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Woman puts kitten in bin - it's ok it's not hurt!
Lesley wrote:
On 26 Aug, 15:18, Adrian wrote: I'd like to know which bank Mary Bale works for so if she keeps her job there people know to boycott it. Royal Bank of Scotland and they have already said they would not discipline her as she hadn't committed anything bad work related Lesley Slave of the Fabulous Furballs Maybe they'll change their mind if they start losing customers. -- Adrian (Owned by Bagheera & Shadow) Cats leave pawprints on your heart http://community.webshots.com/user/clowderuk |
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Lesley wrote:
"MaryL" wrote: And the fact the video clearly shows her looking around first also proves (IMO) that it wasn't even a "spur of the moment" impulse. She's trying to say she doesn't know what came over her but on the video she clearly looks round to see if anyone is watching her so not only was it not a spur of the moment thing but she plainly knew she shouldn't be doing it! The fact that she looked around to see if she was being observed shows that she knew what she was doing was wrong, or would get her in trouble. But I don't think it proves "premeditation". She could have had the sudden urge to put the cat in the bin, and still known it was wrong. Joyce -- Once upon a time, the world was young and the words "mackerel" and "pudding" existed far, far away from one another. One day, that all changed. And then, whoever was responsible somehow thought the word "fluffy" would help. -- Hilarious recipes at: www.candyboots.com |
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Woman puts kitten in bin - it's ok it's not hurt!
wrote in message ... Debbie Wilson wrote: wrote: Why do they keep saying "she has not committed a criminal offence"? Are they saying that this action doesn't constitute cruelty to animals? That's all I can assume - it is probably up to the RSPCA to gather the evidence to prosecute her, as they are the 'official' body. :-( Sounds like it doesn't bode well, then. I gather from both you and Christina that the RSPCA isn't well thought-of by people who have serious concerns about animal welfare. What people do not seem to realise is that the RSPCA is a charity. To prosecute anyone for animal cruelty they have to take out a "private prosecution" like any member of the public would have to do. They portray themselves as "the animal police" but have no more powers that I have myself. I think they've done this for so long now that even the "real police" believe that they can just leave it to the RSPCA. If the police say there is no crime committed here that they can act upon, it's probably true. Throwing a cat into a wheelie bin where she might have got crushed if the lorry had come along to collect it before she was found *should* be a crime in my book. It seems that under UK law as it stands atm, it isn't. She's a bank clerk for the Royal Bank of Scotland - hmm, I bet they took her off the front desk for now!! Tweed |
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Woman puts kitten in bin - it's ok it's not hurt!
"outsider" wrote in message ... wrote in : outsider wrote: No one has taken the law into their own hands first of all. Secondly the cat was in a bin in hot summer weather for hours and she apparently crapped on herself. I guess some people would consider that plenty hurt. If the owner had not heard the cat it would be dead. That's the thing - this cat was lucky, her people heard her crying and found her. It could have ended much worse for her. So even if the woman's actions didn't end up with a dead cat, she certainly endangered the cat. That itself is a crime. I have to agree with Cheryl that death threats aren't appropriate, but I certainly understand the anger. Joyce Sad to say, making death threats is almost a hobby for some people these days. Death threats are not appropriate, of course, but I would certainly like her punished in some way. I'm not sure that under UK law as it stands that anyone can do anything about it in any sort of legal way. It does not seem to be a crime, but maybe if the police were pushed a lot about it, they might find something to pin on her, in some obscure act of the law. For example, it is still (apparently) dodgy here to go out without money in your pocket (Vagrancy Act from god knows when, never repealed) When I used to take my elderly neighbour out she always insisted on putting some coins in her pocket. Tweed |
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Woman puts kitten in bin - it's ok it's not hurt!
Christina Websell wrote:
Death threats are not appropriate, of course, but I would certainly like her punished in some way. Public shame and embarrassment is a good punishment - and in this case, it's *very* public. She doesn't appear to be shamed by it, but who knows? If she did feel that way, would she say so? Joyce -- Taxes: Money you complain about giving the government, to pay for services whose absence you would complain about. -- John O'Hanlon |
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Woman puts kitten in bin - it's ok it's not hurt!
