Can Cats Eat Dog Food?

Jette Goldie wrote:
Trust me, if you have gallstones, or an irritable gall bladder,
eat fatty foods and suffer the effects of pancreatitis.

That's far from eating a chunk of fat and dropping down dead, isn't it?

--
Victor M. Martinez

http://www.che.utexas.edu/~martiv

"Victor M. Martinez" wrote in message
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Jette Goldie wrote:
Trust me, if you have gallstones, or an irritable gall bladder,
eat fatty foods and suffer the effects of pancreatitis.

That's far from eating a chunk of fat and dropping down dead, isn't it?


You may WISH to drop down dead, however! (the pain is
quite ...... indescribable)(yes, I do speak from experience)

It rather depends on the state of your pancreas before
you start on that chunk of fat. Pancreatitis *can* be
fatal. I doubt that eating a particularly fatty meal would
kill anyone healthy, but if one was already at risk, who
knows? (well, a doctor might)


--
Jette
"Work for Peace and remain Fiercely Loving" - Jim Byrnes

http://www.jette.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 20:30:11 +0000 (UTC), (Victor
M. Martinez) wrote:

William Hamblen wrote:
How exactly does fat produce a "pancreas attack" (is that like a heart
attack? sounds bogus to me)????
Look up pancreatitis.

Already have. Didn't see any links between eating fat and getting pancreatitis
(not quite the same as "pancreas attack", is it?) ...

Pancreatitis is treated with a high carbohydrate, low fat diet (among
other things). Excessive fat intake plus preexisting chronic
pancreatitis could produce abdominal pain.

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Your gall bladder, where bile is produced which is necessary to
digest fat, is located in your pancreas.

Uh, wrong!

Uh, right.

(gall stone sufferer for many years)


Well I'm inclined to agree with Jo, as the gall bladder, is located on
the under surface of the liver, whereas the pancreas, being a gland that
secrets a fluid that assists in the digestive function, is located near
the stomach.

And while we are at it, the gall bladder does not produce bile. It only stores it.
Otherwise having the gall bladder out would be a much bigger deal than it is.

Being a hospital worker and purposefully ignoring the "gallbladder,
pancreas, bile" locations/functions statements, as the slave of a now RB
diabetic cat whom I loved and treated with insulin for many years, I wish to
enlighten re "pancreatitis" that due to his diabetes this cat was subject to
repeated attacks of "pancreatitis" (inflammation of the pancreas) before his
final and life-taking session with it. Pancreas is the organ which secretes
insulin to cats and hoomins' bodies. Diabetes is a disease caused when
pancreas either quits altogether or doesn't secrete *enough* insulin for
correct bodily functions. It has nothing to do with "bile". Pancreatitis is
very painful when hoomins are suffering from it; I would assume it's the
same for cats, but who knows? It also has other causes in hoomins besides
diabetes.



"Jo Firey" wrote in message
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: Your gall bladder, where bile is produced which is necessary to
: digest fat, is located in your pancreas.
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: Uh, wrong!
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: Uh, right.
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: (gall stone sufferer for many years)
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:
: Well I'm inclined to agree with Jo, as the gall bladder, is located on
: the under surface of the liver, whereas the pancreas, being a gland that
: secrets a fluid that assists in the digestive function, is located near
: the stomach.
:
: And while we are at it, the gall bladder does not produce bile. It only
stores it.
: Otherwise having the gall bladder out would be a much bigger deal than it
is.
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On Sat, 6 Sep 2003 18:45:27 -0400, "Hopitus2"
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Being a hospital worker and purposefully ignoring the "gallbladder,
pancreas, bile" locations/functions statements, as the slave of a
now RB diabetic cat whom I loved and treated with insulin for many
years, I wish to enlighten re "pancreatitis" that due to his
diabetes this cat was subject to repeated attacks of "pancreatitis"
(inflammation of the pancreas) before his final and life-taking
session with it. Pancreas is the organ which secretes insulin to
cats and hoomins' bodies. Diabetes is a disease caused when pancreas
either quits altogether or doesn't secrete *enough* insulin for
correct bodily functions. It has nothing to do with "bile".
Pancreatitis is very painful when hoomins are suffering from it; I
would assume it's the same for cats, but who knows? It also has
other causes in hoomins besides diabetes.

