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Old February 12th 07, 02:12 AM posted to alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
MaryL
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Default Houston Humane Society is advertising front paw declawing!!


"Ryan Robbins" wrote in message
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"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
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This is disgusting! I wrote a few days ago to defend some of the HSUS
practices, but this is absolutely revolting. Read what the Houston
Humane Society (note: Houston, not the national HSUS) is advertising as a
"Valentine's Day special" for cats (free neutering accompanied by a
*reduced rate for front paw declawing*):

"We will be neutering 300 male cats only (NO FEMALES) that day. There
will be no general public surgery-other than the male cats. We will be
declawing only a small amount of male cats for the normal price of $60
(front paws only)."

The flyer also says, "Show your cat you love him on Valentine's Day by
helping him live a longer, healthier life."
In other words, they are really saying: show your cat you love him by
mutilating his front feet.


I'm against declawing, too. But you have grossly misrepresented the ad.
The ad says nothing about a reduced rate for declawing. The "Valentine's
Day" special is for neutering.




That's correct. I posted a follow-up just a few minutes after the first
message in which I said this: Once again, I let my fingers move faster than
my brain. The Houston Humane Society is not advertising a "special rate" on
declawing. The special is for free neutering, but declawing can also be
done at the "regular rate" of $60.00. If anything, though, that makes it
*even worse* to think that the Humane Society would think of declawing as a
"normal" thing to do and would even sponsor it. I think I am going to be
sick!!

I also posted a message to make it clear that this was the Houston Humane
Society only and not the HSUS. The HSUS has a number of articles and links
on their site *in opposition to* declawing.

MaryL



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Old February 12th 07, 03:13 AM posted to alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Default Houston Humane Society is advertising front paw declawing!! - slight correction

It doesn't? You mean you didn't see they have a $60 declaw special as a part
of this package? Obviously, you didn't read the page at all.

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The ad says nothing of the sort.





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Old February 12th 07, 03:17 AM posted to alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Default Houston Humane Society is advertising front paw declawing!!

Well, the page says the following

"We will be neutering 300 male cats only (NO FEMALES) that day. There will
be no general public surgery-other than the male cats. We will be declawing
only a small amount of male cats for the normal price of $60 (front paws
only). Each client will be allowed to bring a maximum of 5 male cats."

This shows without a shadow of a doubt they are pro-declaw and by stating
the above they are indeed advertising that they do perform declaws. Any
listing on a web site for service is an advertisement.

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"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
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"Ryan Robbins" wrote in message
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"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
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This is disgusting! I wrote a few days ago to defend some of the HSUS
practices, but this is absolutely revolting. Read what the Houston
Humane Society (note: Houston, not the national HSUS) is advertising as
a "Valentine's Day special" for cats (free neutering accompanied by a
*reduced rate for front paw declawing*):

"We will be neutering 300 male cats only (NO FEMALES) that day. There
will be no general public surgery-other than the male cats. We will be
declawing only a small amount of male cats for the normal price of $60
(front paws only)."

The flyer also says, "Show your cat you love him on Valentine's Day by
helping him live a longer, healthier life."
In other words, they are really saying: show your cat you love him by
mutilating his front feet.


I'm against declawing, too. But you have grossly misrepresented the ad.
The ad says nothing about a reduced rate for declawing. The "Valentine's
Day" special is for neutering.




That's correct. I posted a follow-up just a few minutes after the first
message in which I said this: Once again, I let my fingers move faster
than my brain. The Houston Humane Society is not advertising a "special
rate" on declawing. The special is for free neutering, but declawing can
also be done at the "regular rate" of $60.00. If anything, though, that
makes it *even worse* to think that the Humane Society would think of
declawing as a "normal" thing to do and would even sponsor it. I think I
am going to be sick!!

I also posted a message to make it clear that this was the Houston Humane
Society only and not the HSUS. The HSUS has a number of articles and
links on their site *in opposition to* declawing.

MaryL





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Old February 12th 07, 03:32 AM posted to alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Default Houston Humane Society is advertising front paw declawing!!


"Cat Protector" wrote in message
...
Well, the page says the following

"We will be neutering 300 male cats only (NO FEMALES) that day. There
will be no general public surgery-other than the male cats. We will be
declawing only a small amount of male cats for the normal price of $60
(front paws only). Each client will be allowed to bring a maximum of 5
male cats."

This shows without a shadow of a doubt they are pro-declaw and by stating
the above they are indeed advertising that they do perform declaws. Any
listing on a web site for service is an advertisement.

--
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www.catgalaxymedia.com

Of course, it's pro-declaw. Even worse, they are *sponsoring* it --
absolutely disgusting, as I said earlier. However, the price of $60.00 is
not a special. It's their normal price (which makes it even worse because
the *inhumane* Houston Humane Society apparently sees declawing as
"normal").

MaryL


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Old February 12th 07, 04:02 AM posted to alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Default Houston Humane Society is advertising front paw declawing!! -slight correction

On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:21:10 -0500, Wendy wrote:

"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message
.. .

