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Religious door to door callers are dense....
There's an 87-year-old woman living across the street from me who seems to
think that the world turns on being able to eventually get me to attend her church. She calls at least weekly on the phone and invariably gets around to her real reason for calling. I have told her at least a dozen times that I am simply not interested but it doesn't sink in. I don't want to alienate her as a neighbor, I enjoy talking with her when she's not going on about the bible, but she gets mightily offended when I don't go along with what she says. Last time she did it, I borrowed the refrigerator-sized diamond analogy from Sam Harris and the Orbiting China Teapot idea from Bertrand Russell. I tried to be gentle and hope it worked but I might need to tell her that I believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster.... |
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Religious door to door callers are dense....
Sherry wrote:
On Feb 19, 12:00?pm, "jmcquown" wrote: Helen Miles wrote: This is a minor rant, so bear with me... JW's are quite possibly THE most annoying people on the planet. I have a BIG sign on my front door that says "No salespeople, NO religious callers, NO political canvasing. Official callers must have ID." To me, that is perfectly clear. I don't like to be disturbed by people I am not expecting as it disrupts the cats and it invades my privacy. JW's just don't get the hint though. Apparently they are immune to signs telling them to get lost. (snippage) Helen M (who is very relieved that Miss Lily Whiskers is fine) I'm relieved Miss Lily Whiskers is fine, too! I haven't seen any JW's for a while but from time to time the Baptists come to call. And they don't like to take "no" for an answer, either. But I recall one funny experience almost 10 years ago, shortly after I moved to this apartment. A father and son knocked on my door and started their spiel about why I should attend *their* Baptist church. When I could get a word in edgewise I said, "Just one problem, I'm not a BAPTIST!" I swear they were practically signals to ward off the evil eye as they backed away. They probably marked my apartment somehow, like the hobos used to do, warning everyone else away. I've not been bugged by door-to-door religious nuts since then. IME, Baptists will call (other denominations too)...when someone first moves to invite them to their church. I don't think it had anything to do with "evil eye". Usually they don't come back unless you've expressed interest in their church. Sherry It was just funny the way they literally backed up away from my door when I proclaimed I'm not a Baptist, like I'd said something very evil and they were likely to be whisked promptly to hell if they stood close to me a moment longer. I don't think religion should be a door to door thing. It's a highly personal subject and to do so is very intrusive. I worked with a woman who would send out bible scriptures via email to all sorts of people in the company. This included email to a highly religious Jewish man who wore a yarmulke every day. Trust me, he didn't welcome getting emails about Jesus. There was another woman who would constantly engage another member of the department, who was a Muslim, in debates about the contents of the bible vs. the koran. Totally inappropriate; it was not her job to try to "convert" this guy. The department supervisor finally had to go to Human Resources and have them spell out a policy about not sending emails or debating religious matters in the work place. It's too controversial and doesn't belong at the office (or at my front door). Jill |
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Religious door to door callers are dense....
On Tue, 20 Feb 2007 04:48:30 -0500, jmcquown wrote:
It's too controversial and doesn't belong at the office (or at my front door). Or in a newsgroup dedicated to cat anecdotes. :-) -- Joey DoWop Dee Remember: It is To Laugh |
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Religious door to door callers are dense....
On Feb 20, 3:48�am, "jmcquown" wrote:
Sherry wrote: It was just funny the way they literally backed up away from my door when I proclaimed I'm not a Baptist, like I'd said something very evil and they were likely to be whisked promptly to hell if they stood close to me a moment longer. I don't think religion should be a door to door thing. *It's a highly personal subject and to do so is very intrusive. I agree with the last line for sure. Then I thought, I support overseas missions wholeheartedly. What a hypocrite I am. Sherry |
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Religious door to door callers are dense....
"Sherry" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 20, 3:48?am, "jmcquown" wrote: Sherry wrote: It was just funny the way they literally backed up away from my door when I proclaimed I'm not a Baptist, like I'd said something very evil and they were likely to be whisked promptly to hell if they stood close to me a moment longer. I don't think religion should be a door to door thing. It's a highly personal subject and to do so is very intrusive. I agree with the last line for sure. Then I thought, I support overseas missions wholeheartedly. What a hypocrite I am. I had to rethink my attitude toward missions years ago when one of Charlie's cousins went overseas as a missionary - to Germany. Jo |
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Religious door to door callers are dense....
On Feb 20, 11:22?am, "Jo Firey" wrote:
"Sherry" wrote in message oups.com... On Feb 20, 3:48?am, "jmcquown" wrote: Sherry wrote: It was just funny the way they literally backed up away from my door when I proclaimed I'm not a Baptist, like I'd said something very evil and they were likely to be whisked promptly to hell if they stood close to me a moment longer. I don't think religion should be a door to door thing. It's a highly personal subject and to do so is very intrusive. I agree with the last line for sure. Then I thought, I support overseas missions wholeheartedly. What a hypocrite I am. I had to rethink my attitude toward missions years ago when one of Charlie's cousins went overseas as a missionary - to Germany. Jo Well, that's irony for you. Germany is probably more civilized than we are. Sherry |
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Religious door to door callers are dense....