Speaking as a human diabetic, you have described only one form of
diabetes above, type I. Type II, which i have, is where the body is
still producing insulin, but another step in the biochemical process
is missing, so the cells won't let the insulin in through the cell
walls. As long as the diabetic's body is still producing enough
insulin, the treatment is to give oral drugs that allow the insulin
to be made use of, rather than giving additional insulin. Some type
II diabetics end up having to inject insulin as well.

I don't know whether or not cats ever develop type II diabetes. I
have only heard of them having type I (insulin-dependent) diabetes.

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I, too, am type II, on oral meds for same. Never asked the vet "what kind of
diabetes" our cat had (I didn't have diabetes then) - from what I remember
of his life between diagnosis and his RB trip, it would seems indeed that
what he had was type I, like the hoomins whose pancreas has quit producing
insulin. I had to test his urine for sugar twice a day and give him (pig)
insulin am and pm after his feedings. Some hoomins who work with me have
type I and they carry a little kit around with them for testing their blood
and injecting themselves with insulin. Because of events that have happened
to them we kinda keep a close eye on these coworkers. That insulin is tricky
stuff, even though it is a hormone. With the type I's, it can kill them if
their blood sugar gets too low.


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: Being a hospital worker and purposefully ignoring the "gallbladder,
: pancreas, bile" locations/functions statements, as the slave of a
: now RB diabetic cat whom I loved and treated with insulin for many
: years, I wish to enlighten re "pancreatitis" that due to his
: diabetes this cat was subject to repeated attacks of "pancreatitis"
: (inflammation of the pancreas) before his final and life-taking
: session with it. Pancreas is the organ which secretes insulin to
: cats and hoomins' bodies. Diabetes is a disease caused when pancreas
: either quits altogether or doesn't secrete *enough* insulin for
: correct bodily functions. It has nothing to do with "bile".
: Pancreatitis is very painful when hoomins are suffering from it; I
: would assume it's the same for cats, but who knows? It also has
: other causes in hoomins besides diabetes.
:
: Speaking as a human diabetic, you have described only one form of
: diabetes above, type I. Type II, which i have, is where the body is
: still producing insulin, but another step in the biochemical process
: is missing, so the cells won't let the insulin in through the cell
: walls. As long as the diabetic's body is still producing enough
: insulin, the treatment is to give oral drugs that allow the insulin
: to be made use of, rather than giving additional insulin. Some type
: II diabetics end up having to inject insulin as well.
:
: I don't know whether or not cats ever develop type II diabetes. I
: have only heard of them having type I (insulin-dependent) diabetes.
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Here is an interesting article about cat food. This author says cats
don't need carbohydrates. I didn't know that.

http://cats.about.com/cs/catfood/a/tipsforchoosing.htm
Todd
http://www.shopflintriver.com

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oups.com...
Here is an interesting article about cat food. This author says cats
don't need carbohydrates. I didn't know that.

http://cats.about.com/cs/catfood/a/tipsforchoosing.htm
Todd
http://www.shopflintriver.com

Cats can eat the occasional meal of dog food with no ill effects, just like
a human can eat a meal from a fast-food outlet with no ill effects. However,
*living* on the stuff is a different matter.

I've given dog food to my cat when I've run out and haven't been able to get
tot he shop before the next cat meal. However, I wouldn't be feeding my cat
dog food for a long period of time, and nor would I be feeding my dog cat
food (she gets cat food when I run out of dog food and can't get to the
store) all the time, either.

Yowie
PS, I have *no idea* what message you are actually replying to. Could you
please include at least the author and the part of the post you are
addressing next time you reply to a message here, as I have done above with
your message, please?

Todd wrote:

Here is an interesting article about cat food. This author says cats
don't need carbohydrates. I didn't know that.

They "manufacture" their own, being true carnivores. (Just
as most animals do not need vitamin C in their diets because
their bodies make it.)