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Old July 8th 04, 07:29 AM
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Cat Protector wrote:

If canned food was safe for years beyond
the experation date then food companies
would not put dates on them.


The dates put on the cans being discussed are NOT expiration dates. They
are "best used by" dates. The two terms are entirely different in their
meanings. When you continue to insist something is true without offering
any proof to back up your claim, and when the facts say otherwise, you
only succeed in looking like an idiot. This article excerpt might help
you see through the persistent fog that clouds your brain (and make sure
to note the sentence that says "Canned food as old as 100 years has been
found in sunken ships and it is still microbiologically safe!"):


One of the most frequently asked questions about canned food is its
shelf life and "use-by" dates. The codes that are stamped on canned food
are manufacturers' codes that usually designate the date the product was
packaged. The codes vary from manufacturer to manufacturer and usually
include coding for time and place of canning. Most manufacturers offer a
toll-free number to call for questions about canned food expiration
dates.

Remember, the code stamped on the can is when it was packaged. The
general rule of thumb is that canned food has a shelf life of at least
two years from the date of purchase. It is recommended that all canned
food be stored in moderate temperatures (75=B0 F and below).
Many canned products now have a "for best quality use by" date stamped
on the top or bottom of the can. "Expiration" dates are rarely found on
canned food.
Canned food has a shelf life of at least two years from the date of
processing.

Canned food retains its safety and nutritional value well beyond two
years, but it may have some variation in quality, such as a change of
color and texture. Canning is a high-heat process that renders the food
commercially sterile. Food safety is not an issue in products kept on
the shelf or in the pantry for long periods of time. In fact, canned
food has an almost indefinite shelf life at moderate temperatures (75=B0
F and below). Canned food as old as 100 years has been found in sunken
ships and it is still microbiologically safe! We don't recommend keeping
canned food for 100 years, but if the can is intact, not dented or
bulging, it is edible.

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Old July 8th 04, 12:17 PM
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Why do you guys even try?? It's a lost cause.

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Old July 8th 04, 12:17 PM
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Why do you guys even try?? It's a lost cause.

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Old July 8th 04, 12:59 PM
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"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message
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Why do you guys even try?? It's a lost cause.


It's probably in the hopes that he'll kf everyone in the group, and thereby
prevent himself from participating.

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Old July 8th 04, 12:59 PM
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"Karen Chuplis" wrote in message
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Why do you guys even try?? It's a lost cause.


It's probably in the hopes that he'll kf everyone in the group, and thereby
prevent himself from participating.

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Old July 8th 04, 03:12 PM
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On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 22:41:43 -0700, "Cat Protector"
wrote:

I am not willing to bet my cats or another's health on that one. They put
dates on the cans for a reason. If canned food was safe for years beyond the
experation date then food companies would not put dates on them. Would you
give someone expired milk despite knowing it'd make them sick? If you are so
sure that the food will safe and are willing to ignore the dates then eat it
yourself instead of putting your cats at risk.


Maybe they put dates on the cans so we'll throw away perfectly good
food and buy new cans? Just playing devil's advocate.

Which was the beer that stopped putting "best by" and started putting
"born on" dates? That was clever marketing if you can get the stuff on
the shelves quickly enough. Now it's up the you if you think it's
fresh enough.
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Old July 8th 04, 03:12 PM
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On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 22:41:43 -0700, "Cat Protector"
wrote:

I am not willing to bet my cats or another's health on that one. They put
dates on the cans for a reason. If canned food was safe for years beyond the
experation date then food companies would not put dates on them. Would you
give someone expired milk despite knowing it'd make them sick? If you are so
sure that the food will safe and are willing to ignore the dates then eat it
yourself instead of putting your cats at risk.


Maybe they put dates on the cans so we'll throw away perfectly good
food and buy new cans? Just playing devil's advocate.

Which was the beer that stopped putting "best by" and started putting
"born on" dates? That was clever marketing if you can get the stuff on
the shelves quickly enough. Now it's up the you if you think it's
fresh enough.
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Old July 8th 04, 03:44 PM
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"Sherry " wrote in message
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Yes, that would be the same weenie. The same one who feeds his cats

Special
Kitty. That's the real irony. Expired premium food is probably less

harmful
than Special Kitty.

Sherry


Haha! What you said is sad, but true. At the shelter a local feed store
donated some Wellness canned food that was past it's "best by" date, and we
kept that. Whenever someone donates Special Kitty or other crappy foods, we
give those to the feral trappers to use as bait.

CP, I'm being totally serious he You keep talking about "risking cat's
lives". In all honesty, *you* are risking your cats' lives by feeding them
crap like Special Kitty. They are young now and may appear healthy, but I
bet they are going to end up having health problems when they are older.
Get off the wallet and buy them some decent food, if you love them so much.

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Old July 8th 04, 03:44 PM
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"Sherry " wrote in message
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Yes, that would be the same weenie. The same one who feeds his cats

Special
Kitty. That's the real irony. Expired premium food is probably less

harmful
than Special Kitty.

Sherry


Haha! What you said is sad, but true. At the shelter a local feed store
donated some Wellness canned food that was past it's "best by" date, and we
kept that. Whenever someone donates Special Kitty or other crappy foods, we
give those to the feral trappers to use as bait.

CP, I'm being totally serious he You keep talking about "risking cat's
lives". In all honesty, *you* are risking your cats' lives by feeding them
crap like Special Kitty. They are young now and may appear healthy, but I
bet they are going to end up having health problems when they are older.
Get off the wallet and buy them some decent food, if you love them so much.

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kelly at farringtons dot net
Check out www.snittens.com


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Old July 8th 04, 03:52 PM
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"Cat Protector" wrote in message news:zQ%Gc.58014$rn1.512@okepread07...
How can you simply bet a cat's life on this. You may not think much of your
life but I don't think cats should be made to suffer because you insist on
putting their lives at risk. They put expiration dates on cans for a reason
but this seems to be lost on you.


Sigh,
I'm sure this is a waste of time but I would suggest you think about
the difference between the terms Probability and Possibility. It is
extremely, grotesquely, remotely, POSSIBLE that a canned food past
it's expiration may have botulism, have a massively bulged can and a
very ignorant pet owner who feeds something that smells putrid anyway.
That's a POSSIBILITY but not even a remote PROBABILITY. IF you choose
to live in a world of fear of all the POSSIBILITIES that's your
choice. Chicken Little liked that world as well and spent her life in
fear of the sky falling, which turned out not to be exactly a major
PROBABILITY either.
 




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