Stray Cats - Spay/Neuter or Euthanize

In , Mr B
wrote:

| The lady at the humane society said she frowns on [neutering
| strays/ferals and then releasing them] and recommend just having
| them euthanized so that they don't have to die a slow death later
| in life.
|
| WTF is up with that?

It's a policy advocated by some animal rights/welfare organizations,
such as The Fund For Animals and those publicity hound loonies, PETA.

| Should we just kill all stray animals so they don't have to eventually
| die?

Bryan Kortis, co-founder of Neighborhood Cats, answers that question,
and quite a few others, in this video:

http://www.madotv.com/video/cats.ram

(Also linked from http://www.neighborhoodcats.org )

Now that you know the policy of this Humane Society, you should avoid
revealing your true plans. That is, tell them that you will socialize
these cats and kittens and find homes for them. Get them fixed, treated
for pests and vaxed - that's the important thing right now.

I hope there are long term plans to keep these colony fed?

In , Mr B
wrote:

| The lady at the humane society said she frowns on [neutering
| strays/ferals and then releasing them] and recommend just having
| them euthanized so that they don't have to die a slow death later
| in life.
|
| WTF is up with that?

It's a policy advocated by some animal rights/welfare organizations,
such as The Fund For Animals and those publicity hound loonies, PETA.

| Should we just kill all stray animals so they don't have to eventually
| die?

Bryan Kortis, co-founder of Neighborhood Cats, answers that question,
and quite a few others, in this video:

http://www.madotv.com/video/cats.ram

(Also linked from http://www.neighborhoodcats.org )

Now that you know the policy of this Humane Society, you should avoid
revealing your true plans. That is, tell them that you will socialize
these cats and kittens and find homes for them. Get them fixed, treated
for pests and vaxed - that's the important thing right now.

I hope there are long term plans to keep these colony fed?

I think he summed it up pretty well in his 2 statements on the topic...

1) If you believe in Animal Rights, then there's nothing more fundamental than the right to live.
And who am I to decide that because these cats may eventually suffer that therefore I shoudl deprive
them of the life they have now.

2) These are often Wild Animals. There aren't that many squirrels that live to a healthy old age,
but we don't go around trapping and killing them in order to save them from suffering. And we have
to learn to looka t these cats in the same way.

That just disgusted me when I was told that on the phone. Nice thing for the Humane Society to have
a stance of killing cats. That's real humane of them....



On 12 Aug 2003 11:10:11 -0500, Arjun Ray wrote:

In , Mr B
wrote:

| The lady at the humane society said she frowns on [neutering
| strays/ferals and then releasing them] and recommend just having
| them euthanized so that they don't have to die a slow death later
| in life.
|
| WTF is up with that?

It's a policy advocated by some animal rights/welfare organizations,
such as The Fund For Animals and those publicity hound loonies, PETA.

| Should we just kill all stray animals so they don't have to eventually
| die?

Bryan Kortis, co-founder of Neighborhood Cats, answers that question,
and quite a few others, in this video:

http://www.madotv.com/video/cats.ram

(Also linked from http://www.neighborhoodcats.org )

Now that you know the policy of this Humane Society, you should avoid
revealing your true plans. That is, tell them that you will socialize
these cats and kittens and find homes for them. Get them fixed, treated
for pests and vaxed - that's the important thing right now.

I hope there are long term plans to keep these colony fed?

I think he summed it up pretty well in his 2 statements on the topic...

1) If you believe in Animal Rights, then there's nothing more fundamental than the right to live.
And who am I to decide that because these cats may eventually suffer that therefore I shoudl deprive
them of the life they have now.

2) These are often Wild Animals. There aren't that many squirrels that live to a healthy old age,
but we don't go around trapping and killing them in order to save them from suffering. And we have
to learn to looka t these cats in the same way.

That just disgusted me when I was told that on the phone. Nice thing for the Humane Society to have
a stance of killing cats. That's real humane of them....



On 12 Aug 2003 11:10:11 -0500, Arjun Ray wrote:

In , Mr B
wrote:

| The lady at the humane society said she frowns on [neutering
| strays/ferals and then releasing them] and recommend just having
| them euthanized so that they don't have to die a slow death later
| in life.
|
| WTF is up with that?

It's a policy advocated by some animal rights/welfare organizations,
such as The Fund For Animals and those publicity hound loonies, PETA.

| Should we just kill all stray animals so they don't have to eventually
| die?

Bryan Kortis, co-founder of Neighborhood Cats, answers that question,
and quite a few others, in this video:

http://www.madotv.com/video/cats.ram

(Also linked from http://www.neighborhoodcats.org )

Now that you know the policy of this Humane Society, you should avoid
revealing your true plans. That is, tell them that you will socialize
these cats and kittens and find homes for them. Get them fixed, treated
for pests and vaxed - that's the important thing right now.

I hope there are long term plans to keep these colony fed?

Liz wrote:
If you do not intend to feed them, there's
no need to spay/neuter them since food
availability and individual fitness will
determine who lives and who dies.

I *vehemently* disagree that there is "no need" to spay/neuer the cats
if there is no one at that particular location that will feed them.
Feral cats are very good at finding food sources, and allowing them to
breed "at all" is wrong. If they are not fixed, there WILL be MORE cats,
regardless of "natural selection" which is clearly NOT selecting enough
of them. If it was there wouldn't be a problem.

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray

Liz wrote:
If you do not intend to feed them, there's
no need to spay/neuter them since food
availability and individual fitness will
determine who lives and who dies.

I *vehemently* disagree that there is "no need" to spay/neuer the cats
if there is no one at that particular location that will feed them.
Feral cats are very good at finding food sources, and allowing them to
breed "at all" is wrong. If they are not fixed, there WILL be MORE cats,
regardless of "natural selection" which is clearly NOT selecting enough
of them. If it was there wouldn't be a problem.

Megan



"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do
nothing."

-Edmund Burke

Learn The TRUTH About Declawing
http://www.stopdeclaw.com

Zuzu's Cats Photo Album:
http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22

"Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one
elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and
splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then
providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision,
raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and
material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his
way."

- W.H. Murray

I *vehemently* disagree that there is "no need" to spay/neuer the cats
if there is no one at that particular location that will feed them.
Feral cats are very good at finding food sources, and allowing them to
breed "at all" is wrong. If they are not fixed, there WILL be MORE cats,
regardless of "natural selection" which is clearly NOT selecting enough
of them. If it was there wouldn't be a problem.

Megan

In part I agree with you. In a city, cats will always find someone who
will give them food. On the other hand, a city is a way more dangerous
place for a cat than the wild. But a person wanting to put down a
healthy animal to control its population is simply hideous.

I *vehemently* disagree that there is "no need" to spay/neuer the cats
if there is no one at that particular location that will feed them.
Feral cats are very good at finding food sources, and allowing them to
breed "at all" is wrong. If they are not fixed, there WILL be MORE cats,
regardless of "natural selection" which is clearly NOT selecting enough
of them. If it was there wouldn't be a problem.

Megan

In part I agree with you. In a city, cats will always find someone who
will give them food. On the other hand, a city is a way more dangerous
place for a cat than the wild. But a person wanting to put down a
healthy animal to control its population is simply hideous.