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Pet urns (kinda off topic)
"ingold1234[at]yahoo[dot]com (Gandalf)" wrote in message
... On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 17:09:43 -0400, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" wrote: Has anyone looked at urns for their dearly departed cats (or dogs)? OMG!! Talk about ripping you off when you're vulnerable!! I looked at some for $500.00!!!!!! I was tempted to call them and bitch them out for their stinkin' prices. I did settle on a walnut colored box that has a ceramic Basset Hound on top. There's a brass plate on the front for engraving. Even this one cost $125.00!! It's definitely worth it to me, and I'm glad I am able to afford it. I just can't believe these places and their prices. It's absolutely horrendous!!! ·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) Laurie ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- ((¸¸ ·.· *~*LiveLoveLaugh*~* All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother. ~Abraham Lincoln My Mother is 88 years old. It is her desire to be cremated, when the time comes. Since my Father was a WWII veteran, she is entitled to be buried in the local National Cemetery, with him. He died in 1980 She has already chosen a fairly plain wooden box for her 'cremains'. Since it will be buried, rather than displayed, it is a fairly plain, painted wooden box. I believe she said it cost about $20., when she bought it about 10 years ago. The funeral industry, even for pets, is as corrupt and greedy as any in the world. They try to take advantage of people who are extremely vulnerable, and perhaps not able to make good decisions. I handled a lot of my Father's arrangements, and one man repeatedly tried shoving documents in my face, in an attempt to get me to sign for expensive services. He would say 'I need you to sign these forms', and then would get upset when i insisted on reading them. I repeatedly took them from him, and tore them up, and threw them away. I tried to have him removed from the room, repeatedly, but it turned out he was the owner of the funeral home. So, the phrase 'Just shut the **** up, Shylock' was also repeatedly heard. I am under no obligation to be polite to money grubbing, lying ass****s, who are trying to exploit me, and my poor widowed Mother. Sometime about 5 years after my Father died, my state enacted new laws to try to 'protect' people from dishonest funeral directors. But, if they can get you to sign a legal document, by lying and saying it is for 'transport of the body', when it is REALLY for thousands of dollars of unwanted services, legally, you are bound to pay, unless you can prove in court, weeks or months later, that you were defrauded. Usually, it is only your word against theirs. My Father taught me NEVER to sign ANTHING, without reading it first. A valuable lesson that I'm glad I did not forget. I was extremely fortunate in that the local funeral home wasn't trying to talk us into anything when my father died. He (and my mother) are buried at the National cemetery. Mom picked out his funeral urn and when she died I got one that matched his. Green marble. Surprisingly, his funeral cost $4000 more than his. Of course he had the full military escort and 21 gun salute. When Persia dies she will be cremated and her ashes stored in a pewter urn on the mantle. I may decide later th bury her in said urn outside my bedroom window. Jill |
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Pet urns (kinda off topic)
"moonglow minnow" wrote in message
... In article , "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" wrote: Has anyone looked at urns for their dearly departed cats (or dogs)? OMG!! Talk about ripping you off when you're vulnerable!! I looked at some for $500.00!!!!!! I was tempted to call them and bitch them out for their stinkin' prices. I did settle on a walnut colored box that has a ceramic Basset Hound on top. There's a brass plate on the front for engraving. Even this one cost $125.00!! It's definitely worth it to me, and I'm glad I am able to afford it. I just can't believe these places and their prices. It's absolutely horrendous!!! At those kinds of prices you could probably commission a custom piece from a local ceramics artisan or woodworker and possibly have a one-of-a-kind. The trick, of course, is to find them, but they're definitely out there. ________ My main reason for just spending the money on the urn I bought on line is because when the vet calls to tell me that Hap's ashes are back, I want to get him, bring him home and put him to rest, so that he can REST. I didn't want to put his remains anywhere until I found a box, or a person that could make something. My sister-in-law offered to buy an urn for me, but my brother is out of town. She wanted to make sure he was okay with paying for one. As wonderful as that offer was, I didn't take it b/c I want the urn to get here ASAP. Right now, I have a framed photo of Hap on the pillow next to me. When I wake up in the middle of the night, I reach for it b/c I don't have anything of "him" around me. I just want to get that urn and his ashes and try to put some peace into his finally being 'home' again. (I hope I'm making sense here)!! ·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) Laurie ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- ((¸¸ ·.· *~*LiveLoveLaugh*~* All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother. ~Abraham Lincoln -- minnow ^..^ http://twitter.com/taheenahana http://www.flickr.com/photos/minnow/ |