So why not give the cat a vasectomy and thereby preserve the horomonal
conditions bestowed by sweet Mother Nature?

Charlie


Probably because he'd still behave like an un-neutered male - mating
(even thought he would be shooting blanks) and fighting. He'd have the
opportunity because an un-neutered male would be much more difficult to
keep in or around ones home as he'd be quite inclined to wander off
looking for some 'action'.


This is my point -- the neutering is done for the convenience of the
owner, as much as for any other reason. Certainly it alters the nature of
the cat at the most basic level, substantially changing its behavior and
its temperament.

I will grant that de-sexing reduces the tendency of cats to engage in
high-risk behavior, and so it extends their lives. But what is more
important -- quantity or quality of life? I have followed the declawing
debate in this group a number of times. One of the arguments
against declawing is that it deprives a cat of something fundamental to
its nature, and therefore diminishes its quality of life. But the people
with declawed cats deny that this is the case. They say their pets seem
happy and contented, to which the anti-declawers respond by saying it's an
illusion; cats are good at masking their suffering. If that is true, then
how can the anti-declawers assure themselves that neutering doesn't have a
similar effect?

Charlie
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Old February 12th 07, 04:41 AM posted to alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Default Houston Humane Society is advertising front paw declawing!!

Which is why I posted what I did. The reason I called it a special is
because they seemingly packaged it together with the free neuter surgery.

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"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
...

"Cat Protector" wrote in message
...
Well, the page says the following

"We will be neutering 300 male cats only (NO FEMALES) that day. There
will be no general public surgery-other than the male cats. We will be
declawing only a small amount of male cats for the normal price of $60
(front paws only). Each client will be allowed to bring a maximum of 5
male cats."

This shows without a shadow of a doubt they are pro-declaw and by stating
the above they are indeed advertising that they do perform declaws. Any
listing on a web site for service is an advertisement.

--
Cat Galaxy: All Cats! All The Time!
www.catgalaxymedia.com

Of course, it's pro-declaw. Even worse, they are *sponsoring* it --
absolutely disgusting, as I said earlier. However, the price of $60.00 is
not a special. It's their normal price (which makes it even worse because
the *inhumane* Houston Humane Society apparently sees declawing as
"normal").

MaryL



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Old February 12th 07, 05:20 AM posted to alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Default Houston Humane Society is advertising front paw declawing!! - slight correction


"MaryL" -OUT-THE-LITTER wrote in message
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The flyer also says, "Show your cat you love him on Valentine's Day by
helping him live a longer, healthier life."


......Unless he/she happens to run into a big dog......


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Old February 12th 07, 05:28 AM posted to alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Default Houston Humane Society is advertising front paw declawing!! - slight correction


"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message
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Hmmm. It seems to me that cutting off a cat's nuts is a pretty
substantial form of mutilation. It's done to make the animal into a more
satisfactory domestic pet, right?

Charlie


No. It's mainly done to keep the world from becoming covered with starving
cats, and it doesn't hurt the cats at all.....Unlike human beings they know
not what they are missing. Also, and more to the point, it doesn't interfere
with their ability to protect themselves from dogs, raccoons, and other
predatory animals.....


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Old February 12th 07, 05:34 AM posted to alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Default Houston Humane Society is advertising front paw declawing!! - slight correction


"Dan Espen" wrote in message
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Charlie Wilkes writes:

On Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:20:43 -0700, Cat Protector wrote:

Yes, it was noted that their is a free neuter day but to bunch that in
with
declawing a cat as a way to promote their health is pretty disgusting.


Hmmm. It seems to me that cutting off a cat's nuts is a pretty
substantial form of mutilation. It's done to make the animal into a more
satisfactory domestic pet, right?


Don't try logic, it won't work.

I'd like to see a picture of the 15K couch.
(Before the cat gets to it.)


Anyone who can afford a $15,000 couch can afford to get it recovered every
few years.....My four cats all attack our two couches from time to time, and
the wear and tear over the course of the last 8 years or so is too minimal
to worry about. If you are going to keep a pet, then you should learn to
live with its character and peculiarities.....If you want a fawning,
whining, creature that treats you like the God of the universe, then you
should get a dog.....:^)


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Old February 12th 07, 05:39 AM posted to alt.cats,alt.pets.cats,rec.pets.cats.health+behav
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Default Houston Humane Society is advertising front paw declawing!! - slight correction


"Charlie Wilkes" wrote in message
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So why not give the cat a vasectomy and thereby preserve the horomonal
conditions bestowed by sweet Mother Nature?

Charlie


You can do that....For over $1000 per cat. But even for that, it won't help
the cats tendency to wander a long way from home, and annoy the trailer park
neighbors down the hill, who will shoot it with their 22 rifles and BB guns,
so your $1000 investment will just end up killing the cat anyway....The
average male feral cat only lives about 5 years.......


 




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