are any of the spot on flea controls really safe?

hi
i was looking for articles on flea control spot on's and i found what i
think is a really good article and thought i would share it and i was
wondering if it was fairly accurate or not
for the acrobat file
http://www.apnm.org/publications/res...leachemfin.pdf
or
for the html file
http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache...ng_en&ie=UTF-8

it pretty much says that all spot on's are not safe, even the ones you get
from the vet, it was talking about dogs in the intro and it was in a dog
magazine though so i don't know if its was for all of them or what. but it
pretty much tells you what is in the spot on's and what the results were
found in the lab test, and it says that fipronil and imidacloprid isn't any
better than methoprene and permethrin.

also according to 188petmeds.com the following medicatins contain what is
listed after them

frontline plus for cats contains Fipronil (9.8%), S-methoprene (11.8%),
Inert ingredients (78.4%)

frontline top spot Fipronil (9.7%), Inert ingredients (90.3%)

advantage Imidacloprid (9.1%), Inert ingredients (90.9%)

bio spot stripe-on flea control for cats Pyripoxyfen (5.3%), Inert
ingredients (94.7%)

and according to the article zodiac contains 45% permethrin, 3% methoprene,
52% not disclosed

and according to the article advantage has the same % of those things but
the MSDS sheet indicates there may be some solvents in it

also according to the article frontline plus is basically the same thing as
frontline top spot but it has 8.8% methoprene

and if you go to that article it tells you what they do,

so i awas just wondering if any of them are really safe to use, or are there
ones that are safer than others, becasue according to the article it scares
me even to use the ones you get from the vet

when i wrote

and according to the article advantage has the same % of those things but
the MSDS sheet indicates there may be some solvents in it

i meant that the percentages that the petmeds states are what the article
states as well, but the article also says that there may be solvents in
there as well
and not that it had the same % of ingredients that zodiac has
"Lauralai" wrote in message
...
hi
i was looking for articles on flea control spot on's and i found what i
think is a really good article and thought i would share it and i was
wondering if it was fairly accurate or not
for the acrobat file
http://www.apnm.org/publications/res...leachemfin.pdf
or
for the html file

http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache...ng_en&ie=UTF-8

it pretty much says that all spot on's are not safe, even the ones you get
from the vet, it was talking about dogs in the intro and it was in a dog
magazine though so i don't know if its was for all of them or what. but
it
pretty much tells you what is in the spot on's and what the results were
found in the lab test, and it says that fipronil and imidacloprid isn't
any
better than methoprene and permethrin.

also according to 188petmeds.com the following medicatins contain what is
listed after them

frontline plus for cats contains Fipronil (9.8%), S-methoprene (11.8%),
Inert ingredients (78.4%)

frontline top spot Fipronil (9.7%), Inert ingredients (90.3%)

advantage Imidacloprid (9.1%), Inert ingredients (90.9%)

bio spot stripe-on flea control for cats Pyripoxyfen (5.3%), Inert
ingredients (94.7%)

and according to the article zodiac contains 45% permethrin, 3%
methoprene,
52% not disclosed

and according to the article advantage has the same % of those things but
the MSDS sheet indicates there may be some solvents in it

also according to the article frontline plus is basically the same thing
as
frontline top spot but it has 8.8% methoprene

and if you go to that article it tells you what they do,

so i awas just wondering if any of them are really safe to use, or are
there
ones that are safer than others, becasue according to the article it
scares
me even to use the ones you get from the vet

when i wrote

and according to the article advantage has the same % of those things but
the MSDS sheet indicates there may be some solvents in it

i meant that the percentages that the petmeds states are what the article
states as well, but the article also says that there may be solvents in
there as well
and not that it had the same % of ingredients that zodiac has
"Lauralai" wrote in message
...
hi
i was looking for articles on flea control spot on's and i found what i
think is a really good article and thought i would share it and i was
wondering if it was fairly accurate or not
for the acrobat file
http://www.apnm.org/publications/res...leachemfin.pdf
or
for the html file

http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache...ng_en&ie=UTF-8

it pretty much says that all spot on's are not safe, even the ones you get
from the vet, it was talking about dogs in the intro and it was in a dog
magazine though so i don't know if its was for all of them or what. but
it
pretty much tells you what is in the spot on's and what the results were
found in the lab test, and it says that fipronil and imidacloprid isn't
any
better than methoprene and permethrin.