"Donna M." wrote in
: On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 14:29:04 -0500, MaryL wrote: "Sharon & Smudgie" sharonand wrote in message newsYyco.127342$Nu2.82590@hurricane... http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100823/...-cctv-dumping- kitten-870a197.html I was disgusted by this. Poor little thing was there for 16 hours before someone heard it and rescued it! Sharon What a scummy thing to do. They have good evidence--that video is very clear, and it is also clear that the woman looked around several times (undoubtedly to be sure that no one was watching) before dumping the poor little kitty. I hope the publicity forces law enforcement to take strong action and "throw the book at her," if they were not going to do so originally. She is first shown petting the cat as if to make friends, then deliberately dumping it in the trash can. Poor little kitten. MaryL MaryL This story made me want to throw that lady in a bin for 16 hours. Poor little cat. Thank God the cat's owners got their kitty back. Wanton cruelty is disgusting. I'm not sorry that she's facing some backlash from animal lovers. It's good when karma kicks in almost immediately -- the lesson stands a better chance of sticking that way. Let her keep the @#$& away from cats (and any other creature that can't defend itself) from now on. Donna Yep. I have less than zero sympathy for this piece of crap. This is not something that just happened to her. This was not a fight that got out of hand or anything that anyone helped cause but herself. It is, at least, a small consolation to imagine that wherever she goes people will point at her and ask how she would like to spend 14 hours in an airtight box in the summer heat. |
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Woman puts kitten in bin - it's ok it's not hurt!
"Donna M." wrote in
: His defense was that his sentence was stricter than the punishment of some people who harmed a human being. But that was also a case of abuse on a HUMAN, not just the dog. The dog had belonged to the perpetrator's mother, and he hurt the dog to get back at his mother for not letting him use her car. So basically, this guy was abusing HIS OWN MOTHER as well as the dog. If he'd do something heinous to lash out as his mother in any way possible, what would he be willing to do to other people? Thank God he's slated to be off the streets for nine years. Too bad it's not longer. I hope he flunks every parole hearing and has to serve every last second of those nine years. Anyway, I've got that story on the brain and it's a clear example of why we need to take animal cruelty seriously as a society. There needs to be a strict set of laws against cruelty to animals. This behavior is unacceptable, to put it mildly. Donna Certain foul acts stand on their own without consideration of who or what the victim was. Having said that I think hurting an animal carries more onus than hurting a person in many respects since a person can, at least, understand what is going on. |
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Woman puts kitten in bin - it's ok it's not hurt!
Christina Websell wrote:
"outsider" wrote in message ... wrote in : outsider wrote: No one has taken the law into their own hands first of all. Secondly the cat was in a bin in hot summer weather for hours and she apparently crapped on herself. I guess some people would consider that plenty hurt. If the owner had not heard the cat it would be dead. That's the thing - this cat was lucky, her people heard her crying and found her. It could have ended much worse for her. So even if the woman's actions didn't end up with a dead cat, she certainly endangered the cat. That itself is a crime. I have to agree with Cheryl that death threats aren't appropriate, but I certainly understand the anger. Joyce Sad to say, making death threats is almost a hobby for some people these days. Death threats are not appropriate, of course, but I would certainly like her punished in some way. I'm not sure that under UK law as it stands that anyone can do anything about it in any sort of legal way. It does not seem to be a crime, but maybe if the police were pushed a lot about it, they might find something to pin on her, in some obscure act of the law. For example, it is still (apparently) dodgy here to go out without money in your pocket (Vagrancy Act from god knows when, never repealed) When I used to take my elderly neighbour out she always insisted on putting some coins in her pocket. Tweed I fully expect that woman to become a pariah in her neighborhood. Would you want to associate with her? Would you want to admit that you even knew her? I can safely predict a lonely future for the stupid skank. Pam S. |
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Woman puts kitten in bin - it's ok it's not hurt!
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... MatSav wrote: wrote in message ... ... What's CCTV, by the way? Is it a security camera installed on private property? Closed Circuit TeleVision - a local circuit of cameras, monitors, and recording equipment that doesn't "broadcast" - that is, it's in a closed circuit, and images can't be seen by anyone who doesn't have access to the circuit of cables (or wireless network). Yeah, I figured that's what it stood for. I've seen it mostly in office buildings. I was just wondering whether it was on private property or was some kind of public security (ie, spying) system installed by local government. I found out the answer in a subsequent article on the incident - this camera was on the property of the people where the cat lives. Joyce And thank Bast they had it! Otherwise that woman would never have been caught. Jill |
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