Food for flat nosed cat?

On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 07:45:39 -0600, kaeli
wrote:

In article ,
enlightened us with...
The problem is, the breeder
will only allow her stud to mate with Labs. She breeds Labradoodles.
My friend is completely against this.

Why?
All breeds that are popular today began as hybrids. They didn't just
evolve from the hand of the Almighty.

She's probably against it because there is no attempt to make
an actual breed in 'Labradoodles' (nor in cockapoos or any of the
other cutesy-named dogs). These people are simply breeding
mixed-breed dogs, most often without any health testing. Pups for
bucks, 99.9% of the time.



Orchid

Orchid's Kitties: http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
Orchid's Guide: http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:16:41 -0500, "Cheryl"
wrote:

In ,
PawsForThought composed with style:
http://www.bc-labradoodles.com/

How strange. I've never heard of these dogs before.

Me neither....
Shame on me. I missed the opportunity to shamelessly plug my friends
poodle site.
http://www.paulaspoodles.atfreeweb.com/

Yow. Maybe hint to your friend that information is a good
thing, and there's no content cost on the Internet. She needs to post
titles, OFA and CERF scores, and information on her lines before she's
going to come off as anything but a BYB.

Here's an exmaple of an excellent breeder's website:
http://home1.gte.net/res0s12z/dogs.htm

Click on each of the dogs' names to see what info she *should*
be putting up there.



Orchid

Orchid's Kitties: http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
Orchid's Guide: http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid

On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 20:16:41 -0500, "Cheryl"
wrote:

In ,
PawsForThought composed with style:
http://www.bc-labradoodles.com/

How strange. I've never heard of these dogs before.

Me neither....
Shame on me. I missed the opportunity to shamelessly plug my friends
poodle site.
http://www.paulaspoodles.atfreeweb.com/

Yow. Maybe hint to your friend that information is a good
thing, and there's no content cost on the Internet. She needs to post
titles, OFA and CERF scores, and information on her lines before she's
going to come off as anything but a BYB.

Here's an exmaple of an excellent breeder's website:
http://home1.gte.net/res0s12z/dogs.htm

Click on each of the dogs' names to see what info she *should*
be putting up there.



Orchid

Orchid's Kitties: http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
Orchid's Guide: http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid

"PawsForThought" wrote in message
...
From: kaeli


I didn't even realize they'd messed up the Siamese so bad until you guys
brought this up. I don't see them much anymore, and the ones I do see
are appleheads. Then I went and looked at the breed page over at cat
fanciers. Damn! They're ugly now!

I have a picture of my childhood Siamese on the second page of my webpage,
very
last picture (only black & white one). You can see she was the
traditional
kind (is this what they call applehead?):

http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe/1

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

Yes, Amos was what I refer to as "applehead." And wasn't he beautiful? Why
take a lovely cat like the traditional (applehead) Siamese (or the
traditional Persion) and deliberately breed for extreme characteristics --
replete with health problems?

MaryL

"PawsForThought" wrote in message
...
From: kaeli


I didn't even realize they'd messed up the Siamese so bad until you guys
brought this up. I don't see them much anymore, and the ones I do see
are appleheads. Then I went and looked at the breed page over at cat
fanciers. Damn! They're ugly now!

I have a picture of my childhood Siamese on the second page of my webpage,
very
last picture (only black & white one). You can see she was the
traditional
kind (is this what they call applehead?):

http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe/1

Lauren
________
See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe
Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html
http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html
Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm

Yes, Amos was what I refer to as "applehead." And wasn't he beautiful? Why
take a lovely cat like the traditional (applehead) Siamese (or the
traditional Persion) and deliberately breed for extreme characteristics --
replete with health problems?

MaryL

kaeli wrote in message . ..
(...)

Here's some pics of the doll-face variety of Persian as well as some
brief history. The last link shows that some people do still breed for
the doll-face rather than the flat-face.
http://www.thecatsite.com/cat_breeds....php?a=persian
http://www.traditionalcats.com/Breed...ianHistory.htm
http://www.rockymountainpersians.com/doll_face_persians


I guess the third link above shows somewhat less extreme faces, but
they are still rather unlike the 'historical' cats in link 2. Those
historical cats look wonderful, absolutely unlike the current
abortions (e.g., this 'un
http://www.traditionalcats.com/Breed...%20Duchess.jpg
is amazing).

