UPDATE: KFC

"Marina" wrote in message
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Christina Websell wrote:
Kitty is home, I just fetched her.
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It looks really nice food, Royal Canin Renal in pouches, little pieces in
gravy, smelled good enough to eat :-)
She has twelve pouches to try, if she won't eat it I can take it back for
a refund and try another flavour. If she won't eat the renal diet at
all, TED says he would rather have her eat what she wants than go without
food on hunger strike. She is still allowed to eat collared doves, which
I am sure will be a great relief to her.

I'm so sorry about the diagnosis, Tweed. During their last years, when
they were starting to show their age, Frank and Nikki got Waltham's renal
food every second day (and fresh meat the rest of the time). The Waltham
pouches are bits in gravy, as well. If KFC doesn't like the Royal Canin
food, maybe she'd like the Waltham?

It's the same, I think; it has Waltham on the pouch as well as Royal Canin.
Waltham is another trade name used by the giant pet food company Pedigree,
makers of Whiskas, etc. They have their factory in Melton Mowbray, about
12 miles from where I live, and a research establishment a few miles from
that near the small village of Waltham-on-the-Wolds, I guess that's where
the name came from.


F&N used to hoover it up.

Maybe Kitty was still a bit too unsettled to eat at first. After she had
used her litterbox and had a rest on the spare bed for an hour I put the
dish under her nose "dinner in bed, madam..?" She scarfed it down. I
always know when she particularly likes her meal because she purrs while
she's eating it, and she purred. Boyfie came upstairs to enquire why the
special treatment and what was she eating? He got firmly bopped :-)

Anyways, purrs for Kitty to have many more good years with you,

Thank you.

and purrs to you for the pillings. I don't envy you!

I'm rather dreading it. It will not be easy. If it proves impossible TED
says she can have injections instead which would mean taking her back to the
surgery every other day. I want to avoid that if I can, so I will try very
hard to get those tablets inside her myself.

Tweed

I'm rather dreading it. It will not be easy. If it proves impossible TED
says she can have injections instead which would mean taking her back to the
surgery every other day. I want to avoid that if I can, so I will try very
hard to get those tablets inside her myself.

Tweed

Would Pill Pockets work with KFC?
(http://healthypetscom.stores.yahoo.net/pillpockets.html)

Dan

"mlbriggs" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:07:41 +0100, Christina Websell wrote:


, If she won't eat the renal diet at all, TED
says he would rather have her eat what she wants than go without food on
hunger strike. She is still allowed to eat collared doves, which I am
sure
will be a great relief to her.

Tweed


We are glad to hear she will probably be alright. Regarding the doves:
How big are they

Size = small pigeon.

Does she eat feathers too?

Yes.

What about the bones?

Yes, she eats the bones, the legs, the head and beak, the tail feathers,
everything except the wings.

Do the doves carry any diseases?

Dunno ;-) not for much longer if Kitty eats them!
Birds are a natural diet for cats. Kitty has very clean teeth (the vet
remarked on them) no doubt due to chomping on bones, and no problem with
constipation (feathers.)

Excuse the questions, but I'd really
like to understand.

No problem.

There must be large flocks there if she gets one
every day.

She doesn't get one every day. She would like to though! It all depends on
Boyfriend's hunting skills now, whereas previously she used to catch her
own. Sometimes he will get her one two days on the trot and other times
he's not so lucky. She hasn't had one for about a week now.
There are plenty of collared doves here. They are vulnerable because they
cannot take off with enough lift in time to get them out of range of a cat
that can jump to catch them.
They breed all the year round here. 2 chicks every few weeks. Kitty
eating them on a regular basis has made no difference whatsover to their
population here.
If you'd like to see some British birds, including collared doves, have a
look he
http://www.overthegardengate.co.uk/w...ve/viewall.asp

Hope this helps.

Tweed

"Dan M" wrote in message
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I'm rather dreading it. It will not be easy. If it proves impossible
TED
says she can have injections instead which would mean taking her back to
the
surgery every other day. I want to avoid that if I can, so I will try
very
hard to get those tablets inside her myself.

Tweed

Would Pill Pockets work with KFC?
(http://healthypetscom.stores.yahoo.net/pillpockets.html)


What a nice thought Dan, but by the time I could get some the need would be
over. She has only a week's tablets, twice a day starting in the morning.
I'll just have to get up early to get my armour on!

Tweed

"Adrian A" wrote in message
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Christina Websell wrote:
Kitty is home, I just fetched her.

