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The problem we have on this group is you get labled the bad guy if you don't
feed your cats the same food as some of the others on this group. Never mind if your cats are healthy, well cared for or even well loved. Some of the bullies on this group simply can't accept that you feed your cats foods that they don't. People like Lauren say "put your ego aside" when it is not about ego. Forgive me if I don't join your crusade against others who may feed their cats food that you wouldn't feed yours. My cats are just fine with the diet they are on. Even the vet says they are healthy and has no problem with my feeding them their normal cat food. Their quality of life is very good and they are happy. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "dgk" wrote in message It's not about you. It's about feeding your cats a good diet. Why don't you put your ego aside, and try feeding your kitties a higher quality food. I know you love your cats and want to do the very best you can for them. Lauren I'm trying to feed my cats a high quality diet and they simply walk away. I'm finally going to get a chance to try some Petguard Premium Feast which some kind soul recommended last week. But frankly, if they won't eat that, then I'm going to try Friskees or 9 Lives. Several of my friends have reasonably elderly cats (15 up to 20) that have eaten that **** all their lives. Me, I fed my previous four cats good food (they were a LOT less picky than the current generation) and only one lived to 16. Two died by the age of 10, one from Heart Disease and the other from Diabetes. This is just anecdotal of course, but I am really getting ****ed off throwing away expensive food after getting that look from the boys."What, you expect us to eat this crap?" And it isn't like I've been offering them the real crap. For all I know they're going to turn it down also (they have all the dry food they want, which IS Science Diet or Eukanuba or Nutra or something - that stuff they eat). Let's say that quality food extends my cats lives by 6 months. That is significant when you only live 18 years or so at a maxiumum. Still, if they really enjoy McDonalds and they hate Quality Nutrition, should I deny them that their whole lives? What is quality of life if not enjoying food? It isn't like they have sex. Hmm. Come to think of it, I should start eating at McDonalds. (I haven't eaten at McDonalds or Burger King since 1970). |
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Karen,
It is all about choice. Just like us, cats can choose not to eat certain foods. I brought home a bag of Iams once and my cats wouldn't even touch it. Right now they get Special Kitty and Friskies canned and they love it. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Karen" wrote in message ... I threw away a LOT of food until I got to Petguard. The three flavors my picky eaters like are Premium Feast, Chicken Stew lite, Turkey Lite with Barley, and Beef w/Barley. Still, I have seen starving strays turn away from 9 lives which makes me wonder what is in THAT! "dgk" wrote in message ... I'm trying to feed my cats a high quality diet and they simply walk away. I'm finally going to get a chance to try some Petguard Premium Feast which some kind soul recommended last week. But frankly, if they won't eat that, then I'm going to try Friskees or 9 Lives. Several of my friends have reasonably elderly cats (15 up to 20) that have eaten that **** all their lives. Me, I fed my previous four cats good food (they were a LOT less picky than the current generation) and only one lived to 16. Two died by the age of 10, one from Heart Disease and the other from Diabetes. This is just anecdotal of course, but I am really getting ****ed off throwing away expensive food after getting that look from the boys."What, you expect us to eat this crap?" And it isn't like I've been offering them the real crap. For all I know they're going to turn it down also (they have all the dry food they want, which IS Science Diet or Eukanuba or Nutra or something - that stuff they eat). Let's say that quality food extends my cats lives by 6 months. That is significant when you only live 18 years or so at a maxiumum. Still, if they really enjoy McDonalds and they hate Quality Nutrition, should I deny them that their whole lives? What is quality of life if not enjoying food? It isn't like they have sex. Hmm. Come to think of it, I should start eating at McDonalds. (I haven't eaten at McDonalds or Burger King since 1970). |
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Karen,
