wobble belly?

I have a 4 year old male cat named Maus. He's a fairly large (in build, not
weight) cat, but he's always had a kind of wobbly pooch on his belly. It's
not a tumor or anything, just lose skin according to the vet. Is there any
way to get rid of it or make it smaller?

On a side note, I used to have a number of other cats and for some reason,
most of them had "wobbles" as well.

It's pretty normal. Not much you can do.

Karen

"[ medic ]" wrote in message
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I have a 4 year old male cat named Maus. He's a fairly large (in build,
not
weight) cat, but he's always had a kind of wobbly pooch on his belly. It's
not a tumor or anything, just lose skin according to the vet. Is there any
way to get rid of it or make it smaller?

On a side note, I used to have a number of other cats and for some reason,
most of them had "wobbles" as well.

It's pretty normal. Not much you can do.

Karen

"[ medic ]" wrote in message
nk.net...
I have a 4 year old male cat named Maus. He's a fairly large (in build,
not
weight) cat, but he's always had a kind of wobbly pooch on his belly. It's
not a tumor or anything, just lose skin according to the vet. Is there any
way to get rid of it or make it smaller?

On a side note, I used to have a number of other cats and for some reason,
most of them had "wobbles" as well.

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enlightened us with...
I have a 4 year old male cat named Maus. He's a fairly large (in build, not
weight) cat, but he's always had a kind of wobbly pooch on his belly. It's
not a tumor or anything, just lose skin according to the vet. Is there any
way to get rid of it or make it smaller?

On a side note, I used to have a number of other cats and for some reason,
most of them had "wobbles" as well.




All my indoor cats have had that, even the ones that weren't fat.
The one with the least amount of it is my most active girl, so I guess
maybe exercise helps.

I have yet to see one of the barn cats with a flabby belly.
Whether it's the diet rich in mice, the outdoor air, or the exercise, I
dunno.


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In article et,
enlightened us with...
I have a 4 year old male cat named Maus. He's a fairly large (in build, not
weight) cat, but he's always had a kind of wobbly pooch on his belly. It's
not a tumor or anything, just lose skin according to the vet. Is there any
way to get rid of it or make it smaller?

On a side note, I used to have a number of other cats and for some reason,
most of them had "wobbles" as well.




All my indoor cats have had that, even the ones that weren't fat.
The one with the least amount of it is my most active girl, so I guess
maybe exercise helps.

I have yet to see one of the barn cats with a flabby belly.
Whether it's the diet rich in mice, the outdoor air, or the exercise, I
dunno.


--
--
~kaeli~
If you don't pay your exorcist, you get repossessed.
http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart
http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace

"[ medic ]" wrote in message
nk.net...
I have a 4 year old male cat named Maus. He's a fairly large (in build,
not
weight) cat, but he's always had a kind of wobbly pooch on his belly. It's
not a tumor or anything, just lose skin according to the vet. Is there any
way to get rid of it or make it smaller?

On a side note, I used to have a number of other cats and for some reason,
most of them had "wobbles" as well.


Orchid has just answered this question in Alt.cats so am copying his/her
reply he

"It's called a primordial pouch, or sometimes, a 'spay sway'.
Primordial pouches exist to give the cats extra protection in
that area (cat fights involve a lot of savage kicking with the hind
legs at about that area) and to allow a longer leg extension when
jumping. A primordial pouch is just a flap of empty extra skin
between the hind leg and the torso.
'Spay sways' come from the weight that altered cats put on
because their metabolisms slow down. Add that slowdown to the
American tendancy to overfeed our pets, and you get a primordial pouch
that is filled with fat that shouldn't be there, aka a 'spay sway'.

Felis lybica (the African Wildcat) is actually quite different
from the big cats, predation-wise. Big cats are desgined to gorge and
fast -- they make one big kill maybe once or twice a week. Little
cats, like F. Lybica, are designed to kill many small things
throughout the day, eating every day at least, more often twice or
three times. This is why domestic cats are susceptible to Hepatidic
Lipidosis when they do not eat for two or more days. Their bodies are
deisgned for several small meals a day, not one huge one once a week.
In zoos, big cats are fasted once a week for health reasons --
small cats *never* are.


I would recommend putting him on canned food for urinary tract health,
but rest assured that, if the skin is emtpy, it's a primordial pouch
and supposed to be there.




Orchid
See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid "

"[ medic ]" wrote in message
nk.net...
I have a 4 year old male cat named Maus. He's a fairly large (in build,
not
weight) cat, but he's always had a kind of wobbly pooch on his belly. It's
not a tumor or anything, just lose skin according to the vet. Is there any
way to get rid of it or make it smaller?

On a side note, I used to have a number of other cats and for some reason,
most of them had "wobbles" as well.


