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"Rhonda" wrote: She needs some tests done at the vet -- blood tests at the very least. One thing could be that if she is diabetic, which is not uncommon in older cats, she can have seizures if her blood sugar gets too low. Think of any other symptoms you might have noticed from what she's taking in to what is coming out, and if she's been more tired lately, etc. Hope the vet can find out what's going on. Rhonda Thanks Rhonda - folks - of course I will take her to the vet. I just thought the expertise in this group would have a clue. -- altheim Our cat, now about fourteen years old, has recently started having some sort of fit, or attack. Her legs give way, then she rolls about threshing and squealing in agony. This lasts for a few seconds, but then it seems to be over and she gets up and carries on as normal. These fits are now occurring about once every two to four days. |
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altheim wrote: Our cat, now about fourteen years old, has recently started having some sort of fit, or attack. Her legs give way, then she rolls about threshing and squealing in agony. This lasts for a few seconds, but then it seems to be over and she gets up and carries on as normal. These fits are now occurring about once every two to four days. When it first happened I suspected heart attack, but if it were that I don't think she would be able to scream. It didn't look like an epileptic fit to me and a stroke should leave her debilitated in some way. I'm guessing! I should take her to the vet but there is nothing visible to show him. She is otherwise quite healthy. She eats, drinks and 'goes' normally, as far as I can tell. We buy her ordinary supermarket cat food. She sleeps indoors. Anyone know what's happening? Nope, but as others have said, it's definitely vet time. One of my cats had seizures, which I did not recognize as such. But when I described the symptoms to my vet, she said, "I'm quite sure she was having a seizure." And, one of the times I had that particular cat at the vet, she exhibited the symptoms in the examining room. Vet therefore witnessed it & confirmed "Seizure." So... even if your cat acts perfectly normally while at the vet appt., it most likely won't be in vain. Cathy -- altheim |
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"altheim" wrote in message ... "Rhonda" wrote: She needs some tests done at the vet -- blood tests at the very least. One thing could be that if she is diabetic, which is not uncommon in older cats, she can have seizures if her blood sugar gets too low. Think of any other symptoms you might have noticed from what she's taking in to what is coming out, and if she's been more tired lately, etc. Hope the vet can find out what's going on. Rhonda Thanks Rhonda - folks - of course I will take her to the vet. I just thought the expertise in this group would have a clue. Yeah. The clue is, you should have taken her right to the vet. Asshole. |
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altheim wrote: I should take her to the vet but there is nothing visible to show him. She is otherwise quite healthy. She eats, drinks and 'goes' normally, as far as I can tell. We buy her ordinary supermarket cat food. She sleeps indoors. Not only can the vet see stuff we don't, they know the right questions to ask to find out the stuff you saw but didn't realize it. For example, 8 years ago, I adopted a rescued dog. She had been abused and was severely messed up. A few months into, I was moving her, and she yelped. All I had done was put my hands around her middle and try to move her sideways. A nromal dog would not have yelped. Knowing she had been abused (and kicked), I figured sh ehad been kicked hard, and maybe had suffered a broken rib. If so, it had to have healed, even if poorly, and there wouldn't be anything to do about it now. But I figured I should get an x-ray and find out, so that I would know exactly where she was sore and not push there. The vet knew otherwise. He listened to what I said, and did his own exam hands on. He noticed that her front leg was stiff on one side (a symptom), and he hasked me questions. Has she coughed much? Yes. Sounds like she has a hairball, but she never coughed anything up. (another symptom). He did the x-ray, but the results were no surprised to him, only to me. She had an enlarged heart. Something more common in smaller dogs as breeders breed down for a smaller version of the breed. Jenny us an undersized sheltie, and her heart is healthy, but a bit too big for her body. Because of this, her heart pushes on her windpipe on a daily basis, causing her to cough if she exercises too much. Especially if she gains weight (which she did when I got her). Then teh fat takes up room,and there is even less room for her organs, so a simple squeeze to move her over is enough to cause her pain. We put her on a special diet keep her weight ideal, and she rarely ever coughs. If she does, I know to check her weight and adjust her diet. I also have to limit her exercise and stop her when she plays to hard. And we all know not to squeeze her. No grabbing her body and moving her over or trying to pull her toward us. And we use a different technique to pick her up so that she is more comfortable. I went to the vet that day, thinking it was an old injury with no treatment. I just wanted to know what it was. I came away knowing my dog had a serious condition that could be controlled easily, but *needed* to be controlled, or it could kill her. Your vet knows a ton more than you do, that's why they studied all this stuff. They will know what to look for, what to check, and what to ask. |
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"-L." wrote: wrote: Nope, but as others have said, it's definitely vet time. One of my cats had seizures, which I did not recognize as such. But when I described the symptoms to my vet, she said, "I'm quite sure she was having a seizure." And, one of the times I had that particular cat at the vet, she exhibited the symptoms in the examining room. Vet therefore witnessed it & confirmed "Seizure." Just out of curiousity, what were her symptoms? I have seen some weird seizure symptoms... I'm not quite sure what is meant by 'seizure'. It could mean anything, yet the Op above, writes it 'Seizure' - in uppercase - like it means something specific. I'd be sceptical of any vet who said that. I'd want an explanation. Anyway, the symptom that stands out in my mind is that her legs seem to give way - she falls over - and that is when she begins howling. I wonder if it could be fear rather than pain? There's no frothing at the mouth, no sign of breathlessness or anything like that, and it only lasts a few seconds. -- altheim |
