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Old September 13th 03, 04:12 PM
Liz
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"Animal feeding trials using AAFCO procedures substantiate that Science
Diet Adult Feline Maintenance provides complete and balances nutrition for
maintenance of adult cats"


Is that the same AAFCO that never required arachidonic acid to be
added in feline diets? The one that is run mostly by representatives
from the pet food industry?
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Old September 13th 03, 04:16 PM
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You're reading this completely wrong and inserting your biases into it. If at
least 6 of the 8 dogs must finish the test....that doesn't mean that 2 of the
dogs have to die. They must simply FINISH the test. Why do you assume the
worst?


You definitively have a comprehension problem.
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Old September 13th 03, 04:16 PM
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You're reading this completely wrong and inserting your biases into it. If at
least 6 of the 8 dogs must finish the test....that doesn't mean that 2 of the
dogs have to die. They must simply FINISH the test. Why do you assume the
worst?


You definitively have a comprehension problem.
  #34  
Old September 13th 03, 04:16 PM
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You're reading this completely wrong and inserting your biases into it. If at
least 6 of the 8 dogs must finish the test....that doesn't mean that 2 of the
dogs have to die. They must simply FINISH the test. Why do you assume the
worst?


You definitively have a comprehension problem.
  #35  
Old September 13th 03, 05:18 PM
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rrb_041303 wrote:

Your vet would be a good place to start.


Yeah, but he seems to be lacking in the nutritional side of things - we've
been on IAMS, Science Diet, and Purina ONE and he's pretty said "Whatever
works, they're all OK". So even though we trust him for pretty much
regular vet stuff, we're not trusting him with nutritional advice.

A low magnesium food and alot
of water consumption is a starting point. I know that my local Petsmart
sells prescription foods. They are in a separate area away from the rest
of the food. You will have to look for it in the store. I don't know
what the requirements are to purchase it but it is probably worth
looking into.


Hmmm, didn't know that about Petsmart, but we'll poke around. Thanks.

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Old September 13th 03, 05:18 PM
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rrb_041303 wrote:

Your vet would be a good place to start.


Yeah, but he seems to be lacking in the nutritional side of things - we've
been on IAMS, Science Diet, and Purina ONE and he's pretty said "Whatever
works, they're all OK". So even though we trust him for pretty much
regular vet stuff, we're not trusting him with nutritional advice.

A low magnesium food and alot
of water consumption is a starting point. I know that my local Petsmart
sells prescription foods. They are in a separate area away from the rest
of the food. You will have to look for it in the store. I don't know
what the requirements are to purchase it but it is probably worth
looking into.


Hmmm, didn't know that about Petsmart, but we'll poke around. Thanks.

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Old September 13th 03, 05:18 PM
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rrb_041303 wrote:

Your vet would be a good place to start.


Yeah, but he seems to be lacking in the nutritional side of things - we've
been on IAMS, Science Diet, and Purina ONE and he's pretty said "Whatever
works, they're all OK". So even though we trust him for pretty much
regular vet stuff, we're not trusting him with nutritional advice.

A low magnesium food and alot
of water consumption is a starting point. I know that my local Petsmart
sells prescription foods. They are in a separate area away from the rest
of the food. You will have to look for it in the store. I don't know
what the requirements are to purchase it but it is probably worth
looking into.


Hmmm, didn't know that about Petsmart, but we'll poke around. Thanks.

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Old September 13th 03, 05:22 PM
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Phil P. wrote:

Just be sure you consult your vet before following any medical advice you
obtain on the internet. These newsgroups should not be used as a
replacement for professional veterinary care.


Nope, never plan to do that - I use the net as a supplement to
professional advice, not as a replacement.

Also be wary of extremists and fanatics with agendas.


As I've seen. :-)

[good info snipped]


Yep, this was pretty much what I read that convinced me to try the switch.

I wholeheartedly recommend a high quality canned food that's compounded from
a fixed formula, such as Science Diet. "Fixed formula" means that the
proportion and quality of the ingredients don't fluctuate with the market
prices of the ingredients. So there's little, if any, variation in the food
from batch to batch


We were probably going to go w/Science Diet or something similar, but I
didn't know that about "fixed formula" - I'll be sure to watch for it.

One last suggestion. You might want to speak to your vet about a
glycosaminoglycan (GAG) supplement (glucosamine/chondroitin). A possible
cause of IC may be a defect in the GAG layer that coats the bladder
epithelium. A defect in the GAG layer might allow urine to penetrate the
urothelium and induce inflammation. Some of the same substances present in
cartilage.are also present in the GAG layer that lines the bladder wall. So
a GAG supplement may strengthen and maintain the integrity of the GAG layer
of the bladder wall.


We'll definitely talk to him about it - thanks very much for the
suggestion and info!

brian
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Old September 13th 03, 05:22 PM
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Phil P. wrote:

Just be sure you consult your vet before following any medical advice you
obtain on the internet. These newsgroups should not be used as a
replacement for professional veterinary care.


Nope, never plan to do that - I use the net as a supplement to
professional advice, not as a replacement.

Also be wary of extremists and fanatics with agendas.


As I've seen. :-)

[good info snipped]


Yep, this was pretty much what I read that convinced me to try the switch.

I wholeheartedly recommend a high quality canned food that's compounded from
a fixed formula, such as Science Diet. "Fixed formula" means that the
proportion and quality of the ingredients don't fluctuate with the market
prices of the ingredients. So there's little, if any, variation in the food
from batch to batch


We were probably going to go w/Science Diet or something similar, but I
didn't know that about "fixed formula" - I'll be sure to watch for it.

One last suggestion. You might want to speak to your vet about a
glycosaminoglycan (GAG) supplement (glucosamine/chondroitin). A possible
cause of IC may be a defect in the GAG layer that coats the bladder
epithelium. A defect in the GAG layer might allow urine to penetrate the
urothelium and induce inflammation. Some of the same substances present in
cartilage.are also present in the GAG layer that lines the bladder wall. So
a GAG supplement may strengthen and maintain the integrity of the GAG layer
of the bladder wall.


We'll definitely talk to him about it - thanks very much for the
suggestion and info!

brian
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Old September 13th 03, 05:22 PM
Brian or Sharon Beuchaw
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Phil P. wrote:

Just be sure you consult your vet before following any medical advice you
obtain on the internet. These newsgroups should not be used as a
replacement for professional veterinary care.


Nope, never plan to do that - I use the net as a supplement to
professional advice, not as a replacement.

Also be wary of extremists and fanatics with agendas.


As I've seen. :-)

[good info snipped]


Yep, this was pretty much what I read that convinced me to try the switch.

I wholeheartedly recommend a high quality canned food that's compounded from
a fixed formula, such as Science Diet. "Fixed formula" means that the
proportion and quality of the ingredients don't fluctuate with the market
prices of the ingredients. So there's little, if any, variation in the food
from batch to batch


We were probably going to go w/Science Diet or something similar, but I
didn't know that about "fixed formula" - I'll be sure to watch for it.

One last suggestion. You might want to speak to your vet about a
glycosaminoglycan (GAG) supplement (glucosamine/chondroitin). A possible
cause of IC may be a defect in the GAG layer that coats the bladder
epithelium. A defect in the GAG layer might allow urine to penetrate the
urothelium and induce inflammation. Some of the same substances present in
cartilage.are also present in the GAG layer that lines the bladder wall. So
a GAG supplement may strengthen and maintain the integrity of the GAG layer
of the bladder wall.


We'll definitely talk to him about it - thanks very much for the
suggestion and info!

brian
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