OT - totally - but deeply thought-provoking

http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/

It's the story of a motorcycle ride through Chernobyl.

Cheers, helen s



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I went all the way to the end. Am now nauseous. Most disturbing thing I've
seen in years. Not Chernobyl, this young female exploring it, noting
geiger-counter readings, believing as evidently others do that radiation on
this scale can be "washed off chemically" (I don't care if her father was a
Nobel prize winner; the 1/2 life, for example, of say, nuclear isotope
radium is 50 years). I sincerely pray that she has no plans to reproduce as
the job she's done on her cells w/ ionizing radiation is irreversible. Did
you know that pilots do not even fly over that area, as at least one
developed fatal leukemia after doing so? Nuclear reactor
radiation is something you can't even compare to "being x-ray'd medically".
(Barf).



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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:45:09 -0500, "Hopitus2"
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I went all the way to the end. Am now nauseous. Most disturbing
thing I've seen in years. Not Chernobyl, this young female exploring
it, noting geiger-counter readings, believing as evidently others do
that radiation on this scale can be "washed off chemically" (I don't
care if her father was a Nobel prize winner; the 1/2 life, for
example, of say, nuclear isotope radium is 50 years). I sincerely
pray that she has no plans to reproduce as the job she's done on her
cells w/ ionizing radiation is irreversible. Did you know that
pilots do not even fly over that area, as at least one developed
fatal leukemia after doing so? Nuclear reactor
radiation is something you can't even compare to "being x-ray'd
medically". (Barf).



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: It's the story of a motorcycle ride through Chernobyl.
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: Cheers, helen s

What is particularly scary is that she apparently rides through the
contaminated area on a regular basis, not just a single trip. She
talks about how most of the people who moved back into the area
have died, presumably many of them from radiation-related causes, but
doesn't seem to realize that each trip through is adding to her own
exposure. She mentions that the radiation readings are higher
alongside the road than they are in the center of the road, but
apparently doesn't realize that this is due to radioactive dust
having been washed off the road by rainfall. Chemical showers will
remove surface contamination, but won't do anything about inhaled
dust. She has probably taken years off of her life expectancy by
now.

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She mentions that the radiation readings are higher
alongside the road than they are in the center of the road, but
apparently doesn't realize that this is due to radioactive dust
having been washed off the road by rainfall.

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I wondered about that!!! I had no idea how to google that question
though. But I wondered how she thought just a matter of six feet on
either side (more or less) can make that much difference. It sounds like
the juvenile game of trying to avoid surface cracks on sidewalks...

Grace

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"John F. Eldredge" wrote in message

She mentions that the radiation readings are higher
alongside the road than they are in the center of the road, but
apparently doesn't realize that this is due to radioactive dust
having been washed off the road by rainfall.

I wondered about that!!! I had no idea how to google that question
though. But I wondered how she thought just a matter of six feet on
either side (more or less) can make that much difference. It sounds
like the juvenile game of trying to avoid surface cracks on
sidewalks...

I'm not a nuclear physicist, but since the contamination was in the
form of dust and smoke, it makes sense that it would wash off of
relatively smooth surfaces, and remain behind on more irregular
surfaces, such as grass and gravel. She mentioned how porous
surfaces, such as wood, had soaked up and retained the radiation.

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Uh, if I may say so.....one can't "google" enough 411 on this subject (which
I had to study for 2 years in depth before being able to practice[yes, we
"practice", and so do nurses] my profession) to get an impression of the
full enormity of this young Russian woman's actions on her very life quality
and/or expectancy. John knows what he's talking about, too. Death by
radiation overdose is not a great way to go. The only book I ever read that
gives you the description of it (similar to the gruesome details in my x-ray
study textbooks) was "On the Beach" (book, not the movie, which was tame and
more involved with love factors). Kinda similar to microwave action: being
"cooked" from the inside to the outside....


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It's the story of a motorcycle ride through Chernobyl.

Cheers, helen s

OMG, I was going to post that yesterday but it got too late by the time I
was finished reading it and I ended up going to bed. It is a fascinating
account, stark, eerie and sobering.
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Hopitus2 wrote:
Uh, if I may say so.....one can't "google" enough 411 on this subject (which
I had to study for 2 years in depth before being able to practice[yes, we
"practice", and so do nurses] my profession) to get an impression of the
full enormity of this young Russian woman's actions on her very life quality
and/or expectancy. John knows what he's talking about, too. Death by
radiation overdose is not a great way to go. The only book I ever read that
gives you the description of it (similar to the gruesome details in my x-ray
study textbooks) was "On the Beach" (book, not the movie, which was tame and
more involved with love factors). Kinda similar to microwave action: being
"cooked" from the inside to the outside....

I have the DVD for the movie "K-19", if you haven't seen it rent it, it's a
very good movie. The basic plot is: First Soviet atomic sub is rushed
through production. During sea trials one of the reactors develops a leak
and starts to head for melt-down. Some of the crew go into the reactor
core room to attempt repair, the do not have radiation protection gear.

In the interview and making of sections on the DVD they talk about the lack
of information about the results of high doses of radiation. Hardly any of
the texts on the subject even have pictures; this includes the records from
the bombs dropped in Japan. The thoughts were that pictures, even stills
in a medical texts, would just be too over the top.

--
Edward M. Markowski

Hopitus2 wrote:

The only book I ever read that gives you the description of it ...
was "On the Beach" (book, not the movie

Oh, yes, I remember that. I read that book when I was about 15, and it
sure made an impression on me. Ugh.

Joyce

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http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/

It's the story of a motorcycle ride through Chernobyl.

very interesting - and scary!
what makes her do that trip, and repeating it!?
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