I'm having new neighbour problems OT

On 12/18/2011 03:19 PM, Yowie wrote:
In ,
Christina typed:
Strictly speaking they have the dropped kerb in front of their
property that allows me to get my car out.
They continually block it and get annoyed if I ask them to move their
car so I can get mine out.
On Wednesday I asked them once again and I had to hop with my bad foot
around to their house to ask. They went crazy. They shouted at me
and I had to tell them not to do so. It seems that they think they
can block it as much as they want, I said but I can't get my car out
if you do and they said that's too bad for you isn't it? I said I've
been here 25 years and never had a problem with it with my previous
neighbours and they said "we arent your previous neighbours, are we?"
They have to get my permission to build a wall they want and to take
down two trees that they cannot get to except if they do it on my
land. Strangely enough, I am going to say no.

We have things here that you can put over your curb so as to be able to
drive up and down without needing hte curb to be remodelled and allowing the
water to run down the gutter. The're metal plates and kinda look like this:
_
/

They'd be cheaper than having hte curb re-done.

BTW, I am no expert on law, but if you've been using their curb to get yor
car out for years andyears, then you may well have a 'common law' right of
access over their property and they have no legal right ot block it.

either way, I hope the situation resolves quickly, with the least expense
possible.

Yowie


Or does the deed show a
"right of way". Perhaps checking with the county (?) regarding this.
)Or whatever they call the land supervisor there). MLB

"Mishi" wrote in message
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My concern is: would they hurt Boyfie to get back at you for blocking what
they want to do? They sound like real wangers, and I wouldn't put it past
someone like that!
Patti

Not to worry. They don't even know he is my cat, he cannot get on to their
property anyway unless he does it from the roadway and he is unlikely to do
so as a) he rarely goes "out the front" as there's such a lot of "back" with
the other properties and mine and b) there is nothing in their yard to
attract him, it's all paved.
Add to that he is very shy, he wouldn't go within 100 feet of a stranger,
let alone allow anyone to touch him, so he is safe from retribution I hope.

Tweed

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Mishi wrote:

On 12/17/2011 11:59 PM, MaryL wrote:


"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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Strictly speaking they have the dropped kerb in front of their property
that
allows me to get my car out.
They continually block it and get annoyed if I ask them to move their
car so
I can get mine out.
On Wednesday I asked them once again and I had to hop with my bad foot
around to their house to ask. They went crazy. They shouted at me and I
had to tell them not to do so. It seems that they think they can block
it
as much as they want, I said but I can't get my car out if you do and
they
said that's too bad for you isn't it? I said I've been here 25 years
and
never had a problem with it with my previous neighbours and they said
"we
arent your previous neighbours, are we?"
They have to get my permission to build a wall they want and to take
down
two trees that they cannot get to except if they do it on my land.
Strangely enough, I am going to say no.
Tweed

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My concern is: would they hurt Boyfie to get back at you for blocking
what they want to do? They sound like real wangers, and I wouldn't put
it past someone like that!

I had the same thought. These people don't even care that you can't get
out of your driveway, which could be a safety issue - what if you needed
to get to a doctor in a hurry? While you stood here on one foot, nicely
asking them not to block your car, they just laughed and said "too bad for
you"?? These people are beyond rude. They sound really *cold*, like they
don't care what happens to you at all. I'm so sorry you have to deal with
that stress just after you got back from weeks away.

As I said to Patti, they have no idea he is mine, it's unlikely they've even
seen him, ever.
I have never, in my whole life, had to deal with such people.
Never mind. I am usually really easygoing and slow to anger re neighbours
but they will find out how obstructive I can also be, if I want to. And I
do want to now.

Tweed

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote in message
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Christina Websell wrote:
Strictly speaking they have the dropped kerb in front of their property
that allows me to get my car out.
They continually block it and get annoyed if I ask them to move their car
so I can get mine out.

Don't you have access to the street AT ALL, except from their property?

It's not exactly "their property" I just have to drive over the sidewalk in
front of their house to get to the dropped kerb.
Sidewalks and everything "off them" belong to the local council, but because
the dropped kerb is mostly in front of their house, they can block it if
they want to, even it it means I cannot get out. Apparently.


Could you perhaps "drop" the kerb in front of your property, as well?

Yes, it looks like that's the way I will have to go.

(Perhaps a friend with a pickax and shovel, if cash is tight and your
local government won't do it.)