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Pet urns (kinda off topic)
"moonglow minnow" wrote in message
... In article , "jmcquown" wrote: "Kelly Greene" wrote in message ... Those prices are an outrage. Why can't you use your own Urn? Have someone make one for you out of wood. You make it sound so easy. I don't know a wood carver or wood worker. I don't know a single person who could make an urn. If there are local non-chain art supply or craft stores, they may be able to refer you to artisans or art guilds with more information. Second-hand book shops may have information, as may independently owned and operated coffee shops or tea houses. Farmers' markets are out of season, but art and craft shows aren't. There may also be the option of having a tag custom engraved and attaching it to a small jewelry or keepsake box, which doesn't require knowing anyone at all - virtually every online store that sells tags will do custom engraving. -- minnow ^..^ http://twitter.com/taheenahana http://www.flickr.com/photos/minnow/ As it is I've ordered the pewter paw-print urn I posted the link for. Not that Persia is going to die any time soon (thank Bast she's fully recovered after the radioactive isotope therapy). But I figure it's best to be prepared. She's about 14 years old (best guess). There will be no need for engraving since she's the only cat I've ever had. It's not likely I'll forget whose ashes are in the urn. I also contacted her vet's office to find out about cremation services. They contract with a company called 'The Good Shepherd'. If she dies at home they'll come and pick her up here. If she dies in the vets care or if I have to have her PTS, they'll pick her up there. Then they will deliver the cremains to me in the urn I've supplied. It may seem sort of gruesome but I'd rather not have to deal with the details when I'm in shock. I was so unravelled when my dog Sampson died I couldn't think straight. I really don't want to have to think about these details when the time comes again. Jill |
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Ooops (Correction: WAS Pet urns (kinda off topic)
"jmcquown" wrote in message
... "ingold1234[at]yahoo[dot]com (Gandalf)" wrote in message ... On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 17:09:43 -0400, "~*LiveLoveLaugh*~" wrote: Has anyone looked at urns for their dearly departed cats (or dogs)? OMG!! Talk about ripping you off when you're vulnerable!! I looked at some for $500.00!!!!!! I was tempted to call them and bitch them out for their stinkin' prices. I did settle on a walnut colored box that has a ceramic Basset Hound on top. There's a brass plate on the front for engraving. Even this one cost $125.00!! It's definitely worth it to me, and I'm glad I am able to afford it. I just can't believe these places and their prices. It's absolutely horrendous!!! ·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) Laurie ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- ((¸¸ ·.· *~*LiveLoveLaugh*~* All that I am or hope to be, I owe to my angel mother. ~Abraham Lincoln My Mother is 88 years old. It is her desire to be cremated, when the time comes. Since my Father was a WWII veteran, she is entitled to be buried in the local National Cemetery, with him. He died in 1980 She has already chosen a fairly plain wooden box for her 'cremains'. Since it will be buried, rather than displayed, it is a fairly plain, painted wooden box. I believe she said it cost about $20., when she bought it about 10 years ago. The funeral industry, even for pets, is as corrupt and greedy as any in the world. They try to take advantage of people who are extremely vulnerable, and perhaps not able to make good decisions. I handled a lot of my Father's arrangements, and one man repeatedly tried shoving documents in my face, in an attempt to get me to sign for expensive services. He would say 'I need you to sign these forms', and then would get upset when i insisted on reading them. I repeatedly took them from him, and tore them up, and threw them away. I tried to have him removed from the room, repeatedly, but it turned out he was the owner of the funeral home. So, the phrase 'Just shut the **** up, Shylock' was also repeatedly heard. I am under no obligation to be polite to money grubbing, lying ass****s, who are trying to exploit me, and my poor widowed