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Fluff going for X-rays
On Apr 7, 6:08*pm, "Christina Websell"
wrote: "Will in New Haven" wrote in ... On Apr 7, 1:14 pm, "Christina Websell" wrote: "Marina" wrote in message My friend got an Airedale that was given to a local police department but they offered her to Bruce because a: don't take puppies and train them; they take grown dogs that are harder to train b: don't think Airedales are "enough dog." If an Airedale isn't enough dog, send a couple of men with guns. Airedales are certainly enough dog but they are not suited for police work. They are terriers and far too disobedient to accept being a police dog. *It would mean doing what they are told. * Terriers do not like that. German police forces disagreed for many years, choosing Airedales over other dogs, including Shepherds. The switch to bigger dogs was ostensibly based on the size difference, not the Terrier-nature of Airedales. At least one German trainer said that the switch to German Shepherds was at least partly motivated by nationalism. On the other paw, the Airedales I have worked with meet your description. You can train them to do anything but it's always a game. I have seen an Airedale fight with his tail wagging and a smile on his face, when you could see his face. And his very serious, very large Boxer opponent was in horrible trouble until we broke them up. The next day Red was willing to make friends and, after awhile, so was the Boxer. -- Will in New Haven |
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Fluff going for X-rays
"Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "Will in New Haven" wrote in message ... On Apr 7, 1:14 pm, "Christina Websell" wrote: "Marina" wrote in message My friend got an Airedale that was given to a local police department but they offered her to Bruce because a: don't take puppies and train them; they take grown dogs that are harder to train b: don't think Airedales are "enough dog." If an Airedale isn't enough dog, send a couple of men with guns. Airedales are certainly enough dog but they are not suited for police work. They are terriers and far too disobedient to accept being a police dog. It would mean doing what they are told. Terriers do not like that. Tweed You put a smile on my face. Remembering a little wire haired terrier named Teddy I knew as a child. He was adorable, but he was also a real brat. Jo |
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Fluff going for X-rays
"Yowie" wrote in message ... The Fluffster has started limping and seems unwilling to bear much weight on her left hind paw. I couldn't find anything wrong, so off we went on a lovely car ride so she could meet some more really friendly happy people at her favourite place, the vet (she is *so* not a cat!). They couldn't find much wrong either, except that she has somewhat reduced movement in her hips (its not bad though). She's going under tomorrow so they can take x-rays. She's currently pleading with her big doggy eyes to have her 10pm dinner, having entirely forgotten she had it at 7pm instead do she'll have a empty stomach for the anaesthetic. Purrs for a good solution for the Fluffster. -- Theresa and Dante Stinky Forever: http://pets.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh |
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Fluff going for X-rays
Kayla sends lots of tail wags and BC grins and 'I didn't mean to break
that' expressions. She hopes it helps Fluff to feel better. Jake and Molly will purr in private, as long as we promise not to tell Kayla. Jo "Yowie" wrote in message ... The Fluffster has started limping and seems unwilling to bear much weight on her left hind paw. I couldn't find anything wrong, so off we went on a lovely car ride so she could meet some more really friendly happy people at her favourite place, the vet (she is *so* not a cat!). They couldn't find much wrong either, except that she has somewhat reduced movement in her hips (its not bad though). She's going under tomorrow so they can take x-rays. She's currently pleading with her big doggy eyes to have her 10pm dinner, having entirely forgotten she had it at 7pm instead do she'll have a empty stomach for the anaesthetic. The likely suspect is arthritis, especially since its getting cooler around these parts and she's a senior doggy that refuses to use her kennel and therefore sleeps on the ground, silly dog (the kennel is unchanged, AFAICT). There are many and various treatments and I hope they aren't going to be fearfully expensive. Her eyes are bright and she's still got that stupid doggy grin, so I don't think its time yet. Still, a few purrs, prayers wags and whatever wouldn't go astray at this point. May it be easily dealt with, whatever they find. Yowie -- If you're paddling upstream in a canoe and a wheel falls off, how many pancakes can you fit in a doghouse? None, icecream doesn't have bones. |