I have to have planning permission (I checked) and an approved contractor
:-( It will cost *so* much.

On Wednesday I asked them once again and I had to hop with my bad foot
around to their house to ask. They went crazy. They shouted at me and
I had to tell them not to do so. It seems that they think they can block
it as much as they want, I said but I can't get my car out if you do and
they said that's too bad for you isn't it? I said I've been here 25
years and never had a problem with it with my previous neighbours and
they said "we arent your previous neighbours, are we?"
They have to get my permission to build a wall they want and to take down
two trees that they cannot get to except if they do it on my land.
Strangely enough, I am going to say no.
Tweed

Can't imagine why you'd refuse! ;-)

ah, they've never seen me yet when I get truly annoyed..

Tweed

"Yowie" wrote in message
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In ,
Christina Websell typed:
Strictly speaking they have the dropped kerb in front of their
property that allows me to get my car out.
They continually block it and get annoyed if I ask them to move their
car so I can get mine out.
On Wednesday I asked them once again and I had to hop with my bad foot
around to their house to ask. They went crazy. They shouted at me
and I had to tell them not to do so. It seems that they think they
can block it as much as they want, I said but I can't get my car out
if you do and they said that's too bad for you isn't it? I said I've
been here 25 years and never had a problem with it with my previous
neighbours and they said "we arent your previous neighbours, are we?"
They have to get my permission to build a wall they want and to take
down two trees that they cannot get to except if they do it on my
land. Strangely enough, I am going to say no.

We have things here that you can put over your curb so as to be able to
drive up and down without needing hte curb to be remodelled and allowing
the water to run down the gutter. The're metal plates and kinda look like
this:
_
/

Yebbut, when my brother left my car on the road yesterday outside my house
so he/I thought I could get out they carefully positioned two of their cars
so closely each side of mine that it was *really*difficult for me to get my
car out.


They'd be cheaper than having hte curb re-done.

BTW, I am no expert on law, but if you've been using their curb to get yor
car out for years andyears, then you may well have a 'common law' right of
access over their property and they have no legal right ot block it.

Apparently not.
They are impossible to reason with, so it looks like I'll have to use my
savings to get my own dropped kerb installed, it's just such loadsa money
from my savings I am living on atm that I'd hoped not to have to.
As far as I know I've not done anything to upset them since they moved in
during the summer to make them take this stance with me.
Karma will get them eventually ;-)

Tweed

There is no danger to Boyfriend, Lee, so don't worry about that.

"Storrmmee" wrote in message
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i hadn't thought about the possible danger to boyfriend, which is now a
major concern, after boyfriend, tweeds safety is next then the money needed
to fix the situation, i have for the most part decent next doors and except
for the forgetfulness of the one guy i am pretty lucky, Lee
"Yowie" wrote in message
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In ,
Christina Websell typed:
Strictly speaking they have the dropped kerb in front of their
property that allows me to get my car out.
They continually block it and get annoyed if I ask them to move their
car so I can get mine out.
On Wednesday I asked them once again and I had to hop with my bad foot
around to their house to ask. They went crazy. They shouted at me
and I had to tell them not to do so. It seems that they think they
can block it as much as they want, I said but I can't get my car out
if you do and they said that's too bad for you isn't it? I said I've
been here 25 years and never had a problem with it with my previous
neighbours and they said "we arent your previous neighbours, are we?"
They have to get my permission to build a wall they want and to take
down two trees that they cannot get to except if they do it on my
land. Strangely enough, I am going to say no.

We have things here that you can put over your curb so as to be able to
drive up and down without needing hte curb to be remodelled and allowing
the water to run down the gutter. The're metal plates and kinda look like
this:
_
/

They'd be cheaper than having hte curb re-done.

BTW, I am no expert on law, but if you've been using their curb to get
yor car out for years andyears, then you may well have a 'common law'
right of access over their property and they have no legal right ot block
it.

either way, I hope the situation resolves quickly, with the least expense
possible.

Yowie

"Joy" wrote in message
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I wanted to stay out of this. I think the neighbors are jerks at best.
However, if she refuses, especially with the attitude she seems to be
projecting, they'll go out of their way to block her access to the driveway
forever.