Mother. Sometime about 5 years after my Father died, my state enacted new laws to try to 'protect' people from dishonest funeral directors. But, if they can get you to sign a legal document, by lying and saying it is for 'transport of the body', when it is REALLY for thousands of dollars of unwanted services, legally, you are bound to pay, unless you can prove in court, weeks or months later, that you were defrauded. Usually, it is only your word against theirs. My Father taught me NEVER to sign ANTHING, without reading it first. A valuable lesson that I'm glad I did not forget. I was extremely fortunate in that the local funeral home wasn't trying to talk us into anything when my father died. He (and my mother) are buried at the National cemetery. Mom picked out his funeral urn and when she died I got one that matched his. Green marble. Surprisingly, his funeral cost $4000 more than [correction] HERS. Of course he had the full military escort and 21 gun salute. [But that was provided by the government so I'm not sure why his was so much more expensive than hers.] When Persia dies she will be cremated and her ashes stored in a pewter urn on the mantle. I may decide later to bury her in said urn outside my bedroom window. Jill |
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Pet urns (kinda off topic)
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"jmcquown" wrote: It may seem sort of gruesome but I'd rather not have to deal with the details when I'm in shock. I was so unravelled when my dog Sampson died I couldn't think straight. I really don't want to have to think about these details when the time comes again. Jill We *can* think ahead for these things, so when we know that in the moment we won't be thinking very clearly, we almost have an obligation to make arrangements ahead of time. It's a sensible thing to do, honestly. -- minnow ^..^ http://twitter.com/taheenahana http://www.flickr.com/photos/minnow/ |
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Pet urns (kinda off topic)
Have been to the falls and you will have to be very slick at doing this. It
was done the day we were there, the container was not as big as one would think and the lady slipped it out of her bag when we were at the Hurricane falls. No one who saw it said a word. "BfloPolska" wrote in message ... On Nov 3, 6:04 pm, "Granby" wrote: When I needed such a thing, I found a pretty basket with a lid and put the bag with the ashes in it until I did something with them. A neighbor used a metal "Milk Bone" can she got around Christmas for her poodle dog. There are many thins that work and maybe have more meaning than the fancy ones Fritzie's ashes were returned to us in a plain but very handsome rosewood box, and Odessa-Doll's in a pretty black tin with little flowers painted around it. We commited their ashes to running water, as is Sikh custom, returning the last earthly remains to Nature after the soul has ascended. In Fritzie's box we put the rose petals from the bouquet the vet sent. Odessa received a mixed bouquet, so we put one of each type of flower or plant included in the bunch. In Fritzie's, we also placed the ornament our vet made of his paw print; in Dolly's, the green collar she wore when she came to us and one of her favorite toys, a nice natural-bristle makeup brush. When Sabrina goes, we will have her cremated with her beloved wool pieces she still likes to sleep on. Louie has an unusual last request, and one which will land me in jail. He wants his ashes put into a barrel-shaped receptacle and put over Niagara Falls! I told him only if he does it for me too. Blessed be, Baha |
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Pet urns (kinda off topic)
"jmcquown" wrote in message ... It may seem sort of gruesome but I'd rather not have to deal with the details when I'm in shock. I was so unravelled when my dog Sampson died I couldn't think straight. I really don't want to have to think about these details when the time comes again. Jill I don't think that's gruesome. I think it's a wise thing to do. My sister and I even arranged for a pre-paid service for my *mother* when she entered the nursing home. We certainly were not wishing for her death, but it saved an enormous amount of heartache when she did die (5 years, 9 months later), and we did not have to make basic decisions at that time. I have never made that type of advance planning for my pets, but I did arrange for a friend to make a tiny casket for each of my cats when I knew the time was imminent. Cremation for cats was not easily available at that time, and I wanted to make sure that a dog could not get to them. I planted a "memorial tree" at each of their heads. When the time comes for Holly and Duffy--which I hope will be many years in the future--I plan to have them cremated and scatter the ashes in the back yard garden. MaryL |
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Pet urns (kinda off topic)
On 05/11/2010 00:30, jmcquown wrote:
It may seem sort of gruesome but I'd rather not have to deal with the details when I'm in shock. I was so unravelled when my dog Sampson died I couldn't think straight. I really don't want to have to think about these details when the time comes again. Not gruesome at all. One day you'll be glad you thought of it beforehand. When first Nikki and, later the same year, Frank died, I was thankful that I had already thought out a plan for when they passed on. Nikki's death especially was so unforeseen and sudden. When the vet asked me what I wanted to do with her body, I would not have been able to make any decisions then and there. But I'd already decided a couple of years previously that I would have them both cremated and scatter their ashes on their summer island that they loved. The crematorium delivered their ashes in quite plain cardboard boxes, but I didn't mind that since I was never going to keep the ashes around. Except for a little bit of Frank's ashes that I keep in a locket around my neck (actually, it's one of those cylinders for pets' collars. You can screw it apart and insert a slip of paper with the pet's owner's contact details. Well, I inserted a little of my heartcat's remains. Now, that may seem gruesome to some, but it comforts me). -- Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. |
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Pet urns (kinda off topic)
It was your solution that inspired me to get a small bit of Bandit's hair on
her last day with us (she wasn't cremated, she was buried, with a small headstone, in our backyard). I bought a cat locket and keep it in there. And, no, I don't think it's gruesome at all. I think it's a lovely tribute to one who gave you her love and life. -- Hugs, CatNipped See all our masters at: http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped See the RPCA FAQ site, by Mark Edwards, at: http://www.professional-geek.com/rpcablog/ "Marina" wrote in message ... On 05/11/2010 00:30, jmcquown wrote: It may seem sort of gruesome but I'd rather not have to deal with the details when I'm in shock. I was so unravelled when my dog Sampson died I couldn't think straight. I really don't want to have to think about these details when the time comes again. Not gruesome at all. One day you'll be glad you thought of it beforehand. When first Nikki and, later the same year, Frank died, I was thankful that I had already thought out a plan for when they passed on. Nikki's death especially was so unforeseen and sudden. When the vet asked me what I wanted to do with her body, I would not have been able to make any decisions then and there. But I'd already decided a couple of years previously that I would have them both cremated and scatter their ashes on their summer island that they loved. The crematorium delivered their ashes in quite plain cardboard boxes, but I didn't mind that since I was never going to keep the ashes around. Except for a little bit of Frank's ashes that I keep in a locket around my neck (actually, it's one of those cylinders for pets' collars. You can screw it apart and insert a slip of paper with the pet's owner's contact details. Well, I inserted a little of my heartcat's remains. Now, that may seem gruesome to some, but it comforts me). -- Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. |
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Pet urns (kinda off topic)
If you are blessed to find something that brings you comfort, then you are
indeed blessed. "Marina" wrote in message ... On 05/11/2010 00:30, jmcquown wrote: It may seem sort of gruesome but I'd rather not have to deal with the details when I'm in shock. I was so unravelled when my dog Sampson died I couldn't think straight. I really don't want to have to think about these details when the time comes again. Not gruesome at all. One day you'll be glad you thought of it beforehand. When first Nikki and, later the same year, Frank died, I was thankful that I had already thought out a plan for when they passed on. Nikki's death especially was so unforeseen and sudden. When the vet asked me what I wanted to do with her body, I would not have been able to make any decisions then and there. But I'd already decided a couple of years previously that I would have them both cremated and scatter their ashes on their summer island that they loved. The crematorium delivered their ashes in quite plain cardboard boxes, but I didn't mind that since I was never going to keep the ashes around. Except for a little bit of Frank's ashes that I keep in a locket around my neck (actually, it's one of those cylinders for pets' collars. You can screw it apart and insert a slip of paper with the pet's owner's contact details. Well, I inserted a little of my heartcat's remains. Now, that may seem gruesome to some, but it comforts me). -- Marina, Miranda and Caliban. In loving memory of Frank and Nikki. |
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