."


Thanks, Karen. Dr. Hamilton is a highly respected veterinarian,

Homeopaths are *not* "highly respected veterinarians" by the mainstream
veterinary community... In fact, many if not most mainstream vets think
homeos are quacks. More importantly, many mainstream vets feel homeos
are
*dangerous* because they deny or delay *real* veterinary care in the
early
stages of disease when *real* veterinary care has the greatest chance of
effecting a cure.

One of our vets was an emergency and critical care specialist for 14
years.
Many homeo-treated animals ended up in his hospital, most died, because
their owners relied on homeos' "naturel remedies" and their other voodoo
and
magical concoctions and magic wand waving when simple and timely *real*
veterinary care would have saved the animals' lives. They rushed their
animals to the emergency clinic when they finally realized the homeo was
quack and their animal was dying... Unfortunately, it was usually too
late.

And on the other hand, there are many alternative veterinarians who have
saved
the lives of many pets who couldn't be saved with allopathic medicine.

.... like the quack homeos who claimed they cured cats with FIP with some
magical herb? ROTFL!


Dr. Hamilton, a veterinarian, something YOU are not.

"Brilliant" deduction! Did you figure that out all by yourself or did your
whole fanatical cult help you? ROTFL!


So unless you have
something to add other than to slam me because I don't follow your line of
thinking, then go away.

You're right... I do slam you because I don't believe your line of conjured
up, built-to-suit, bullsh!t stories and "experiences" for every
occasion...If
even 1/10 of of your "me too" stories about adverse effects were true, your
cats would have been dead years ago... You would have to be a complete and
utter idiot to continue feeding a food that produced as many adverse effects
as you claim Hill's produced in your cats.... which come to think of it,
could be the case... you're not exactly the brightest bulb in the lamp...
especially if you think people actually believe your stories....


All you do is attack when you don't agree with someone
and call them names.

Right again! I certainly do attack liars like you and call liars like you
liars.


You just can't believe that my animals did poorly on your
beloved Science Diet.

I lost track of how many dozens of times I've told you that I *believe* your
cats could have done poorly on SD. It boggles the mind that you continue to
say that I don't believe you. If every cat did well on one diet, there
would only be one brand...I just don't believe, and I'm *sure* most rational
people don't believe, your cats developed anywhere near number of the
adverse effects you claim your cats developed. You would have to be a
complete and utter idiot to continue feeding a food that produced as many
adverse effects as you claim Hill's produced in your cats.... which in your
case, is entirely possible.


I don't know why a
person would have a problem with that or why you even care what I feed my
cats.


Don't flatter yourself, I don't care. However, I *do* care about your
trying to scare people away from an excellent food that *millions* of cats
have thrived on for *generations* with your conjured up, built-to-suit
bullsh!t stories for every occasion simply because you have an obsessive,
pathological hatred for Hill's and fanatical obsession with carrion....


Frankly, you can believe what you want. All you do is call me a liar or
names, but yet you can't prove that I've ever lied about anything.

*Reality* proves you're a *liar*.... or a complete and utter idiot... Tough
call. I don't know of, nor does anyone I work with or anyone I'm associated
with *combined*, including 4 vets with over a thousand feline patients fed
Hill's, or three large pet stores *combined*, ever heard of any *hundred*
cats *combined* that experienced 1/10 of the adverse effects you've claimed
your cats experienced from Hill's. Yep... I'm pretty confident that you're
an obsessed, compulsive if not pathological liar.

"PawsForThought" wrote in message
...
From: "Phil P."


Thanks, Karen. Dr. Hamilton is a highly respected veterinarian,

Homeopaths are *not* "highly respected veterinarians" by the mainstream
veterinary community... In fact, many if not most mainstream vets think
homeos are quacks. More importantly, many mainstream vets feel homeos
are
*dangerous* because they deny or delay *real* veterinary care in the
early
stages of disease when *real* veterinary care has the greatest chance of
effecting a cure.

One of our vets was an emergency and critical care specialist for 14
years.
Many homeo-treated animals ended up in his hospital, most died, because
their owners relied on homeos' "naturel remedies" and their other voodoo
and
magical concoctions and magic wand waving when simple and timely *real*
veterinary care would have saved the animals' lives. They rushed their
animals to the emergency clinic when they finally realized the homeo was
quack and their animal was dying... Unfortunately, it was usually too
late.

And on the other hand, there are many alternative veterinarians who have
saved
the lives of many pets who couldn't be saved with allopathic medicine.

.... like the quack homeos who claimed they cured cats with FIP with some
magical herb? ROTFL!


Dr. Hamilton, a veterinarian, something YOU are not.

"Brilliant" deduction! Did you figure that out all by yourself or did your
whole fanatical cult help you? ROTFL!


So unless you have
something to add other than to slam me because I don't follow your line of
thinking, then go away.

You're right... I do slam you because I don't believe your line of conjured
up, built-to-suit, bullsh!t stories and "experiences" for every
occasion...If
even 1/10 of of your "me too" stories about adverse effects were true, your
cats would have been dead years ago... You would have to be a complete and
utter idiot to continue feeding a food that produced as many adverse effects
as you claim Hill's produced in your cats.... which come to think of it,
could be the case... you're not exactly the brightest bulb in the lamp...
especially if you think people actually believe your stories....


All you do is attack when you don't agree with someone
and call them names.

Right again! I certainly do attack liars like you and call liars like you
liars.


You just can't believe that my animals did poorly on your
beloved Science Diet.

I lost track of how many dozens of times I've told you that I *believe* your
cats could have done poorly on SD. It boggles the mind that you continue to
say that I don't believe you. If every cat did well on one diet, there
would only be one brand...I just don't believe, and I'm *sure* most rational
people don't believe, your cats developed anywhere near number of the
adverse effects you claim your cats developed. You would have to be a
complete and utter idiot to continue feeding a food that produced as many
adverse effects as you claim Hill's produced in your cats.... which in your
case, is entirely possible.


I don't know why a
person would have a problem with that or why you even care what I feed my
cats.


Don't flatter yourself, I don't care. However, I *do* care about your
trying to scare people away from an excellent food that *millions* of cats
have thrived on for *generations* with your conjured up, built-to-suit
bullsh!t stories for every occasion simply because you have an obsessive,
pathological hatred for Hill's and fanatical obsession with carrion....


Frankly, you can believe what you want. All you do is call me a liar or
names, but yet you can't prove that I've ever lied about anything.

*Reality* proves you're a *liar*.... or a complete and utter idiot... Tough
call. I don't know of, nor does anyone I work with or anyone I'm associated
with *combined*, including 4 vets with over a thousand feline patients fed
Hill's, or three large pet stores *combined*, ever heard of any *hundred*
cats *combined* that experienced 1/10 of the adverse effects you've claimed
your cats experienced from Hill's. Yep... I'm pretty confident that you're
an obsessed, compulsive if not pathological liar.

"Karen M." wrote in message
om...
(Steve Crane) wrote in message
. com...

Karen,
I won't speak for Phil, but continuous attempts to cure every ill
known to man by suggesting a raw diet is really really dangerous.
Seriously it is extremely dangerous to offer some of the advice I have
seen on this and other NG's by the raw crowd. I've seen advice for
renal failure cats and dogs that would have killed them in very short
order. I think there is an obligation to temper the wild claims and
testimonial evidence with some facts once in awhile. Some pet's will
inevitably suffer if it isn't done.


I don't think that's why he's doing it. He's doing it as a vendetta,

You're mistaken. I have no "vendetta"; I treat all dangerous compulsive
liars with equal contempt.

He's downright mean.

That's not true! I'm a lefty!