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Yowie wrote:
"Joy" wrote in message "Yowie" wrote in message ... The Fluffster has started limping and seems unwilling to bear much weight on her left hind paw. I couldn't find anything wrong, so off we went on a lovely car ride so she could meet some more really friendly happy people at her favourite place, the vet (she is *so* not a cat!). They couldn't find much wrong either, except that she has somewhat reduced movement in her hips (its not bad though). She's going under tomorrow so they can take x-rays. She's currently pleading with her big doggy eyes to have her 10pm dinner, having entirely forgotten she had it at 7pm instead do she'll have a empty stomach for the anaesthetic. The likely suspect is arthritis, especially since its getting cooler around these parts and she's a senior doggy that refuses to use her kennel and therefore sleeps on the ground, silly dog (the kennel is unchanged, AFAICT). There are many and various treatments and I hope they aren't going to be fearfully expensive. Her eyes are bright and she's still got that stupid doggy grin, so I don't think its time yet. Still, a few purrs, prayers wags and whatever wouldn't go astray at this point. May it be easily dealt with, whatever they find. Yowie Purrs for Fluffy, and for you. I remember that I thought she was a love when I met her. How old is she? The Floober is 11 in human years. A more gentle and patient dog I could not have asked for. She has not snapped once at The Yowlet, and has only gone so far as actually growl at him on less than a handful of occasions, all entirely deserved. She is also exceedingly tolerant of cats, even when the cats are not so tolerant of her, but being part border collie *will* start chasing them if they run away. She thinks its a game of course, and doens't mean anything by it, but it does make it hard to take her for walks sometimes. If the cat is sensible and instead walks up to say hello, Fluffy is the perfect lady and tries to follow catly protocol (never realising he tail is swishing madly in delight!). She even allowed her ears to be washed by Suki the other other day, bless her. She has a very similar 'feel' about her as Tish's mother's now RB dog, Bongo. We think perhaps they shared a brain cell, both dogs being so lovablely gormless. Yowie How long has she limped? Have you given nature a chance to heal with an assist from pain medication. Nature can do wonders if given a chance. Just wondering? MLB |
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Yowie wrote:
The Fluffster has started limping and seems unwilling to bear much weight on her left hind paw. I couldn't find anything wrong, so off we went on a lovely car ride so she could meet some more really friendly happy people at her favourite place, the vet (she is *so* not a cat!). They couldn't find much wrong either, except that she has somewhat reduced movement in her hips (its not bad though). She's going under tomorrow so they can take x-rays. She's currently pleading with her big doggy eyes to have her 10pm dinner, having entirely forgotten she had it at 7pm instead do she'll have a empty stomach for the anaesthetic. The likely suspect is arthritis, especially since its getting cooler around these parts and she's a senior doggy that refuses to use her kennel and therefore sleeps on the ground, silly dog (the kennel is unchanged, AFAICT). There are many and various treatments and I hope they aren't going to be fearfully expensive. Her eyes are bright and she's still got that stupid doggy grin, so I don't think its time yet. Still, a few purrs, prayers wags and whatever wouldn't go astray at this point. May it be easily dealt with, whatever they find. Yowie Am asking the owners to add Fluffy to their purrs for your knee to be all better soon. Am also sending lots of healing thoughts and wishes for both you and Fluffy's hind legs. Pam S |
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"MLB" wrote in message
Yowie wrote: "Joy" wrote in message "Yowie" wrote in message ... The Fluffster has started limping and seems unwilling to bear much weight on her left hind paw. I couldn't find anything wrong, so off we went on a lovely car ride so she could meet some more really friendly happy people at her favourite place, the vet (she is *so* not a cat!). They couldn't find much wrong either, except that she has somewhat reduced movement in her hips (its not bad though). She's going under tomorrow so they can take x-rays. She's currently pleading with her big doggy eyes to have her 10pm dinner, having entirely forgotten she had it at 7pm instead do she'll have a empty stomach for the anaesthetic. The likely suspect is arthritis, especially since its getting cooler around these parts and she's a senior doggy that refuses to use her kennel and therefore sleeps on the ground, silly dog (the kennel is