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enlightened us with... Ah, but: The behavior, walking normally, is INCREASING because of a negative stimulus... TBH, I think Megan's more correct in her interpretation here. The example is analogous to the usual spiel of a rat needing to press a button to eliminate continual electric shocks. Steve. Even if I conceeded that it is indeed an example of negative reinforcement (which I can see both sides of this argument, certainly, but don't quite agree with it as a good example), it contradicts the post that made me reply in the first place. The example of the rat pressing a button is much clearer (much less ambiguous) and the example I see most often. Quote:
don't make a dog afraid or in pain in the least. Having had dogs and having used choke chains, I can attest that my dogs are certainly not afraid or in pain. Nor do they pull. Nor are the millions of dogs trained that way fearful or in pain. -- -- ~kaeli~ Punctuation, capitalization, and grammar are your friends, and will help people think that you aren't such an ignorant moron, after all. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace |
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Laura R. wrote:
circa Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:36:52 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, gertrude ) said, Understand that if you have a farm like mine in Kentucky with 22 cats then you handle them differently than one does if only a single cat is kept in a NYC apartment. It's just not the same. BTW, you might want to look at the link in Megan's signature- this one: http://www.picturetrail.com/zuzu22 Don't forget to count while you're perusing... I'd like to add that Megan has been a tremendous source of help to me in learning how to monitor and care for my diabetic cat (diagnosed in January). My vet didn't think home testing was necessary, and wanted me to just shoot him up with insulin twice a day. But I started testing him the day after he came home, and he stays in normal ranges on the new diet without insulin. He might have died if I'd just kept injecting him without testing. -- jamie ) "There's a seeker born every minute." |
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Laura R. wrote:
circa Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:36:52 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, gertrude ) said, Understand that if you have a farm like mine in Kentucky with 22 cats then you handle them differently than one does if only a single cat is kept in a NYC apartment. It's just not the same. BTW, you might want to look at the link in Megan's signature- this one: http://www.picturetrail.com/zuzu22 Don't forget to count while you're perusing... I'd like to add that Megan has been a tremendous source of help to me in learning how to monitor and care for my diabetic cat (diagnosed in January). My vet didn't think home testing was necessary, and wanted me to just shoot him up with insulin twice a day. But I started testing him the day after he came home, and he stays in normal ranges on the new diet without insulin. He might have died if I'd just kept injecting him without testing. -- jamie ) "There's a seeker born every minute." |
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Laura R. wrote:
circa Sun, 13 Jun 2004 02:36:52 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, gertrude ) said, Understand that if you have a farm like mine in Kentucky with 22 cats then you handle them differently than one does if only a single cat is kept in a NYC apartment. It's just not the same. BTW, you might want to look at the link in Megan's signature- this one: http://www.picturetrail.com/zuzu22 Don't forget to count while you're perusing... I'd like to add that Megan has been a tremendous source of help to me in learning how to monitor and care for my diabetic cat (diagnosed in January). My vet didn't think home testing was necessary, and wanted me to just shoot him up with insulin twice a day. But I started testing him the day after he came home, and he stays in normal ranges on the new diet without insulin. He might have died if I'd just kept injecting him without testing. -- jamie ) "There's a seeker born every minute." |
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