OT - How Old Am I Game

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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:

Some dairies that cater to the health-food industry DO bottle raw milk
(which is much more strictly regulated than the pasteurized variety).
It supposedly contains various good-for-you elements that pasteurization
removes (also doesn't sour as fast) but the larger commercial dairies
are always suing them claiming their product contains various kinds of
food-poisons. I've no objection to "raw" milk, but it's more expensive
than the standard kind and no one but health food stores carry it.

Why do big commercial dairies sue the ones that sell raw milk? How
are they (the big dairies) hurt by that? If anything, I would expect
pasteurized milk to sell much better after a few well-publicized food
poisonings from raw milk.

Joyce

Why? Because a lot of medical professionals recommend raw milk to their
patients, the "well publicized" cases most generally prove fictitious,
and the big dairies don't care for the competition. ("Pasteurized" milk
isn't all that great,either - not once you watch employees at their
treatment plants watering vats of the stuff with hoses, to replace the
liquid the pasteurization process removes!)

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:



wrote:
"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" wrote:

Some dairies that cater to the health-food industry DO bottle raw milk
(which is much more strictly regulated than the pasteurized variety).
It supposedly contains various good-for-you elements that pasteurization
removes (also doesn't sour as fast) but the larger commercial dairies
are always suing them claiming their product contains various kinds of
food-poisons. I've no objection to "raw" milk, but it's more expensive
than the standard kind and no one but health food stores carry it.

Why do big commercial dairies sue the ones that sell raw milk? How
are they (the big dairies) hurt by that? If anything, I would expect
pasteurized milk to sell much better after a few well-publicized food
poisonings from raw milk.

Joyce

Why? Because a lot of medical professionals recommend raw milk to their
patients, the "well publicized" cases most generally prove fictitious,
and the big dairies don't care for the competition. ("Pasteurized" milk
isn't all that great,either - not once you watch employees at their
treatment plants watering vats of the stuff with hoses, to replace the
liquid the pasteurization process removes!)

Do you mean that the water boils off so they have to add it back in?
That's pretty unfortunate, but I don't think I'd find that too off-putting.

I'm just too paranoid to drink raw milk. I understand the arguments in
favor of it and I don't disagree with them, but emotionally I just can't
get past the worry about unfriendly bacteria.

By the way, how well does raw milk do as a source for homemade yogurt?
I make yogurt all the time, but have never used raw milk. Of course,
part of the process in making yogurt is heating the milk so that it's
hot enough to kill off any bacteria living in it. I suppose that's not
too different from pasteurization, if less extreme.

Joyce

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Lesley Madigan typed:
On Aug 2, 1:53 am, CatNipped wrote:
There was a thick layer of cream at the top of each
bottle (my mother would pour most of that off to use in her coffee
and chicory). You had to shake the bottle to mix it up.

we had silver and gold topped bottles- the gold ones contained milk
from Jersey cows and the cream at the top was the cause of regular
fights between me and my brothers as we all wanted it for our cereal!

Regular fights for the cream on top too - but we just wanted to drink it,
neat. My sister and I used to get in trouble for opening a new bottle before
the old one was finished - mainly because we wanted the cream off the top
and knew that the other one would mostly likely get it (to the howls of 'its
not faaaaaiiiiirrrr!') if we ourselves used the last of the old bottle. What
we didn't know at the time, and our mother has only recently admitted, was
that she too used to crack a new bottle just for the cream before the old
one was empty! LOL

Yowie

On Aug 23, 7:09*pm, "Yowie" wrote:
,
Lesley Madigan typed:

On Aug 2, 1:53 am, CatNipped wrote:
There was a thick layer of cream at the top of each
bottle (my mother would pour most of that off to use in her coffee
and chicory). You had to shake the bottle to mix it up.

we had silver and gold topped bottles- the gold ones contained milk
from Jersey cows and the cream at the top was the cause of regular
fights between me and my brothers as we all wanted it for our cereal!

Regular fights for the cream on top too - but we just wanted to drink it,
neat. My sister and I used to get in trouble for opening a new bottle before
the old one was finished - mainly because we wanted the cream off the top
and knew that the other one would mostly likely get it (to the howls of 'its
not faaaaaiiiiirrrr!') if we ourselves used the last of the old bottle. What
we didn't know at the time, and our mother has only recently admitted, was
that she too used to crack a new bottle just for the cream before the old
one was empty! LOL

Yowie

I remember white margarine in a clear plastic (?) bag and an enclosed
orange capsule that you broke inside the bag and then kneaded and
squeezed the oleo until it was evenly colored.
Norma

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On Aug 23, 7:09 pm, "Yowie" wrote:
,
Lesley Madigan typed:

On Aug 2, 1:53 am, CatNipped wrote:
There was a thick layer of cream at the top of each
bottle (my mother would pour most of that off to use in her coffee
and chicory). You had to shake the bottle to mix it up.

we had silver and gold topped bottles- the gold ones contained milk
from Jersey cows and the cream at the top was the cause of regular
fights between me and my brothers as we all wanted it for our cereal!

Regular fights for the cream on top too - but we just wanted to drink it,
neat. My sister and I used to get in trouble for opening a new bottle
before
the old one was finished - mainly because we wanted the cream off the top
and knew that the other one would mostly likely get it (to the howls of
'its
not faaaaaiiiiirrrr!') if we ourselves used the last of the old bottle.
What
we didn't know at the time, and our mother has only recently admitted, was
that she too used to crack a new bottle just for the cream before the old
one was empty! LOL

Yowie

I remember white margarine in a clear plastic (?) bag and an enclosed
orange capsule that you broke inside the bag and then kneaded and
squeezed the oleo until it was evenly colored.
Norma

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Oh, yes! I remember that, too. My brother and I used to beg for the chance
to do the squeezing.

Joy