It is all about choice. Just like us, cats can choose not to eat certain foods. I brought home a bag of Iams once and my cats wouldn't even touch it. Right now they get Special Kitty and Friskies canned and they love it. -- Panther TEK: Staying On Top Of All Your Computer Needs! www.panthertekit.com Cat Galaxy: All Cats, All The Time! www.catgalaxymedia.com "Karen" wrote in message ... I threw away a LOT of food until I got to Petguard. The three flavors my picky eaters like are Premium Feast, Chicken Stew lite, Turkey Lite with Barley, and Beef w/Barley. Still, I have seen starving strays turn away from 9 lives which makes me wonder what is in THAT! "dgk" wrote in message ... I'm trying to feed my cats a high quality diet and they simply walk away. I'm finally going to get a chance to try some Petguard Premium Feast which some kind soul recommended last week. But frankly, if they won't eat that, then I'm going to try Friskees or 9 Lives. Several of my friends have reasonably elderly cats (15 up to 20) that have eaten that **** all their lives. Me, I fed my previous four cats good food (they were a LOT less picky than the current generation) and only one lived to 16. Two died by the age of 10, one from Heart Disease and the other from Diabetes. This is just anecdotal of course, but I am really getting ****ed off throwing away expensive food after getting that look from the boys."What, you expect us to eat this crap?" And it isn't like I've been offering them the real crap. For all I know they're going to turn it down also (they have all the dry food they want, which IS Science Diet or Eukanuba or Nutra or something - that stuff they eat). Let's say that quality food extends my cats lives by 6 months. That is significant when you only live 18 years or so at a maxiumum. Still, if they really enjoy McDonalds and they hate Quality Nutrition, should I deny them that their whole lives? What is quality of life if not enjoying food? It isn't like they have sex. Hmm. Come to think of it, I should start eating at McDonalds. (I haven't eaten at McDonalds or Burger King since 1970). |
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In article knCIc.69045$rn1.6186@okepread07,
enlightened us with... Karen, It is all about choice. Just like us, cats can choose not to eat certain foods. I brought home a bag of Iams once and my cats wouldn't even touch it. Right now they get Special Kitty and Friskies canned and they love it. So, if your kid refuses to eat anything but McDonalds, do you just let them do that, or do you figure that when they get hungry enough, they'll eat their veggies? Or maybe they prefer corn instead of broccoli. My cats don't like SD or IAMS either, but they *will* eat Royal Canin, Purina One, Purina Pro Plan, and Nutro. They usually get RC or PP. Sometimes they get PO or Nutro as a treat. Very occasionally they get their favorite crap, which is that "kibbles and bits" for cats junk (I forget the name). Compromise. Don't just settle for utter junk. My cats get Fancy Feast, too, but they also get higher-quality dry food. They only get so much junk. Just like children. You don't let your kids fill up on ice cream and candy every day, do you? I don't let my cats fill up on crap any more than I would let my kids do so (well, if I HAD any kids *LOL*). They get the FF, but not enough to fill them up. If they're still hungry (and they will be), they have the high-quality there to eat. If you love something, you do what's best for them. That includes discipline and a proper diet as well as all the fun stuff. -- -- ~kaeli~ Those who jump off a bridge in Paris... are in Seine. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace |
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dgk wrote:
And it isn't like I've been offering them the real crap. For all I know they're going to turn it down also (they have all the dry food they want, which IS Science Diet or Eukanuba or Nutra or something - that stuff they eat). This is your problem right here and a mistake many people make. When cats have food available all day and are constantly snacking, it doesn't make much difference what other food you offer them, they likely won't care to eat much, if any at all. Ideally you should feed your cats a variety of canned foods on a schedule (every 12 hours is optimal) and don't leave food out in between. Not only is it healther for them, but it changes their attitude towards food and they learn to understand that it's "now or 12 hours from now." It is also wise to feed scheduled meals because it lessens the likelihood of the cat overeating and getting fat, and also will make you aware of illness faster as you'll know exactly when and how much you cat is eating and will quickly notice if it goes off of its food. Most cases of hepatic lipidosis develop because the cats are free fed and it is *days* before an issue is noticed. Sure, leaving dry food out is convenient *for the owner,* but there is a much larger price to pay for that convenience that, AFAIC, makes it not even remotely worthwhile. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray |
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dgk wrote:
And it isn't like I've been offering them the real crap. For all I know they're going to turn it down also (they have all the dry food they want, which IS Science Diet or Eukanuba or Nutra or something - that stuff they eat). This is your problem right here and a mistake many people make. When cats have food available all day and are constantly snacking, it doesn't make much difference what other food you offer them, they likely won't care to eat much, if any at all. Ideally you should feed your cats a variety of canned foods on a schedule (every 12 hours is optimal) and don't leave food out in between. Not only is it healther for them, but it changes their attitude towards food and they learn to understand that it's "now or 12 hours from now." It is also wise to feed scheduled meals because it lessens the likelihood of the cat overeating and getting fat, and also will make you aware of illness faster as you'll know exactly when and how much you cat is eating and will quickly notice if it goes off of its food. Most cases of hepatic lipidosis develop because the cats are free fed and it is *days* before an issue is noticed. Sure, leaving dry food out is convenient *for the owner,* but there is a much larger price to pay for that convenience that, AFAIC, makes it not even remotely worthwhile. Megan "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Learn The TRUTH About Declawing http://www.stopdeclaw.com Zuzu's Cats Photo Album: http://www.PictureTrail.com/zuzu22 "Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation), there is one elementary truth the ignorance of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans: that the moment one definitely commits oneself, then providence moves too. A whole stream of events issues from the decision, raising in one's favor all manner of unforeseen incidents, meetings and material assistance, which no man could have dreamt would have come his way." - W.H. Murray |
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"Cat Protector" wrote in message news:knCIc.69045$rn1.6186@okepread07... Karen, It is all about choice. Just like us, cats can choose not to eat certain foods. I brought home a bag of Iams once and my cats wouldn't even touch it. Right now they get Special Kitty and Friskies canned and they love it. -- So you tried to feed them Iams *once* and they wouldn't eat it. Did you ever try anything else? Believe it or not CP, I, and I'm sure others on here, CARE about your cats. I just don't understand how someone who always wants to do the best for their cats can't even spend a little more money to feed them quality food. I don't care if it's the same brand as the food I feed, just something that isn't crap. Like I said before, at the shelter, where every donation counts, we won't even keep Special Kitty or other store-brand food. It goes for feral trap bait. We do keep Fancy Feast because every so often we get a cat that will only eat that. Sometimes I think they put crack in FF. It's one thing if your cats absolutely refuse to eat anything else, but it's another if you don't even try. One of the things that won me over about Wellness canned food is the way it smells. It doesn't stink! Also, the ingredients are human-grade and there is no by-product of anything. Have you ever wondered what a by-product is? That means the crap that is left over from processing every usable morsel of the cow or chicken. And when it says "meat" by-products, uh, can we be more specific? What type of meat? I'll probably be opening up a whole can of worms with this one, but I've never found a satisfactory answer one way or the other about rendered pets in commercial pet food. So, I tend to err on the side of caution and I'll stick with a cat food that I'm certain has no renderings in it. -- -Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net Check out www.snittens.com |
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"Cat Protector" wrote in message news:knCIc.69045$rn1.6186@okepread07... Karen, It is all about choice. Just like us, cats can choose not to eat certain foods. I brought home a bag of Iams once and my cats wouldn't even touch it. Right now they get Special Kitty and Friskies canned and they love it. -- So you tried to feed them Iams *once* and they wouldn't eat it. Did you ever try anything else? Believe it or not CP, I, and I'm sure others on here, CARE about your cats. I just don't understand how someone who always wants to do the best for their cats can't even spend a little more money to feed them quality food. I don't care if it's the same brand as the food I feed, just something that isn't crap. Like I said before, at the shelter, where every donation counts, we won't even keep Special Kitty or other store-brand food. It goes for feral trap bait. We do keep Fancy Feast because every so often we get a cat that will only eat that. Sometimes I think they put crack in FF. It's one thing if your cats absolutely refuse to eat anything else, but it's another if you don't even try. One of the things that won me over about Wellness canned food is the way it smells. It doesn't stink! Also, the ingredients are human-grade and there is no by-product of anything. Have you ever wondered what a by-product is? That means the crap that is left over from processing every usable morsel of the cow or chicken. And when it says "meat" by-products, uh, can we be more specific? What type of meat? I'll probably be opening up a whole can of worms with this one, but I've never found a satisfactory answer one way or the other about rendered pets in commercial pet food. So, I tend to err on the side of caution and I'll stick with a cat food that I'm certain has no renderings in it. -- -Kelly kelly at farringtons dot net Check out www.snittens.com |
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