also according to 188petmeds.com the following medicatins contain what is
listed after them

frontline plus for cats contains Fipronil (9.8%), S-methoprene (11.8%),
Inert ingredients (78.4%)

frontline top spot Fipronil (9.7%), Inert ingredients (90.3%)

advantage Imidacloprid (9.1%), Inert ingredients (90.9%)

bio spot stripe-on flea control for cats Pyripoxyfen (5.3%), Inert
ingredients (94.7%)

and according to the article zodiac contains 45% permethrin, 3%
methoprene,
52% not disclosed

and according to the article advantage has the same % of those things but
the MSDS sheet indicates there may be some solvents in it

also according to the article frontline plus is basically the same thing
as
frontline top spot but it has 8.8% methoprene

and if you go to that article it tells you what they do,

so i awas just wondering if any of them are really safe to use, or are
there
ones that are safer than others, becasue according to the article it
scares
me even to use the ones you get from the vet

when i wrote

and according to the article advantage has the same % of those things but
the MSDS sheet indicates there may be some solvents in it

i meant that the percentages that the petmeds states are what the article
states as well, but the article also says that there may be solvents in
there as well
and not that it had the same % of ingredients that zodiac has
"Lauralai" wrote in message
...
hi
i was looking for articles on flea control spot on's and i found what i
think is a really good article and thought i would share it and i was
wondering if it was fairly accurate or not
for the acrobat file
http://www.apnm.org/publications/res...leachemfin.pdf
or
for the html file

http://216.239.41.104/search?q=cache...ng_en&ie=UTF-8

it pretty much says that all spot on's are not safe, even the ones you get
from the vet, it was talking about dogs in the intro and it was in a dog
magazine though so i don't know if its was for all of them or what. but
it
pretty much tells you what is in the spot on's and what the results were
found in the lab test, and it says that fipronil and imidacloprid isn't
any
better than methoprene and permethrin.

also according to 188petmeds.com the following medicatins contain what is
listed after them

frontline plus for cats contains Fipronil (9.8%), S-methoprene (11.8%),
Inert ingredients (78.4%)

frontline top spot Fipronil (9.7%), Inert ingredients (90.3%)

advantage Imidacloprid (9.1%), Inert ingredients (90.9%)

bio spot stripe-on flea control for cats Pyripoxyfen (5.3%), Inert
ingredients (94.7%)

and according to the article zodiac contains 45% permethrin, 3%
methoprene,
52% not disclosed

and according to the article advantage has the same % of those things but
the MSDS sheet indicates there may be some solvents in it

also according to the article frontline plus is basically the same thing
as
frontline top spot but it has 8.8% methoprene

and if you go to that article it tells you what they do,

so i awas just wondering if any of them are really safe to use, or are
there
ones that are safer than others, becasue according to the article it
scares
me even to use the ones you get from the vet

it pretty much says that all spot on's are not safe, even the ones you get
from the vet, it was talking about dogs in the intro and it was in a dog
magazine though so i don't know if its was for all of them or what. but it
pretty much tells you what is in the spot on's and what the results were
found in the lab test, and it says that fipronil and imidacloprid isn't any
better than methoprene and permethrin.

Laureli, this is purely anecdotal, so you can take it with a grain of salt if
you like. But just strictly from the experience of my own friends, people I
visit with at the shelter, and reading the newsgroup, I've never heard of
anyone's cat having a life-threatening reaction to Advantage or Frontline.
That's certainly not so with the OTC meds; I've heard horror stories not only
about Hartz but others as well. I did have a cat who had an allergic reaction
to Frontline; he drooled, panted and behaved as if the spot was burning badly.
I washed it off and he was fine after. He didn't react at all to Advantage.
(Incidentally, the other cats did fine with Frontline, and that's what they use
at the shelter)

Sherry

it pretty much says that all spot on's are not safe, even the ones you get
from the vet, it was talking about dogs in the intro and it was in a dog
magazine though so i don't know if its was for all of them or what. but it
pretty much tells you what is in the spot on's and what the results were
found in the lab test, and it says that fipronil and imidacloprid isn't any
better than methoprene and permethrin.

Laureli, this is purely anecdotal, so you can take it with a grain of salt if
you like. But just strictly from the experience of my own friends, people I
visit with at the shelter, and reading the newsgroup, I've never heard of
anyone's cat having a life-threatening reaction to Advantage or Frontline.
That's certainly not so with the OTC meds; I've heard horror stories not only
about Hartz but others as well. I did have a cat who had an allergic reaction
to Frontline; he drooled, panted and behaved as if the spot was burning badly.
I washed it off and he was fine after. He didn't react at all to Advantage.
(Incidentally, the other cats did fine with Frontline, and that's what they use
at the shelter)

Sherry

it pretty much says that all spot on's are not safe, even the ones you get
from the vet, it was talking about dogs in the intro and it was in a dog
magazine though so i don't know if its was for all of them or what. but it
pretty much tells you what is in the spot on's and what the results were
found in the lab test, and it says that fipronil and imidacloprid isn't any
better than methoprene and permethrin.

