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Persia does not like the Royal Canin or the Prescription Hill's k/d canned
food the vet said she should eat. (They sold me both brands so I could see which she liked better... the answer is neither one.) She was merely picking at it, just eating enough to stave off hunger pangs. I called the vet yesterday about her not liking this food. The first thing she suggested was (yep, Christina!) hospitalize her so they can give her sub-q fluids. First of all, I can't afford that. Secondly, while I know hydration can be a problem in cats with early renal failure, I really don't believe it's an issue for her. Persia drinks a LOT of water; she always has. (Some of you may recall I bought her a Drinkwell fountain because she kept drinking from the faucet while I was brushing my teeth!) She definitely drinks a lot of water. Then the vet suggested an appetite stimulant. Just so happens I already had some from last year. I put one in a pill pocket and she scarfed it down. Sure enough, last night she ate more of the k/d than she had previously. BUT... this food does not agree with her at all. During the night she vomited and developed diarrhea. Oh crap! (Pardon the pun). The prescription food made her sick! I'm afraid to try the Royal Canin again. (She "liked" the k/d better than the RC, which isn't saying much. But if she won't eat it, or if it, too, makes her sick, what's the point? This food isn't cheap!) After cleaning up the mess I gave her some Fancy Feast. At least she'll have some food in her tummy. I left a message for the vet. Of course they're closed - it's Sunday. I'll keep an eye on her throughout the day. If necessary I'll call the emergency number. I'm just venting, really. Thanks for listening. Jill |
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BUT... this food does not agree with her at all. During the night she vomited and developed diarrhea. It may be the pill that made her sick, but I suspect the sudden change in diet causes the diarrhea. We had that problem with Presto. You may have to mix a little of the new food in her Fancy Feast, increasing it a little at a time. That's what worked for Presto. -- Proof of sanity forged upon request |
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jmcquown wrote:
Persia does not like the Royal Canin or the Prescription Hill's k/d canned food the vet said she should eat. (They sold me both brands so I could see which she liked better... the answer is neither one.) She was merely picking at it, just eating enough to stave off hunger pangs. I called the vet yesterday about her not liking this food. The first thing she suggested was (yep, Christina!) hospitalize her so they can give her sub-q fluids. First of all, I can't afford that. Secondly, while I know hydration can be a problem in cats with early renal failure, I really don't believe it's an issue for her. Persia drinks a LOT of water; she always has. (Some of you may recall I bought her a Drinkwell fountain because she kept drinking from the faucet while I was brushing my teeth!) She definitely drinks a lot of water. Then the vet suggested an appetite stimulant. Just so happens I already had some from last year. I put one in a pill pocket and she scarfed it down. Sure enough, last night she ate more of the k/d than she had previously. BUT... this food does not agree with her at all. During the night she vomited and developed diarrhea. Oh crap! (Pardon the pun). The prescription food made her sick! I'm afraid to try the Royal Canin again. (She "liked" the k/d better than the RC, which isn't saying much. But if she won't eat it, or if it, too, makes her sick, what's the point? This food isn't cheap!) After cleaning up the mess I gave her some Fancy Feast. At least she'll have some food in her tummy. I left a message for the vet. Of course they're closed - it's Sunday. I'll keep an eye on her throughout the day. If necessary I'll call the emergency number. I'm just venting, really. Thanks for listening. Jill Please read this page, Jill http://www.felinecrf.org/which_foods.htm There is a section on how to start your cat on prescription food, which says: If you happen to have a CKD cat who likes the prescription food, it is still better not to try to switch your cat over in one fell swoop, because a sudden change of food may cause diarrhoea. This might be what happened with Persia. There is also a section on what to do if your cat won't or can't eat the prescription food. Lots of good info on there. Nadia, Kotyo and Sweety -- Little Monster pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/nnakova/Kotyo Sweety pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/nnakova/Sweety Kotyo and Sweety together: http://picasaweb.google.com/nnakova/KotyoAndSweety |