unchanged, AFAICT). There are many and various treatments and I hope they aren't going to be fearfully expensive. Her eyes are bright and she's still got that stupid doggy grin, so I don't think its time yet. Still, a few purrs, prayers wags and whatever wouldn't go astray at this point. May it be easily dealt with, whatever they find. Yowie Purrs for Fluffy, and for you. I remember that I thought she was a love when I met her. How old is she? The Floober is 11 in human years. A more gentle and patient dog I could not have asked for. She has not snapped once at The Yowlet, and has only gone so far as actually growl at him on less than a handful of occasions, all entirely deserved. She is also exceedingly tolerant of cats, even when the cats are not so tolerant of her, but being part border collie *will* start chasing them if they run away. She thinks its a game of course, and doens't mean anything by it, but it does make it hard to take her for walks sometimes. If the cat is sensible and instead walks up to say hello, Fluffy is the perfect lady and tries to follow catly protocol (never realising he tail is swishing madly in delight!). She even allowed her ears to be washed by Suki the other other day, bless her. She has a very similar 'feel' about her as Tish's mother's now RB dog, Bongo. We think perhaps they shared a brain cell, both dogs being so lovablely gormless. Yowie How long has she limped? Have you given nature a chance to heal with an assist from pain medication. Nature can do wonders if given a chance. Just wondering? MLB She's been limping for about a week and occasionally lets out little 'yips' of pain when she turns the wrong way. You can see that her knee is wobbly when she has to use her lame leg for stabilisation. We are still mystified as to how she did it. She's totally ripped the cruciate ligament. Appranlty these things don't get beter by nature and whilst the joint will stablise eventually it stablises via arthritis, which will cause more problems and pain in the long run - both in the lame leg and in the other that will have to bear the weight. The websites I have read plus the vet's advice gives me the impression its not really an 'optional' surgery for her - she needs it or she'll get worse. The gamble, as always, is how much to spend versus how many years she has left. Since she has otherwise shown herself to be a healthy dog both in terms of bones and blood, I'm gambling that this op will give her several more healthy and happy years yet and that and our money will not be wasted. Yowie -- If you're paddling upstream in a canoe and a wheel falls off, how many pancakes can you fit in a doghouse? None, icecream doesn't have bones. |
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"Will in New Haven" wrote in message ... On Apr 7, 6:08 pm, "Christina Websell" wrote: "Will in New Haven" wrote in ... On Apr 7, 1:14 pm, "Christina Websell" wrote: "Marina" wrote in message My friend got an Airedale that was given to a local police department but they offered her to Bruce because a: don't take puppies and train them; they take grown dogs that are harder to train b: don't think Airedales are "enough dog." If an Airedale isn't enough dog, send a couple of men with guns. Airedales are certainly enough dog but they are not suited for police work. They are terriers and far too disobedient to accept being a police dog. It would mean doing what they are told. Terriers do not like that. German police forces disagreed for many years, choosing Airedales over other dogs, including Shepherds. The switch to bigger dogs was ostensibly based on the size difference, not the Terrier-nature of Airedales. At least one German trainer said that the switch to German Shepherds was at least partly motivated by nationalism. ______________ Perhaps it was, but then they found German Shepherds more trainable maybe. All dogs that are classified in the Working Group by the KC are more trainable than most terriers. Notice I say *most* Terriers are extremely "hot-headed" and lose their temper easily, which is great for the work they are supposed to do which is vermin killing. I still do not think they are suited to police work. Your view may differ. On the other paw, the Airedales I have worked with meet your description. You can train them to do anything but it's always a game. I have seen an Airedale fight with his tail wagging and a smile on his face, when you could see his face. They are awful fighters. Plus they do so like to kill cats. They are attractive dogs to look at but I would never have one. I am getting a rat hunt on Sunday and I will need to keep my cats in overnight when the terriers come until they are gone, otherwise that would be the end of them. They are Patterdale terriers and will literally kill anything they can catch, including a cat. I have no problem with keeping them in when a rat hunt is due. The terriers are so brave, they do not mind grabbing a very large rat and when it sinks it's teeth into their nose they do not let go but kill it anyway. Their nose is then bleeding and I put antiseptic on it which they insist they don't want and to let them at another big one. You have to admire them. Boyfie will catch the little ones that are not much bigger than a large mouse. When they get up to biggies with huge orange teeth he says "Oh. get real.." and retires to the duvet. Tweed |