On the Siamese front, I'd like something to exist somewhere between
the Applehead and Extreme variants, although the extremes do seem to
be becoming more so.

Must admit, if I was in the Big Chair for a day, I'd eliminate all
breeds that are 'unfit' in a Darwinian sense (unless they actually
emerged naturally, and the breeding was designed to maintain the
existence of the breed ... manx cats might be an example of this).

Steve.

kaeli wrote in message . ..
(...)

Here's some pics of the doll-face variety of Persian as well as some
brief history. The last link shows that some people do still breed for
the doll-face rather than the flat-face.
http://www.thecatsite.com/cat_breeds....php?a=persian
http://www.traditionalcats.com/Breed...ianHistory.htm
http://www.rockymountainpersians.com/doll_face_persians


I guess the third link above shows somewhat less extreme faces, but
they are still rather unlike the 'historical' cats in link 2. Those
historical cats look wonderful, absolutely unlike the current
abortions (e.g., this 'un
http://www.traditionalcats.com/Breed...%20Duchess.jpg
is amazing).

On the Siamese front, I'd like something to exist somewhere between
the Applehead and Extreme variants, although the extremes do seem to
be becoming more so.

Must admit, if I was in the Big Chair for a day, I'd eliminate all
breeds that are 'unfit' in a Darwinian sense (unless they actually
emerged naturally, and the breeding was designed to maintain the
existence of the breed ... manx cats might be an example of this).

Steve.

Sherry wrote:

ntp.lucent.com

In article , darnit7
enlightened us with...

If judges created this, I think it's horrible How can someone sacrifice

the

health of a cat like that. Argh
I know what you mean about the Siamese. I had a Siamese growing up and she
looked nothing like the ones I see nowadays.

I didn't even realize they'd messed up the Siamese so bad until you guys
brought this up. I don't see them much anymore, and the ones I do see
are appleheads. Then I went and looked at the breed page over at cat
fanciers. Damn! They're ugly now!
Some people still breed the applehead, though, as I found some sites
when I was looking around.

Here's the pretty applehead ("traditional")...
http://www.siamesekittens.com/

Here's CF breed profile with the ones that look like a Sphynx with fur.
http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/siamese.html

WTF happened?
*shakes head*

----------------------------------------------

~kaeli~


Stupid people, altering the way a cat looks so they can win their stupid
rosettes from the stupid judges who start the whole thing in motion by the cats
they choose as "winners."

Sherry

Here's the CF breed profile for the Persian -
http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/persian.html

Look at the cat pictured, it doesn't even *look* like a freakin' cat! It
looks like a mogwi or something!!

K

Sherry wrote:

ntp.lucent.com

In article , darnit7
enlightened us with...

If judges created this, I think it's horrible How can someone sacrifice

the

health of a cat like that. Argh
I know what you mean about the Siamese. I had a Siamese growing up and she
looked nothing like the ones I see nowadays.

I didn't even realize they'd messed up the Siamese so bad until you guys
brought this up. I don't see them much anymore, and the ones I do see
are appleheads. Then I went and looked at the breed page over at cat
fanciers. Damn! They're ugly now!
Some people still breed the applehead, though, as I found some sites
when I was looking around.

Here's the pretty applehead ("traditional")...
http://www.siamesekittens.com/

Here's CF breed profile with the ones that look like a Sphynx with fur.
http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/siamese.html

WTF happened?
*shakes head*

----------------------------------------------

~kaeli~


Stupid people, altering the way a cat looks so they can win their stupid
rosettes from the stupid judges who start the whole thing in motion by the cats
they choose as "winners."

Sherry

Here's the CF breed profile for the Persian -
http://www.cfainc.org/breeds/profiles/persian.html

Look at the cat pictured, it doesn't even *look* like a freakin' cat! It
looks like a mogwi or something!!

K

"Karen M." wrote in message
...


I've been thinking - could the problem possibly be that his eyes are
too
close to the plate, so it kind of freaks him out?

I imagine so! And it must be nearly impossible to eat without getting
food in the nostrils. Poor babies.