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wrote: altheim wrote: I should take her to the vet but there is nothing visible to show him. She is otherwise quite healthy. She eats, drinks and 'goes' normally, as far as I can tell. We buy her ordinary supermarket cat food. She sleeps indoors. Not only can the vet see stuff we don't, they know the right questions to ask to find out the stuff you saw but didn't realize it. [snip for brevity] I went to the vet that day, thinking it was an old injury with no treatment. I just wanted to know what it was. I came away knowing my dog had a serious condition that could be controlled easily, but *needed* to be controlled, or it could kill her. Your vet knows a ton more than you do, that's why they studied all this stuff. They will know what to look for, what to check, and what to ask. This isn't in dispute. I coulda just taken the cat to the vet and not bothered with you guys. What is this group for if not to talk about cats health and behaviour? I think I was deeply mistaken about the 'expertise' here. -- altheim |
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altheim wrote:
"-L." wrote: wrote: Nope, but as others have said, it's definitely vet time. One of my cats had seizures, which I did not recognize as such. But when I described the symptoms to my vet, she said, "I'm quite sure she was having a seizure." And, one of the times I had that particular cat at the vet, she exhibited the symptoms in the examining room. Vet therefore witnessed it & confirmed "Seizure." Just out of curiousity, what were her symptoms? I have seen some weird seizure symptoms... I'm not quite sure what is meant by 'seizure'. It could mean anything, yet the Op above, writes it 'Seizure' - in uppercase - like it means something specific. I'd be sceptical of any vet who said that. I'd want an explanation. Anyway, the symptom that stands out in my mind is that her legs seem to give way - she falls over - and that is when she begins howling. I wonder if it could be fear rather than pain? There's no frothing at the mouth, no sign of breathlessness or anything like that, and it only lasts a few seconds. -- altheim You need to read up on seizures. They come in all sizes and styles. You are confusing grand mal with petit mal seizures or what you see on the idiot tube as seizures. Many seizures do not have frothing at the mouth. And there is not breathlessness either. Where do you get these ideas? From TV? Please take the time to read up any basic level text on seizures. I had a cat with seizures and there was never ever any frothing or breathlessness --- and the treatment is dirt cheap, usually phenobarbital for cats, not Dilantin which is for dogs, but phenobarbital. There are more modern medicines but these will do. You need to remind the vets of this - most vets in my experience do not know much at all about cats and brains. But it helps to uncover the cause of seizures, or spells or whatever your cat is undergoing. And this will take work on your part. Asking in a newsgroup at this point is sad. But most vets won't have a clue either. So I feel badly for all concerned. If you can afford it, an x-ray of the skull is usually the place to start. An MRI is better but? You are looking for an injury as a start. If not injury, then I don't know what would be the cause, maybe a tumor? You will need an extremely intelligent vet. There are vets who specialize in neurology, usually in vet schools. But even the best vet schools may not have a neurology professor vet. So ask. Do you have the interest and money to check this out? Sometimes they will take in the feline and treat for a reduced cost to show the young and quite inexperienced and clueless student vets. This is painful to watch but part of the process. |
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altheim wrote: I think I was deeply mistaken about the 'expertise' here. Read my above post. The treatment is 1/8th grain phenobarbitol twice a day for idiopathic seizures for cats. Make sure you are trained how to give a tiny pill to a cat. I found it not difficult but not that simple either. I just place the pill on the back of her tongue. The cat did not ever bite or scratch me either which I found surprising. But maybe she knew I was helping her. Maybe you can put it in food. The pill is extremely small so easy to deal with. Before you cast aspersions, you should do some basic reading. From your comments, you do not know anything about seizures and appear to be going by what you see in the movies or television. There is expertise in this newsgroup but you have to bring something to the plate or table. Just to bring vague and very wrong suppositions will not be good for your cat or your responses from the newsgroup. If you can up your knowledge, the responses will increase too. Most vets won't have the expertise to solve this problem. So fine. I have given you the cure which is extraordinarily cheap. It won't cure cure, but if it's a seizure it will stop the cat from having these terrifying spells, as they used to be called in a different time and place. Again, 1/8th grain phenobarbitol, B.I.D., got it? That's the prescription. An old drug that you can buy a year's supply for a few dollars. But you will need to tell the vet's that. If they look it up in their textbooks, then can verify what I have posted here. |
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"altheim" wrote in message ... wrote: altheim wrote: I should take her to the vet but there is nothing visible to show him. She is otherwise quite healthy. She eats, drinks and 'goes' normally, as far as I can tell. We buy her ordinary supermarket cat food. She sleeps indoors. Not only can the vet see stuff we don't, they know the right questions to ask to find out the stuff you saw but didn't realize it. [snip for brevity] I went to the vet that day, thinking it was an old injury with no treatment. I just wanted to know what it was. I came away knowing my dog had a serious condition that could be controlled easily, but *needed* to be controlled, or it could kill her. Your vet knows a ton more than you do, that's why they studied all this stuff. They will know what to look for, what to check, and what to ask. This isn't in dispute. I coulda just taken the cat to the vet and not bothered with you guys. What is this group for if not to talk about cats health and behaviour? I think I was deeply mistaken about the 'expertise' here. -- altheim If you had posted the vet did tests and here are the results you would have gotten more specific answers. All you posted is that the cat acted strangely, you suspect maybe it's a seizure but OTOH could be something else, that it might just be pain and expect someone to diagnose your cat's problem. The consensus is to take the cat to a vet, explain the symptoms and let the vet run some basic tests to start. Someone mentioned that diabetes can cause seizures as well as injuries or neurological disorders. With a 14 yr. old cat some other health problem could be developing that could cause the symptom you describe. Even if there were a vet posting here regularly, which there isn't, I don't know any who would diagnose the animal from just the information you gave. So have you made the vet appointment yet? W |
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