Laureli, this is purely anecdotal, so you can take it with a grain of salt if
you like. But just strictly from the experience of my own friends, people I
visit with at the shelter, and reading the newsgroup, I've never heard of
anyone's cat having a life-threatening reaction to Advantage or Frontline.
That's certainly not so with the OTC meds; I've heard horror stories not only
about Hartz but others as well. I did have a cat who had an allergic reaction
to Frontline; he drooled, panted and behaved as if the spot was burning badly.
I washed it off and he was fine after. He didn't react at all to Advantage.
(Incidentally, the other cats did fine with Frontline, and that's what they use
at the shelter)

Sherry

itty (Sherry ) wrote:

Laureli, this is purely anecdotal, so you can take it with a grain of salt if
you like. But just strictly from the experience of my own friends, people I
visit with at the shelter, and reading the newsgroup, I've never heard of
anyone's cat having a life-threatening reaction to Advantage or Frontline.

And I didn't see anything about selamectin (Revolution) in the article. I've
done a lot of searches to find any potentially dangerous side effects of
selamectin, and have not found any.

That's certainly not so with the OTC meds; I've heard horror stories not only
about Hartz but others as well. I did have a cat who had an allergic reaction
to Frontline; he drooled, panted and behaved as if the spot was burning
badly.
I washed it off and he was fine after. He didn't react at all to Advantage.
(Incidentally, the other cats did fine with Frontline, and that's what they
use
at the shelter)

IMO, you have to weigh all the factors if you are worried about using spot-on
treatments. If any of our current cats had flea allergies to the degree that
one of my previous cats did, there would be no question that I would be using
the most effective flea treatment available, because the potential long-term
risk (very slight, IMO) would be greatly outweighed by the need to alleviate
the cat's misery.

We currently use Revolution not for fleas but for heartworm prevention. IMO the
risk of heartworm also outweighs whatever small risk there may be longterm of
using Revolution part of each year. Our cats have had no side effects, and it
had the added bonus of getting rid of the ear mites infecting the stray we took
in.

itty (Sherry ) wrote:

Laureli, this is purely anecdotal, so you can take it with a grain of salt if
you like. But just strictly from the experience of my own friends, people I
visit with at the shelter, and reading the newsgroup, I've never heard of
anyone's cat having a life-threatening reaction to Advantage or Frontline.

And I didn't see anything about selamectin (Revolution) in the article. I've
done a lot of searches to find any potentially dangerous side effects of
selamectin, and have not found any.

That's certainly not so with the OTC meds; I've heard horror stories not only
about Hartz but others as well. I did have a cat who had an allergic reaction
to Frontline; he drooled, panted and behaved as if the spot was burning
badly.
I washed it off and he was fine after. He didn't react at all to Advantage.
(Incidentally, the other cats did fine with Frontline, and that's what they
use
at the shelter)

IMO, you have to weigh all the factors if you are worried about using spot-on
treatments. If any of our current cats had flea allergies to the degree that
one of my previous cats did, there would be no question that I would be using
the most effective flea treatment available, because the potential long-term
risk (very slight, IMO) would be greatly outweighed by the need to alleviate
the cat's misery.

We currently use Revolution not for fleas but for heartworm prevention. IMO the
risk of heartworm also outweighs whatever small risk there may be longterm of
using Revolution part of each year. Our cats have had no side effects, and it
had the added bonus of getting rid of the ear mites infecting the stray we took
in.

itty (Sherry ) wrote:

Laureli, this is purely anecdotal, so you can take it with a grain of salt if
you like. But just strictly from the experience of my own friends, people I
visit with at the shelter, and reading the newsgroup, I've never heard of
anyone's cat having a life-threatening reaction to Advantage or Frontline.

And I didn't see anything about selamectin (Revolution) in the article. I've
done a lot of searches to find any potentially dangerous side effects of
selamectin, and have not found any.

That's certainly not so with the OTC meds; I've heard horror stories not only
about Hartz but others as well. I did have a cat who had an allergic reaction
to Frontline; he drooled, panted and behaved as if the spot was burning
badly.
I washed it off and he was fine after. He didn't react at all to Advantage.
(Incidentally, the other cats did fine with Frontline, and that's what they
use
at the shelter)

IMO, you have to weigh all the factors if you are worried about using spot-on
treatments. If any of our current cats had flea allergies to the degree that
one of my previous cats did, there would be no question that I would be using
the most effective flea treatment available, because the potential long-term
risk (very slight, IMO) would be greatly outweighed by the need to alleviate
the cat's misery.

We currently use Revolution not for fleas but for heartworm prevention. IMO the
risk of heartworm also outweighs whatever small risk there may be longterm of
using Revolution part of each year. Our cats have had no side effects, and it
had the added bonus of getting rid of the ear mites infecting the stray we took
in.