The diagnosis is CRF :-( with a touch of senility thrown in.
Her thyroid and liver are fine and she doesn't have a UTI. Her
white cells were a bit raised so she has antibiotics for a week. I'm
not looking forward to pilling her twice a day, that's for sure!
TED has put her on a renal diet, I hope she eats it. I shut her in
the bathroom with a dish of it and she's only eaten a bit although
she has not been fed today as she had to have a fasting blood test.
It looks really nice food, Royal Canin Renal in pouches, little
pieces in gravy, smelled good enough to eat :-)
She has twelve pouches to try, if she won't eat it I can take it back
for a refund and try another flavour. If she won't eat the renal
diet at all, TED says he would rather have her eat what she wants
than go without food on hunger strike. She is still allowed to eat
collared doves, which I am sure will be a great relief to her.

Tweed

I'm sorry to hear the diagnosis, purrs that the diet helps her. If BF
doesn't bring her collared doves, will you be catching them? ;-)

Nope! That's Boyfie's job.
I was rather expecting the diagnosis actually, sooner or later. It's
unrealistic to expect a cat to get to this advanced age without something
going seriously wrong.

Tweed

"Joy" wrote in message
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(((((((((Tweed and KFC))))))))))

Thanks, Joy. I intend to keep her comfortable for as long as is possible.

Tweed

wrote in message
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Christina Websell wrote:

Kitty is home, I just fetched her.
The diagnosis is CRF :-( with a touch of senility thrown in.

Oh, poor KFC! It's not bad for a cat to reach 20 before getting
this, but it's still bad, if you know what I mean. I'm sorry she's
not well.

I know she (and I) am lucky that she has lived a long life up to now. I
want to keep her a bit longer though.

If I may insert a bit of my own religion he did your vet also
recommend subcutaneous fluids? It's a *must-do* for cats with CRF.
As you might have read in some of my previous posts, I once kept a
cat alive and going strong for 5 years with CRF, by giving her
regular subq fluids. She was diagnosed at age 16 and lived to 21.
So just because KFC has been given this diagnosis, doesn't means
she's about to die.

TED discussed this with me too. She is not at the stage where she needs
them yet but he said if she deteriorates (gave me a list of symptoms to
look out for) then this is certainly something that is an option.

Also, even if she doesn't live a really long time (after this),
the fluids really will help her feel better for as long as she is
still living. It's kitty dialysis - it flushes out the toxins that
their kidneys are no longer able to do so well. It's wonderful to
see a cat perk up within a half hour or so of being given the fluids.

My mother's cat (also age 20) has CRF, and when I visited her for 2
weeks last winter, I administered his fluids. My mom wasn't doing such
a good job of keeping up with that. She couldn't believe how much
more energy he had after one treatment, and after a couple of times,
he was up and about, and perky like she hadn't seen him in months. I
was giving him 100 cc's once every 3 days. I sure hope my mom has
continued on that schedule - he'll live longer and happier.

I know it helps a lot of cats with CRF and I will consider it when the time
comes that Kitty needs it.

Licky waves hello to his girl, and hopes her new diet tastes good and
helps her feel better!

Kitty waves back and sez it were better dan she first fort, she has etten it
and she feels okay fangu my love

Tweed





Joyce

"Karen" wrote in message
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Well, she IS 20 or so, so she is actually doing very well. If you can keep
her comfy that is the big thing. I bet the antibiotics will help a little
at
least. Did the vet say if you can crush them into food at all?

Yes, I can. However I have to make sure she is scarfing up the new renal
diet happily and greedily before I dare put it in her food.

Tweed

Christina Websell wrote:

I know it helps a lot of cats with CRF and I will consider it when the time
comes that Kitty needs it.

Oh, it's good to hear she's not ill enough for that just yet.

Licky waves hello to his girl, and hopes her new diet tastes good and
helps her feel better!

Kitty waves back and sez it were better dan she first fort, she has etten it
and she feels okay fangu my love

Yay! Glad to hear she likes it!

Joyce

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:07:41 +0100, "Christina Websell"
yodeled:


Kitty is home, I just fetched her.

The diagnosis is CRF :-( with a touch of senility thrown in.
Her thyroid and liver are fine and she doesn't have a UTI. Her white cells
were a bit raised so she has antibiotics for a week. I'm not looking
forward to pilling her twice a day, that's for sure!
TED has put her on a renal diet, I hope she eats it. I shut her in the
bathroom with a dish of it and she's only eaten a bit although she has not
been fed today as she had to have a fasting blood test.
It looks really nice food, Royal Canin Renal in pouches, little pieces in
gravy, smelled good enough to eat :-)
She has twelve pouches to try, if she won't eat it I can take it back for a
refund and try another flavour. If she won't eat the renal diet at all, TED
says he would rather have her eat what she wants than go without food on
hunger strike. She is still allowed to eat collared doves, which I am sure
will be a great relief to her.

Tweed



Damn!! I was praying it wasn't CRF. Purring mightily that she
takes to the diet.





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