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"jmcquown" wrote in message ... Persia does not like the Royal Canin or the Prescription Hill's k/d canned food the vet said she should eat. (They sold me both brands so I could see which she liked better... the answer is neither one.) She was merely picking at it, just eating enough to stave off hunger pangs. I called the vet yesterday about her not liking this food. The first thing she suggested was (yep, Christina!) hospitalize her so they can give her sub-q fluids. First of all, I can't afford that. Secondly, while I know hydration can be a problem in cats with early renal failure, I really don't believe it's an issue for her. Persia drinks a LOT of water; she always has. (Some of you may recall I bought her a Drinkwell fountain because she kept drinking from the faucet while I was brushing my teeth!) She definitely drinks a lot of water. Then the vet suggested an appetite stimulant. Just so happens I already had some from last year. I put one in a pill pocket and she scarfed it down. Sure enough, last night she ate more of the k/d than she had previously. BUT... this food does not agree with her at all. During the night she vomited and developed diarrhea. Oh crap! (Pardon the pun). The prescription food made her sick! I'm afraid to try the Royal Canin again. (She "liked" the k/d better than the RC, which isn't saying much. But if she won't eat it, or if it, too, makes her sick, what's the point? This food isn't cheap!) After cleaning up the mess I gave her some Fancy Feast. At least she'll have some food in her tummy. I left a message for the vet. Of course they're closed - it's Sunday. I'll keep an eye on her throughout the day. If necessary I'll call the emergency number. I'm just venting, really. Thanks for listening. White meat is easy on the kidneys. If Persia will not eat the tinned kidney diet, try her on chicken legs. Don't do the breast meat until end stage when she won't eat anything else. In the meantime, of course see what your vet suggests as an alternative. It could be that there are dry alternatives but her teeth would have to be good and I don't know whether they are or not. Sub-q by the vet is the last resort here but from what you have said you are not at that point at all. She has an early diagnosis? or did you know something was not right before? Not trying to say bad but it makes a difference about what to do and how to feed, and also how your vet sees it. I don't think the tinned kidney feeds are very palatable, it's not the company's fault who make them as they need to include everything in there that is needed. Unfortunately cats & dogs (had old dogs with CRF too) need something extremely lovely to tempt them to eat as they deteriorated. I have said this many times on the group (not for you,Jill) Do Not Ever Feed Your Cat The Best Food in the World Because It Proves You Love Them. Otherwise when they are ill there is nothing to tempt them. My vet told me this and it's good advice. Tweed |
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"jmcquown" wrote in message
... Persia does not like the Royal Canin or the Prescription Hill's k/d canned food the vet said she should eat. (They sold me both brands so I could see which she liked better... the answer is neither one.) She was merely picking at it, just eating enough to stave off hunger pangs. I called the vet yesterday about her not liking this food. The first thing she suggested was (yep, Christina!) hospitalize her so they can give her sub-q fluids. First of all, I can't afford that. Secondly, while I know hydration can be a problem in cats with early renal failure, I really don't believe it's an issue for her. Persia drinks a LOT of water; she always has. (Some of you may recall I bought her a Drinkwell fountain because she kept drinking from the faucet while I was brushing my teeth!) She definitely drinks a lot of water. Then the vet suggested an appetite stimulant. Just so happens I already had some from last year. I put one in a pill pocket and she scarfed it down. Sure enough, last night she ate more of the k/d than she had previously. BUT... this food does not agree with her at all. During the night she vomited and developed diarrhea. Oh crap! (Pardon the pun). The prescription food made her sick! I'm afraid to try the Royal Canin again. (She "liked" the k/d better than the RC, which isn't saying much. But if she won't eat it, or if it, too, makes her sick, what's the point? This food isn't cheap!) After cleaning up the mess I gave her some Fancy Feast. At least she'll have some food in her tummy. I left a message for the vet. Of course they're closed - it's Sunday. I'll keep an eye on her throughout the day. If necessary I'll call the emergency number. I'm just venting, really. Thanks for listening. Jill Each vet seems to have his or her own opinion about matters like this. Mine said, "The important thing is that she eat. If she won't eat the food that's best for her, feed her what she will eat." It is possible that not having the special food will shorten her life, but so will not eating at all. Obviously, you have to make the decision yourself, after consulting your vet. I'm not telling you what to do, just what I did in a similar circumstance. Whenever I wonder what course to take with my cats, I try to think how I would feel if I were in their place. Would I rather live longer, being forced to eat what I like, or would I rather enjoy what time I have left? Again, only you can make the decision for your cat. Joy |