Sherry wrote:
On Feb 20, 3:48?am, "jmcquown" wrote: I don't think religion should be a door to door thing. It's a highly personal subject and to do so is very intrusive. I agree with the last line for sure. Then I thought, I support overseas missions wholeheartedly. What a hypocrite I am. I don't understand missionaries, myself. What was wrong with the religions the people were already practicing? Why do they need to be converted? Were they asking to be converted? I personally don't understand the whole proselytizing thing. I come from a tradition where not only do they not proselytize, but in fact, you have to *convince* a member of the clergy that you really do want to convert. That always seemed a bit extreme on the opposite end - my belief is that people should be able to choose whatever spiritual practice works for them. They shouldn't have it forced on them (as adults - raising one's children in a faith is something different IMO), and they shouldn't have to jump through hoops to prove they're worthy to join the club, either. I'm sure by saying this I've oversimplified a few things. But since faith is such a personal matter, why do we need to control what other people believe? Joyce |
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Religious door to door callers are dense....
Sherry wrote: On Feb 19, 12:00�pm, "jmcquown" wrote: Helen Miles wrote: This is a minor rant, so bear with me... JW's are quite possibly THE most annoying people on the planet. I have a BIG sign on my front door that says "No salespeople, NO religious callers, NO political canvasing. Official callers must have ID." To me, that is perfectly clear. I don't like to be disturbed by people I am not expecting as it disrupts the cats and it invades my privacy. JW's just don't get the hint though. Apparently they are immune to signs telling them to get lost. (snippage) Helen M (who is very relieved that Miss Lily Whiskers is fine) I'm relieved Miss Lily Whiskers is fine, too! �I haven't seen any JW's for a while but from time to time the Baptists come to call. �And they don't like to take "no" for an answer, either. �But I recall one funny experience almost 10 years ago, shortly after I moved to this apartment. �A father and son knocked on my door and started their spiel about why I should attend *their* Baptist church. �When I could get a word in edgewise I said, "Just one problem, I'm not a BAPTIST!" I swear they were practically signals to ward off the evil eye as they backed away. �They probably marked my apartment somehow, like the hobos used to do, warning everyone else away. I've not been bugged by door-to-door religious nuts since then. IME, Baptists will call (other denominations too)...when someone first moves to invite them to their church. I don't think it had anything to do with "evil eye". Usually they don't come back unless you've expressed interest in their church. I think that practice may be more common in smaller communities - I never encountered it anywhere I lived in Los Angeles, nor in the area of Phoenix where I live now. Actually, it's rather a nice gesture, if they're content to simply let you know they have a church in your neighborhood, and invite your attendance - makes you feel someone at least noticed you're alive. (Being a new resident in a strange city can be rather lonely, at times.) |
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Religious door to door callers are dense....
Christina Websell wrote: "Jack Campin - bogus address" wrote in message ... (You may be confusing them with the Mormons, who are a bunch of fascist psycho thugs). I have to take issue with this opinion. A lot of my family are Mormons, although I am not myself. A nicer bunch of people you couldn't meet. Tweed You realize you responded to some idiot troll, don't you? However we may feel about door-to-door proselytizing, most of us appreciate the "family values" most Mormons profess. (They may not approve of homosexuality, but they certainly don't engage in hatemongering - about that or anything else!) ============== j-c ====== @ ====== purr . demon . co . uk ============== Jack Campin: 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland | tel 0131 660 4760 http://www.purr.demon.co.uk/jack/ for CD-ROMs and free | fax 0870 0554 975 stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, & Mac logic fonts | mob 07800 739 557 |
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Religious door to door callers are dense....
Pat wrote: There's an 87-year-old woman living across the street from me who seems to think that the world turns on being able to eventually get me to attend her church. She calls at least weekly on the phone and invariably gets around to her real reason for calling. I have told her at least a dozen times that I am simply not interested but it doesn't sink in. I don't want to alienate her as a neighbor, I enjoy talking with her when she's not going on about the bible, but she gets mightily offended when I don't go along with what she says. Last time she did it, I borrowed the refrigerator-sized diamond analogy from Sam Harris and the Orbiting China Teapot idea from Bertrand Russell. I tried to be gentle and hope it worked but I might need to tell her that I believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster.... I have a friend who every once in a while e-mails me some of her "born again Christian" literature with instructions to pass it on. My invariable responses telling her I respect her right to believe what she chooses, and wish she would return the compliment, don't seem to have much effect. In every other way, she's a good friend of many years' standing, but I DO wish she'd keep her religious views to herself! |
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