They can't if I have my own dropped kerb put in. If they block it then, and
refuse to move I can get the police to force them to move their car. First
time they will ask, second time they will be fined and every subsequent time
after that.
Tweed

On 12/19/2011 11:25 AM, Christina Websell wrote:
et wrote in message
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Christina Websell wrote:
Strictly speaking they have the dropped kerb in front of their property
that allows me to get my car out.
They continually block it and get annoyed if I ask them to move their car
so I can get mine out.

Don't you have access to the street AT ALL, except from their property?

It's not exactly "their property" I just have to drive over the sidewalk in
front of their house to get to the dropped kerb.
Sidewalks and everything "off them" belong to the local council, but because
the dropped kerb is mostly in front of their house, they can block it if
they want to, even it it means I cannot get out. Apparently.


Could you perhaps "drop" the kerb in front of your property, as well?

Yes, it looks like that's the way I will have to go.

(Perhaps a friend with a pickax and shovel, if cash is tight and your
local government won't do it.)

I have to have planning permission (I checked) and an approved contractor
:-( It will cost *so* much.

On Wednesday I asked them once again and I had to hop with my bad foot
around to their house to ask. They went crazy. They shouted at me and
I had to tell them not to do so. It seems that they think they can block
it as much as they want, I said but I can't get my car out if you do and
they said that's too bad for you isn't it? I said I've been here 25
years and never had a problem with it with my previous neighbours and
they said "we arent your previous neighbours, are we?"
They have to get my permission to build a wall they want and to take down
two trees that they cannot get to except if they do it on my land.
Strangely enough, I am going to say no.
Tweed

Can't imagine why you'd refuse! ;-)

ah, they've never seen me yet when I get truly annoyed..

Tweed



I'm curious to know how long they have owned the property (if they do).
Did you ever have trouble like that before they moved in?

"jmcquown" wrote in message
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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Strictly speaking they have the dropped kerb in front of their property
that allows me to get my car out.
They continually block it and get annoyed if I ask them to move their car
so I can get mine out.
On Wednesday I asked them once again and I had to hop with my bad foot
around to their house to ask. They went crazy. They shouted at me and
I had to tell them not to do so. It seems that they think they can block
it as much as they want, I said but I can't get my car out if you do and
they said that's too bad for you isn't it? I said I've been here 25
years and never had a problem with it with my previous neighbours and
they said "we arent your previous neighbours, are we?"
They have to get my permission to build a wall they want and to take down
two trees that they cannot get to except if they do it on my land.
Strangely enough, I am going to say no.
Tweed

There is nothing worse than rude neighbors. Especially since you can't
really get away from them. You have my sympathy.

Jill

It gets even worse. When I was finally allowed to use my foot to go down my
garden today (the hospital made me promise not to walk on uneven ground
until 2 weeks after my plaster was off) I discovered that they have built a
wall at the end of their property (their garden is only maybe 20th as long
as mine) that has come over on to my land by about 2 feet.
This is going to be fun, isn't it? :-(

What did I ever do to deserve such neighbours?
I think that they think that because I am a woman living on my own they can
take advantage of me. They think wrongly I can assure them.
I'm now going to have to get a chartered surveyor in to measure out my
ground from my deeds which is going to cost such a lot. Hundreds of pounds.
sigh
If my new neighbours think they can take advantage of me, they have another
think coming.
It's just so sad isn't it? I got on brilliantly with my previous
neighbours.
Tweed

"MatSav" wrote in message
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"Christina Websell" wrote in message
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Hahaha. No trees will be taken and no wall will be put up.
My neighbour over the road has called her house "Poplar View" so imagine
the difficulty of this if the poplar trees are taken down. It cannot be
done unless it's done from my side and I will say no.

Indeed. You can ask the local planning authority to put a tree
preservation order (TPO) on the trees, if they are of particular
importance, or if you are in a Conservation Area.

I suspect that having a house named 'Poplar View' nearby means that they
are "of value to amenity". See
http://www.communities.gov.uk/docume.../tposguide.pdf
for more information, especially Section 3.1 and 3.2

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I will have a look, but I don't think you can put TPO's on poplars and they
don't belong to me anyway.
Wouldn't it be great if I could?
Doesn't really matter as there is no way they will be able to get access to
take them down.
I don't mind the leaves they shed on my lawn, they are brilliant for hiding
insects that the blackbirds rake up to feed themselves in the autumn.
Pity my neighbours will have to continue to sweep them up from their paving,
isn't it?

Tweed