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On 07/29/2012 06:58 PM, Joy wrote:
wrote in message ... Persia does not like the Royal Canin or the Prescription Hill's k/d canned food the vet said she should eat. (They sold me both brands so I could see which she liked better... the answer is neither one.) She was merely picking at it, just eating enough to stave off hunger pangs. I called the vet yesterday about her not liking this food. The first thing she suggested was (yep, Christina!) hospitalize her so they can give her sub-q fluids. First of all, I can't afford that. Secondly, while I know hydration can be a problem in cats with early renal failure, I really don't believe it's an issue for her. Persia drinks a LOT of water; she always has. (Some of you may recall I bought her a Drinkwell fountain because she kept drinking from the faucet while I was brushing my teeth!) She definitely drinks a lot of water. Then the vet suggested an appetite stimulant. Just so happens I already had some from last year. I put one in a pill pocket and she scarfed it down. Sure enough, last night she ate more of the k/d than she had previously. BUT... this food does not agree with her at all. During the night she vomited and developed diarrhea. Oh crap! (Pardon the pun). The prescription food made her sick! I'm afraid to try the Royal Canin again. (She "liked" the k/d better than the RC, which isn't saying much. But if she won't eat it, or if it, too, makes her sick, what's the point? This food isn't cheap!) After cleaning up the mess I gave her some Fancy Feast. At least she'll have some food in her tummy. I left a message for the vet. Of course they're closed - it's Sunday. I'll keep an eye on her throughout the day. If necessary I'll call the emergency number. I'm just venting, really. Thanks for listening. Jill Each vet seems to have his or her own opinion about matters like this. Mine said, "The important thing is that she eat. If she won't eat the food that's best for her, feed her what she will eat." It is possible that not having the special food will shorten her life, but so will not eating at all. Obviously, you have to make the decision yourself, after consulting your vet. I'm not telling you what to do, just what I did in a similar circumstance. Whenever I wonder what course to take with my cats, I try to think how I would feel if I were in their place. Would I rather live longer, being forced to eat what I like, or would I rather enjoy what time I have left? Again, only you can make the decision for your cat. Joy IMHO Give her what makes her happy! MLB |
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"MLB" wrote in message ...
On 07/29/2012 06:58 PM, Joy wrote: wrote in message ... Persia does not like the Royal Canin or the Prescription Hill's k/d canned food the vet said she should eat. (They sold me both brands so I could see which she liked better... the answer is neither one.) She was merely picking at it, just eating enough to stave off hunger pangs. (snippage) Each vet seems to have his or her own opinion about matters like this. Mine said, "The important thing is that she eat. If she won't eat the food that's best for her, feed her what she will eat." It is possible that not having the special food will shorten her life, but so will not eating at all. Obviously, you have to make the decision yourself, after consulting your vet. I'm not telling you what to do, just what I did in a similar circumstance. Whenever I wonder what course to take with my cats, I try to think how I would feel if I were in their place. Would I rather live longer, being forced to eat what I like, or would I rather enjoy what time I have left? Again, only you can make the decision for your cat. Joy IMHO Give her what makes her happy! MLB I just went to the store to stock up on Fancy Feast and a couple of cans of Friskies. She's chowing down! Forget the expensive R/x food. I'll give her whatever she wants, so long as she eats. Thanks everyone for the support and encouragement. Jill |
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"jmcquown" wrote in message
... "MLB" wrote in message ... On 07/29/2012 06:58 PM, Joy wrote: wrote in message ... Persia does not like the Royal Canin or the Prescription Hill's k/d canned food the vet said she should eat. (They sold me both brands so I could see which she liked better... the answer is neither one.) She was merely picking at it, just eating enough to stave off hunger pangs. (snippage) Each vet seems to have his or her own opinion about matters like this. Mine said, "The important thing is that she eat. If she won't eat the food that's best for her, feed her what she will eat." It is possible that not having the special food will shorten her life, but so will not eating at all. Obviously, you have to make the decision yourself, after consulting your vet. I'm not telling you what to do, just what I did in a similar circumstance. Whenever I wonder what course to take with my cats, I try to think how I would feel if I were in their place. Would I rather live longer, being forced to eat what I like, or would I rather enjoy what time I have left? Again, only you can make the decision for your cat. Joy IMHO Give her what makes her happy! MLB I just went to the store to stock up on Fancy Feast and a couple of cans of Friskies. She's chowing down! Forget the expensive R/x food. I'll give her whatever she wants, so long as she eats. Thanks everyone for the support and encouragement. Jill I suspected that's what you'd do. It seemed like the way to go. Joy |