Orchid has just answered this question in Alt.cats so am copying his/her
reply he

"It's called a primordial pouch, or sometimes, a 'spay sway'.
Primordial pouches exist to give the cats extra protection in
that area (cat fights involve a lot of savage kicking with the hind
legs at about that area) and to allow a longer leg extension when
jumping. A primordial pouch is just a flap of empty extra skin
between the hind leg and the torso.
'Spay sways' come from the weight that altered cats put on
because their metabolisms slow down. Add that slowdown to the
American tendancy to overfeed our pets, and you get a primordial pouch
that is filled with fat that shouldn't be there, aka a 'spay sway'.

Felis lybica (the African Wildcat) is actually quite different
from the big cats, predation-wise. Big cats are desgined to gorge and
fast -- they make one big kill maybe once or twice a week. Little
cats, like F. Lybica, are designed to kill many small things
throughout the day, eating every day at least, more often twice or
three times. This is why domestic cats are susceptible to Hepatidic
Lipidosis when they do not eat for two or more days. Their bodies are
deisgned for several small meals a day, not one huge one once a week.
In zoos, big cats are fasted once a week for health reasons --
small cats *never* are.


I would recommend putting him on canned food for urinary tract health,
but rest assured that, if the skin is emtpy, it's a primordial pouch
and supposed to be there.




Orchid
See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid "

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 19:38:43 GMT, "[ medic ]"
wrote:

I have a 4 year old male cat named Maus. He's a fairly large (in build, not
weight) cat, but he's always had a kind of wobbly pooch on his belly. It's
not a tumor or anything, just lose skin according to the vet. Is there any
way to get rid of it or make it smaller?

On a side note, I used to have a number of other cats and for some reason,
most of them had "wobbles" as well.

*grin* I was going to post, but I see Gee beat me to it.
As an additional note, not all cats have primordial pouches -- many
do, but the gene for it doesn't express in some. My personal guess is
that the closer a cat is to feral ancestry (where the pouch is a very
useful thing to have) the most likely they are to have them. The
exception to that is Bengals and Savannahs, where the infusion of wild
genes is via an ALC or a Serval and where the pouch is a desired trait
(to increase the wild look). Both my Bengal boys have full primordial
pouches with extra skin runnning from under their forelegs back to
their hind. You can see it very clearly when they're stretched out,
but they aren't fat at all.



Orchid
See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 19:38:43 GMT, "[ medic ]"
wrote:

I have a 4 year old male cat named Maus. He's a fairly large (in build, not
weight) cat, but he's always had a kind of wobbly pooch on his belly. It's
not a tumor or anything, just lose skin according to the vet. Is there any
way to get rid of it or make it smaller?

On a side note, I used to have a number of other cats and for some reason,
most of them had "wobbles" as well.

*grin* I was going to post, but I see Gee beat me to it.
As an additional note, not all cats have primordial pouches -- many
do, but the gene for it doesn't express in some. My personal guess is
that the closer a cat is to feral ancestry (where the pouch is a very
useful thing to have) the most likely they are to have them. The
exception to that is Bengals and Savannahs, where the infusion of wild
genes is via an ALC or a Serval and where the pouch is a desired trait
(to increase the wild look). Both my Bengal boys have full primordial
pouches with extra skin runnning from under their forelegs back to
their hind. You can see it very clearly when they're stretched out,
but they aren't fat at all.



Orchid
See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 17:04:26 -0400, Orchid
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 19:38:43 GMT, "[ medic ]"
wrote:

I have a 4 year old male cat named Maus. He's a fairly large (in build, not
weight) cat, but he's always had a kind of wobbly pooch on his belly. It's
not a tumor or anything, just lose skin according to the vet. Is there any
way to get rid of it or make it smaller?

On a side note, I used to have a number of other cats and for some reason,
most of them had "wobbles" as well.

*grin* I was going to post, but I see Gee beat me to it.
As an additional note, not all cats have primordial pouches -- many
do, but the gene for it doesn't express in some. My personal guess is
that the closer a cat is to feral ancestry (where the pouch is a very
useful thing to have) the most likely they are to have them. The
exception to that is Bengals and Savannahs, where the infusion of wild
genes is via an ALC or a Serval and where the pouch is a desired trait
(to increase the wild look). Both my Bengal boys have full primordial
pouches with extra skin runnning from under their forelegs back to
their hind. You can see it very clearly when they're stretched out,
but they aren't fat at all.



Orchid
See Orchid's Kitties! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/bengalpage
Want a Purebred Cat? Read This! -- http://nik.ascendancy.net/orchid

My Siamese (RB16 yr) had this when she first adopted me. It
disappeared after a few years . She became indoor-only -- could that
be the reason it disappeared? MLB