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On Apr 9, 5:10*pm, "Christina Websell"
wrote: "Will in New Haven" wrote in ... On Apr 7, 6:08 pm, "Christina Websell" wrote: "Will in New Haven" wrote in ... On Apr 7, 1:14 pm, "Christina Websell" wrote: "Marina" wrote in message My friend got an Airedale that was given to a local police department but they offered her to Bruce because a: don't take puppies and train them; they take grown dogs that are harder to train b: don't think Airedales are "enough dog." If an Airedale isn't enough dog, send a couple of men with guns. Airedales are certainly enough dog but they are not suited for police work. They are terriers and far too disobedient to accept being a police dog. It would mean doing what they are told. Terriers do not like that. German police forces disagreed for many years, choosing Airedales over other dogs, including Shepherds. The switch to bigger dogs was ostensibly based on the size difference, not the Terrier-nature of Airedales. At least one German trainer said that the switch to German Shepherds was at least partly motivated by nationalism. ______________ Perhaps it was, but then they found German Shepherds more trainable maybe.. All dogs that are classified in the Working Group by the KC are more trainable than most terriers. *Notice I say *most* Terriers are extremely "hot-headed" and lose their temper easily, which is great for the work they are supposed to do which is vermin killing. * I still do not think they are suited to police work. *Your view may differ. |
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "Will in New Haven" wrote in message ... On Apr 7, 6:08 pm, "Christina Websell" wrote: "Will in New Haven" wrote in ... On Apr 7, 1:14 pm, "Christina Websell" wrote: "Marina" wrote in message My friend got an Airedale that was given to a local police department but they offered her to Bruce because a: don't take puppies and train them; they take grown dogs that are harder to train b: don't think Airedales are "enough dog." If an Airedale isn't enough dog, send a couple of men with guns. Airedales are certainly enough dog but they are not suited for police work. They are terriers and far too disobedient to accept being a police dog. It would mean doing what they are told. Terriers do not like that. German police forces disagreed for many years, choosing Airedales over other dogs, including Shepherds. The switch to bigger dogs was ostensibly based on the size difference, not the Terrier-nature of Airedales. At least one German trainer said that the switch to German Shepherds was at least partly motivated by nationalism. ______________ Perhaps it was, but then they found German Shepherds more trainable maybe. All dogs that are classified in the Working Group by the KC are more trainable than most terriers. Notice I say *most* Terriers are extremely "hot-headed" and lose their temper easily, which is great for the work they are supposed to do which is vermin killing. I still do not think they are suited to police work. Your view may differ. On the other paw, the Airedales I have worked with meet your description. You can train them to do anything but it's always a game. I have seen an Airedale fight with his tail wagging and a smile on his face, when you could see his face. They are awful fighters. Plus they do so like to kill cats. They are attractive dogs to look at but I would never have one. I am getting a rat hunt on Sunday and I will need to keep my cats in overnight when the terriers come until they are gone, otherwise that would be the end of them. They are Patterdale terriers and will literally kill anything they can catch, including a cat. I have no problem with keeping them in when a rat hunt is due. The terriers are so brave, they do not mind grabbing a very large rat and when it sinks it's teeth into their nose they do not let go but kill it anyway. Their nose is then bleeding and I put antiseptic on it which they insist they don't want and to let them at another big one. You have to admire them. Boyfie will catch the little ones that are not much bigger than a large mouse. When they get up to biggies with huge orange teeth he says "Oh. get real.." and retires to the duvet. Tweed I wish Molly would follow his example. The one I had to dispose of a few days ago (because if was grossing Charlie out) had a four inch tail. Estimated, Pam, not measured. Jo |
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