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"jmcquown" wrote in message ... "MLB" wrote in message ... On 07/29/2012 06:58 PM, Joy wrote: wrote in message ... Persia does not like the Royal Canin or the Prescription Hill's k/d canned food the vet said she should eat. (They sold me both brands so I could see which she liked better... the answer is neither one.) She was merely picking at it, just eating enough to stave off hunger pangs. (snippage) Each vet seems to have his or her own opinion about matters like this. Mine said, "The important thing is that she eat. If she won't eat the food that's best for her, feed her what she will eat." It is possible that not having the special food will shorten her life, but so will not eating at all. Obviously, you have to make the decision yourself, after consulting your vet. I'm not telling you what to do, just what I did in a similar circumstance. Whenever I wonder what course to take with my cats, I try to think how I would feel if I were in their place. Would I rather live longer, being forced to eat what I like, or would I rather enjoy what time I have left? Again, only you can make the decision for your cat. Joy IMHO Give her what makes her happy! MLB I just went to the store to stock up on Fancy Feast and a couple of cans of Friskies. She's chowing down! Forget the expensive R/x food. I'll give her whatever she wants, so long as she eats. Thanks everyone for the support and encouragement. Don't discount the Rx food suiting her yet. If you suddenly switch food (a lot of people do this when the vet has advised it) it will often upset their tummies. Try again with, say, 1/4 kidney diet mixed with 3/4 of her usual for a week and up the proportion of KD weekly until within 4-6 weeks she is on the Rx food completely. It really does lengthen their life if you can get them on to it. Yes, it's expensive, I know. I also know what living on very small income means as I'm doing it atm. Please don't make a decision yet about giving Persia everything she wants to eat regardless, I don't think she's got to that stage. Giving them treaty-foods that don't help damaged kidneys function as best they can is a panic reaction to a new diagnosis. Save the bad-for-you-treaty-foods for when she is nearer the end stage of CRF when she won't eat and turns her nose up at almost everything. I am not a vet but I am sharing my experience with CRF, not only with my cat, but with many of my dogs who lived a long time. CRF is the bane of the old cat or dog. Tweed |
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message ... "jmcquown" wrote in message ... "MLB" wrote in message ... On 07/29/2012 06:58 PM, Joy wrote: wrote in message ... Persia does not like the Royal Canin or the Prescription Hill's k/d canned food the vet said she should eat. (They sold me both brands so I could see which she liked better... the answer is neither one.) She was merely picking at it, just eating enough to stave off hunger pangs. (snippage) Each vet seems to have his or her own opinion about matters like this. Mine said, "The important thing is that she eat. If she won't eat the food that's best for her, feed her what she will eat." It is possible that not having the special food will shorten her life, but so will not eating at all. (snippage) Joy IMHO Give her what makes her happy! MLB I just went to the store to stock up on Fancy Feast and a couple of cans of Friskies. She's chowing down! Forget the expensive R/x food. I'll give her whatever she wants, so long as she eats. Thanks everyone for the support and encouragement. Don't discount the Rx food suiting her yet. If you suddenly switch food (a lot of people do this when the vet has advised it) it will often upset their tummies. Try again with, say, 1/4 kidney diet mixed with 3/4 of her usual for a week and up the proportion of KD weekly until within 4-6 weeks she is on the Rx food completely. It really does lengthen their life if you can get them on to it. Yes, it's expensive, I know. I also know what living on very small income means as I'm doing it atm. Please don't make a decision yet about giving Persia everything she wants to eat regardless, I don't think she's got to that stage. Tweed ***************** Yesterday I started mixing a little of the canned k/d with some Fancy Feast. She eats it but she definitely knows it's not all FF! At least it's not making her ill. Also, they make the feline k/d in kibble form. Since I know Persia drinks a lot of water anyway, I'll ask the vet about trying some of that instead with a little FF as a treat a few times a week. An 8.5 oz. bag of the kibble is a lot less expensive than what I paid for 8 cans of canned! Thanks again to everyone. Jill |
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